03-12-2017, 07:29 PM | #1 |
Rock Stacker Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Santa Rosa, CA
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In simple terms, does it exist anymore? Given the latest Wiki dump, people are more aware of just how little they have. My friend was unaware of the device spying...smart TV's and such. I thought that was common knowledge by now. Now we have those stupid lazy bots...Alexa, Echo, & whoever else...to turn on our lights... listening in. It's only going to get worse. Then there's social media...namely Facebook. Going out...anywhere...oh, I need to check in! Yeah, let's tell everyone where you are every second of the day. Putting a tag on your photo...People voluntarily give up privacy daily. And I put Google Maps on my phone recently...plugged in my friends address, and boom! a picture of his house was there. I could rotate to see his entire cul-de-sac. I forgot just how crazy that all is. And then there's Comey's latest line..."There is no such thing as absolute privacy in America"..."have a reasonable expectation of privacy in our homes, in our cars, in our devices." We have very little in this's three examples... I know this sounds a bit "tin foil hat" like. I'm not at all paranoid about this, they'd be bored looking into me...it's just astounding how willing people are to give up privacy without making a peep. |
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03-12-2017, 07:32 PM | #2 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Central/SE Ohio
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Noob...I have similiar sentiments as you. I just went to a Construction tradeshow where I had to have a badge to show who I was affiliated with. Nowhere did it say anything about the GPS chip inside the badge that tracks everything I do, where I go, and who'm Im talking with. It was really weird to have a GPS around my neck, literally to be eligible for the shows benefits and what not. Wow. A chip hidden inside. ConAg ConExpo is what I'm referring to. The chip is linked to my name, and my email and address. Identity tehft is going to be the most worrisome aspect of theifery as generations get older. |
03-12-2017, 08:15 PM | #3 |
Moderator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: PA
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The NSA (National Spying Agency) is evil. The government is corrupt. Money talks. Privacy is dead.
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03-12-2017, 08:19 PM | #4 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: FNQ Australia
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That is a really creative way of tracking attendees at a function but the fact they did it on the sly is a low act. The fact you didn't see a disclosure in writing somewhere to let you know what was being done is a worry. With technology getting smaller, cheaper and smarter these things will be all too common . Privacy is a thing of the past unless you want to unplug from the grid. Sent from my SM-G900I using Tapatalk |
03-12-2017, 09:22 PM | #5 | |
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03-12-2017, 10:11 PM | #6 | |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Delta B.C.
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I don't own a smart phone or smart anything, no face fook either for the reason's you listed..probably for naught though, just way too many ways for them to collect your data..nefarious or not. I don't like it one bit, most are being trained to just give it up and the training works. | |
03-13-2017, 12:45 AM | #7 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Anchorage, Alaska
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Technology corporations and the liberals have sold our soiciety out... and they both think it's the best thing since sliced pie. Because they'll become richer and more empowered by invading/regulating the lives of USA citizens. Folk have no privacy and are not free... Even tho' the liberals continue to feed that BS. Think it's bad now !? Just wait... Soon not only will technology corporations own folk completely.... But they will make your physical job become obsolete.... and automation will take over your livelihood and the income you once had. When this occurs... you will be forced to get a liberal college education and join up with them... Or be left at the wayside curb to rot. Just look at truckers... soon to be unemployed and forced to find some other line of work, because automation will make their physical needs obsolete. Just like how Uber is able to circumvent those employed as taxi drivers and are not required to meet the same background checks as do taxi drivers. Obviously this idealism/direction is corrupt and anti-constitutional... But today's folk don't see that coming... or they do... but are misguided and deceived. You don't have to be titled as a Slave to be one. This advancement in technologies... is a crime against all of mankind and humanity. But the young kids addicted to social media and the likes... Don't have a brain of their own, nor know what they do. Technology is swell... but not if yer controlled and regulated to death. You can probably blame the liberal parents for this direction... But doubt you could fix broken even if ya wanted. Get ready... it's gonna get much worse. And it's no fault of our current President nor government. It's the out of control corporations that will dictate. Unless Trump might stops them. But I won't hold my breath 'cuz the liberal controllers are gonna fight him tooth and nail to garner their one world/one government agenda. Liberal corporations see folk as a number and a taxable income source for their profitability and gain. Evil Our prior government did little to nothing to protect the USA citizens rights afforded to them by law under the constitution. it's more like a corporate sell out if ya ask me. The liberals have muddled that... to the point that most young kids have little to no understanding of what they're doing to themselves. If this young society doesn't wake up... they will be doomed. S O S before all is lost. Last edited by TacoCrawler; 03-13-2017 at 12:50 AM. |
03-13-2017, 01:04 AM | #8 |
Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: chicago
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i kinda wonder what privacy really means. total privacy to me would be never having to do anything requiring identifying yourself or your intentions.
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03-13-2017, 01:07 AM | #9 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Danish badlands
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Well it is scary what some American Agencies do, and what some popular services on the internet do, and the "excuses" they have used to be allowed to do what they do. ( sorry Americans but yours is all we know off, i am sure others are at least just as bad ) But by far what is most scary is what people hand over on their own. For just being what it is facebook should have 0 members tomorrow, but it seem like i am the only one that can see that. PS. dont do some stupid "poo" near my car, i have at least 4 cameras going in it, so if your stupid is strong i will just have to share it with the world on youtube EDIT: i should maybe mention if you are stopped next to me and are picking your nose and maybe even eating it, that will not go on youtube, i totally respect your right to be the human you are, and you can do as you please as long as it dont hurt or endanger me or my loved ones. But do some stupid related to our mutual traffic laws set forth to make us all safe and get along as motorists, and you will be in line for a exposure on youtube. Last edited by Peaker; 03-13-2017 at 01:16 AM. |
03-13-2017, 05:39 AM | #10 |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: st. louis
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The chip in the convention badges was more than likely RFID chip that was set to talk to readers in the convention hall. GPS needs power. Lots of warehouses use RFID tags to track things now. Hell most large stores will track the ID your cell phone broadcasts to identify itself to cell towers to track your movement through the store. social media is horrid for a number of reasons aside from privacy. I remember a time when people wouldn't post anything that would remotely ID themselves online... now its like most can't wait to post every little thing. What is interesting is I'm starting to see more and more younger kids NOT be on sites like FB and twitter. Most adults are sharing less, and FB users are starting to drop. Most of what I share is on FB groups that are using FB as a forum of sorts for props and 3D printing. I also stopped using the FB and Messenger apps years ago due to how they sniffed the whole phone contacts and call history, not just FB friends list. I wish there was a car out that didn't have all the BS in it as well. All of them have a version of OnStar and that shit will track all kinds of crap. Not to mention now you have to worry about your car getting hacked. This day and age to be 100% private means no digital foot print, dam near impossible anymore. |
03-13-2017, 06:18 AM | #11 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Tri-cities, WA
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I joined bookface a couple weeks ago to talk to people in my hobby and nobody else. My account is locked down so nobody can find it and I have posted no info in my bio. Bookface has suggested people from my past as friends that I haven't thought about in 20 years. I realize a lot of that is guesswork as the computer finds possible links way on down the line but it still found a whole pile of people I know. Hell the first friend it sent me was my old neighbor I lived by 5 years ago. I've had to unfollow every person I'm "friends" with because I was constantly being bombarded with their drivel on what they were up to at that minute. People are totally willing to give up any shred of privacy in exchange for some reason whether it be narcissism or just low self worth and it's sad. |
03-13-2017, 06:38 AM | #12 |
Moderator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: PA
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| Re: Privacy No you didn't! The world is going to end... Facebook scans your email for friends. If you made contact with a person even once and that email is registered on Facebook it will find that "friend" for you. I'm sure there's more to the algorithm, but I get friend suggestions of people I've done business with once. |
03-13-2017, 07:01 AM | #13 |
Custom Carbon Fiber Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Connecticut :(
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Tinfoil ........ just saying If you buried your lanyard with the gps in a cemetery, would that be considered faking your own death? |
03-13-2017, 07:54 AM | #14 |
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| Re: Privacy I really don't agree that this thread is for the tinfoil mad hatters. All of the spying has been proven. Should the average citizen be concerned? I don't think so. I personally think the NSA spying pretty much violates the very freedom from an overbearing government that this country was founded on.
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03-13-2017, 08:05 AM | #15 |
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03-13-2017, 08:14 AM | #16 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Danish badlands
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I come from a place that pretty much wrote the book on the nanny state, and the results are pretty easy to see. Remove just about every Dane from his tax funded cushion, and you will see a prime example of a person in panic. And people here dont even see that the nanny/welfare state is slowly being dismantled around them. O and the people here they hand just about any information over to a gooberment run system that time after time have proven that it is not to be trusted in any way with information thats supposed to be kept secret, or in general any form of IT system. If you are traversing the darker sides of the interweb you should be able to find a lot of information on just about any Dane, cuz at least the systems containing that information have been breached several times. And thats not counting the times some public branch have sent DVDs loaded with un-encrypted information about thousands of Danes, and then sent that information to the Chinese embassy instead of some research institute. Cuz our postal system is also run by imbeciles. NSA knows cuz they know what is there on Danes, if they dident acquire that information them self, we handed it over as the good friends of the US that we are. And NSA would love the same info on every American, not least if it would just be handed over peacefully instead of them having to get creative with legislature and funding. Last edited by Peaker; 03-13-2017 at 08:19 AM. |
03-13-2017, 08:26 AM | #17 | |
Custom Carbon Fiber Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Connecticut :(
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But you can blame 5 planes and their hijackers on bringing us to this level of privacy loss. Once that Patriot Act was signed into law then everything became titled as 'for national security' Im with you though ...... I dont do wrong shit and nothing to hide so if they are listening in on my smart tv then all I ask is they keep it updated so I dont have to wait every time I turn it on | |
03-13-2017, 08:33 AM | #18 |
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03-13-2017, 08:37 AM | #19 | |
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All they're going to hear from my devices is porn! | |
03-13-2017, 09:28 AM | #20 |
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