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TSK 05-23-2012 02:01 PM

Re: Del Monte's Secret Agent build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EverettY (Post 3745413)
Would you ever offer dual ESC packages already smushed into a small package and soldered up?

And what is option two?

I think that would limit the end users ability to package the electronics effectively no? Since everyone has different setups/chassis/etc.

I mean some want the esc's & BEC shrinked together, some want the rx and BEC seperated from the esc, some want them all in one block, etc.

And option 2 is what option 1 would be in option 1 wasn't an option:flipoff::lmao:

Chris_The_Battery_Man 05-23-2012 03:32 PM

Re: Del Monte's Secret Agent build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EverettY (Post 3745413)
Would you ever offer dual ESC packages already smushed into a small package and soldered up?

And what is option two?

I know a guy that does that8)

EverettY 05-23-2012 03:33 PM

Re: Del Monte's Secret Agent build
 
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Originally Posted by Chris_The_Battery_Man (Post 3745720)
I know a guy that does that8)

HAHA ya I do to.... My bro can do it pretty well to so He'll do mine for me :)

Del Monte 05-26-2012 12:17 AM

Re: Del Monte's Secret Agent build
 
Here's a quick late-night update

This week, I received some very nice and very beefy 5mm Ti rear axles from Hulksta Engineering. I don't think I will be bending these any time soon, and as an added bonus, they are 2g lighter per side 8)

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/567...0525222218.jpg

I have a bunch of small link and shock changes in the works as well. The AL rear lowers are out, but 1/8" Ti lowers look to be pretty promising so far.

Highlucks 05-26-2012 01:21 AM

Re: Del Monte's Secret Agent build
 
Be careful with the 1/8" Ti links. We tried them as uppers with the original release of the BWD Thing and a couple of the guys had failures pretty quickly

Oz Bruiser 05-26-2012 02:43 AM

Re: Del Monte's Secret Agent build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Del Monte (Post 3749687)
Here's a quick late-night update

This week, I received some very nice and very beefy 5mm Ti rear axles from Hulksta Engineering. I don't think I will be bending these any time soon, and as an added bonus, they are 2g lighter per side 8)

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/567...0525222218.jpg

I have a bunch of small link and shock changes in the works as well. The AL rear lowers are out, but 1/8" Ti lowers look to be pretty promising so far.


Great bit of gear you got there ;-)"thumbsup"

jakesy 05-26-2012 04:31 AM

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Nice axles. I just snapped mine trying to get the wheel nut off:oops::evil:

I would recommend putting some anti seize on the thread prior to installation to avoid heat build up due to friction when loosening and tightening wheel nuts"thumbsup"

so pissed at myself

Hulksta 05-26-2012 05:02 AM

Re: Del Monte's Secret Agent build
 
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Originally Posted by jakesy (Post 3749746)
Nice axles. I just snapped mine trying to get the wheel nut off:oops::evil:

I would recommend putting some anti seize on the thread prior to installation to avoid heat build up due to friction when loosening and tightening wheel nuts"thumbsup"

so pissed at myself

Thats a first! Im PM ya"thumbsup"

Harvo 05-26-2012 05:19 AM

Re: Del Monte's Secret Agent build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Del Monte (Post 3749687)
Here's a quick late-night update

I have a bunch of small link and shock changes in the works as well. The AL rear lowers are out, but 1/8" Ti lowers look to be pretty promising so far.


I use 1/8 Ti for my uppers, and my rear uppers are pretty long compared to most people. At 150mm I get some flex, so I would imagine anything near that length on a lower would have issues.

But it's relatively cheap so give it a try. "thumbsup"

Del Monte 05-26-2012 08:16 AM

Re: Del Monte's Secret Agent build
 
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Originally Posted by Harvo (Post 3749752)
I use 1/8 Ti for my uppers, and my rear uppers are pretty long compared to most people. At 150mm I get some flex, so I would imagine anything near that length on a lower would have issues.

But it's relatively cheap so give it a try. "thumbsup"

What grade of Ti are you using? I have Grade 2, and Grade 5(6AL-4V) here, and the Grade 5 stuff feels springy when flexing it my hands, but it isn't noticeable on the rig. I will have to try binding it up pretty hard today and see what happens.

Also, for comparison's sake, a length of 1/8" Grade 5 Ti and an equal length of 3/16" 7075 .049 wall tubing weigh virtually the same on my cheap scale. The 7075 is stiffer, but it cannot be bent into a high clearance link.

pastrana#199 05-26-2012 10:32 AM

Re: Del Monte's Secret Agent build
 
where are you guys getting your 1/8" ti?

Del Monte 05-27-2012 11:55 PM

Re: Del Monte's Secret Agent build
 
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Originally Posted by pastrana#199 (Post 3749993)
where are you guys getting your 1/8" ti?

Mcmaster Carr "thumbsup"

As expected, I bent one of the Ti lowers in practice on Saturday. Even if it hadn't bent, I did find a few climbs where the truck felt "springy" because of flexy links.

After watching Skaldiddog Joel's rig float over some pretty wicked stuff at my local practice area, and pretty much everything else for the past year, I decided to try out a set of big bores. I had to do some creative mounting to get everything to cycle smoothly on the Agent, but they feel really nice so far. The big bores added 20g to the overall weight, but I should be able to get that down a little lower once I have the correct length Al and Ti hardware in hand.

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/5...0527144503.jpg

http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/3...0527194142.jpg

I made a quick run back to Horsemen's park and put a few packs through the rig this evening. The big bores are slightly shorter eye to eye than my SCX10 shocks, but this seemed to put the ride height right where the agent should be. It completely cancelled out the rear tire lifting on steep off-camber decents, and improved its climbing ability to an even crazier level. Even with my temporary straight rear lowers, the truck would still hop over breakovers nicely.

Between Saturday's practice session, running 560-something gates in a G6 event, hanging out by the fire, and practicing again tonight, I have spent 19 hours at Horsemen's park in the last two days :ror::ror::ror:

gerr 05-28-2012 12:04 AM

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19 hours is insane man. I really enjoyed watching you put the smack down on that night stage of the g6.

53 willys 05-28-2012 12:12 AM

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lathe those big bores down for a 3g drop per shock(12g total) :-)

TSK 05-28-2012 02:18 AM

Re: Del Monte's Secret Agent build
 
Big bores are THE shock for the SA IMO. They just seem so much smoother and really seem to have th ideal overall length & stroke.

What oil dud you start off at? I'm running 22.5 front are rear. The Losi golds are a small tad too stiff, but otherwise he setup seems pretty good.

HARDKNOCKZ 05-28-2012 07:23 AM

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20 GRAMS!?!?!?!? YOU'RE A CRAZY MAN JAKE!!! Thats gonna put your rig at what...3.20lbs??? She's a porker now. For shame Jake Wright...for shame.

gerr 05-28-2012 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by HARDKNOCKZ (Post 3752092)
20 GRAMS!?!?!?!? YOU'RE A CRAZY MAN JAKE!!! Thats gonna put your rig at what...3.20lbs??? She's a porker now. For shame Jake Wright...for shame.

Lol damn that was hilarious

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Chaotic Crawlers 05-28-2012 09:01 AM

Re: Del Monte's Secret Agent build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSCorpionKing (Post 3752015)
Big bores are THE shock for the SA IMO. They just seem so much smoother and really seem to have th ideal overall length & stroke.

What oil dud you start off at? I'm running 22.5 front are rear. The Losi golds are a small tad too stiff, but otherwise he setup seems pretty good.

I would agree that the big bores are the best option for almost every chassis out there."thumbsup"

They are hands down the best shock I have ever ran.



Jake,
How extreme are your bends with the 1/8" ti?
I wouldn't even waste my time with the grade 2 stuff. It bends like stainless steel during a bending process. I will only use grade 5 at this point.
I have some 1/8" uppers in the works as well, but I believe the only way to stop them from bending or feeling springy is to keep them as straight as possible. (possibly using axial bent rod ends to keep the rod ends unbound)

I would love to see someone gun drill 3/16" titanium and then bend them as lowers. :shock:

Rig is looking killer as always."thumbsup"

Del Monte 05-28-2012 10:18 AM

Re: Del Monte's Secret Agent build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSCorpionKing (Post 3752015)
What oil dud you start off at? I'm running 22.5 front are rear. The Losi golds are a small tad too stiff, but otherwise he setup seems pretty good.

22.5 :mrgreen:

The front feels slightly too slow, but the truck performed so well overall that I might just leave it alone for now.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Chaotic Crawlers (Post 3752202)
Jake,
How extreme are your bends with the 1/8" ti?
I wouldn't even waste my time with the grade 2 stuff. It bends like stainless steel during a bending process. I will only use grade 5 at this point.
I have some 1/8" uppers in the works as well, but I believe the only way to stop them from bending or feeling springy is to keep them as straight as possible. (possibly using axial bent rod ends to keep the rod ends unbound)

I would love to see someone gun drill 3/16" titanium and then bend them as lowers. :shock:

Rig is looking killer as always."thumbsup"

Thanks! Your new chassis is looking pretty good too "thumbsup"

The link that I toasted had a pretty big bend in it. I bet a straight link would have survived. If I am going to run a straight link, I could stick with my 3/16" 7075 since it weighs about the same and feels stiffer than the 1/8" Ti.

ROWDY RACING 05-28-2012 10:31 AM

Re: Del Monte's Secret Agent build
 
Are those the 3.5" big bores, part number 2660? I was thinking about trying those since my scx's leak, and I put my Kyosho velvets on my 2.2s rig.


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