* Is my rig legal ? *

[montana.matt]

Originally Posted by War Pig

I think that the Bruiser looks like a much more realistic interior than the Pro-line one....something about a vacuum formed lexan interior that just doesn't do it for me. To me it's just taking the easy way out, and I don't think people should be rewarded for that....scale points should be earned.

If you think scale points should be earned, then neither interior should get max points.... Using a Bruiser interior could be considered "taking the easy way out", also

[War Pig]

Originally Posted by montana.matt

If you think scale points should be earned, then neither interior should get max points.... Using a Bruiser interior could be considered "taking the easy way out", also

You have a point there.....

[Just Zach]

Originally Posted by War Pig

You have a point there.....

I'm not really trying to push the issue, I just think there is a bit of a flaw in the rules that should be cleared up. I really don't care if they are 1 point or 3 as it doesn't affect me much.

I don't see the difference with cutting the interior out of a newbright jeep. I see your point but the distinction in what gets points needs to be different. Even if it was lexan -1 and hard plastic or metal -3 then the argument would have to be over. The fact is that the Proline interiors are 3D and there are a lot of options out there that are just as easy and not any more $. I also feel that the Proline interior when painted and detailed looks better than a lot of the "3D" interiors I've seen.

[kaetwo]

Here are a few not so good pics, but you get the general idea.

The driver has no legs, as there is not much room to stuff a guy in there.

[Grizzly4x4]

Here is how I would interpret the rules.

According to the rules a -5 interior requires that 75% of the driver figure must be able to fit into a 3D interior. Seems to me that the Bruiser interior does meet that requirement based on those pics from Kaetwo. The driver is complete above the knees.

Therefore I'd rule that a Bruiser interior must be a -3 3D interior.

So can the Proline interior fit a 75% complete driver? I'm speculating here but I doubt it. Looks to me like the Proline interior would only allow a driver from the belly up. I'd call that 50% of a driver. A lexan cover gets -2 points if it has 50% of a driver.

Therefore I'd rule that since the Proline interior fits only 50% of a driver it must be considered a lexan cover and only gets -1 points.


Not trying to take sides or anything like that. Just wanted to offer my thoughts on how to clear up the ruling.

[montana.matt]

Originally Posted by Grizzly4x4

Looks to me like the Proline interior would only allow a driver from the belly up. I'd call that 50% of a driver. A lexan cover gets -2 points if it has 50% of a driver.

Therefore I'd rule that since the Proline interior fits only 50% of a driver it must be considered a lexan cover and only gets -1 points.

So which is it? -1 or -2?

[Grizzly4x4]

Originally Posted by montana.matt

So which is it? -1 or -2?

-1 if there is no driver figure, -2 if there is a 50% driver figure.
Duh....

[Just Zach]

Originally Posted by Grizzly4x4

Here is how I would interpret the rules.

According to the rules a -5 interior requires that 75% of the driver figure must be able to fit into a 3D interior. Seems to me that the Bruiser interior does meet that requirement based on those pics from Kaetwo. The driver is complete above the knees.

Therefore I'd rule that a Bruiser interior must be a -3 3D interior.

So can the Proline interior fit a 75% complete driver? I'm speculating here but I doubt it. Looks to me like the Proline interior would only allow a driver from the belly up. I'd call that 50% of a driver. A lexan cover gets -2 points if it has 50% of a driver.

Therefore I'd rule that since the Proline interior fits only 50% of a driver it must be considered a lexan cover and only gets -1 points.


Not trying to take sides or anything like that. Just wanted to offer my thoughts on how to clear up the ruling.

You have a good point there. I think I could fit more than 50% of a driver in mine but I choose not to run a driver because I've had a hard time finding one that doesn't look like a toy.

[montana.matt]

Originally Posted by Grizzly4x4

-1 if there is no driver figure, -2 if there is a 50% driver figure.
Duh....

I just want to make sure before I go hack up a driver to fit. I'm fine on points, so it might not be worth the hassle for one point

[Grizzly4x4]

Originally Posted by Just Zach

You have a good point there. I think I could fit more than 50% of a driver in mine but I choose not to run a driver because I've had a hard time finding one that doesn't look like a toy.

I'd suggest finding a driver that is 75% complete and putting it in there. You don't have to run with the driver but use it to prove your point that you can fit a 75% complete driver in there. That should then help show that your interior is worth -3.

I'm just spitballing here though.

[Grizzly4x4]

Originally Posted by montana.matt

I just want to make sure before I go hack up a driver to fit. I'm fine on points, so it might not be worth the hassle for one point

Well don't base your actions on what I say. I have no authority here.
I'm just offering a suggestion to help define the difference between a 3D interior and a lexan cover.

[montana.matt]

Just a quick hack job. I had to cut some of the seat bottom out to fit him in there and he's chopped off just below the knees

[Grizzly4x4]

Originally Posted by montana.matt

Just a quick hack job. I had to cut some of the seat bottom out to fit him in there and he's chopped off just below the knees

If you had to cut the seat out he's not really "in" the interior is he? I see part of him hanging below the interior.

[Nate08]

Originally Posted by Grizzly4x4

If you had to cut the seat out he's not really "in" the interior is he? I see part of him hanging below the interior.

Rules say with driver....not with driver fully contained within the interior. Actually doesnt even say that the 75% must be all together in one location

[Grizzly4x4]

Originally Posted by Nate08

Rules say with driver....not with driver fully contained within the interior. Actually doesnt even say that the 75% must be all together in one location

A loophole finder. I love it!!!

[Nate08]

Originally Posted by Grizzly4x4

A loophole finder. I love it!!!

After a season comping with Devlin it's unavoidable

[PinchFlat]

My I make a suggestion...

Driver aside...
Ok I can put a flat piece of styrene to cover my trany (not unlike a tonneau cover) in my truck and get -1 point (this has been said previously) I also would get -1 for the more detailed pro-line interior. If I build an interior, no matter how basic and shitty looking as long as it follows the min requirements I'll get -3

My point is mostly with the -1 point part of this... How about -1 for the styrene cover and -2 points for the molded pro-line & bruiser interior & any other molded type interiors (newbright jeep etc.) that all you pretty much need to do is paint and instal. That leaves the -3 for anything that is hand made.

Then add the same points for drivers appropriately, -1 for 1/2 drivers -2 for 3/4+ drivers (or whatever it is).

[War Pig]

Wow Pinch, that is word for word what Ive been thinking for the last hour....thanks, you just saved me alot of typing on my phone....

[PinchFlat]

Originally Posted by War Pig

Wow Pinch, that is word for word what Ive been thinking for the last hour....thanks, you just saved me alot of typing on my phone....

Right On!

[justinart24]

Well damn, I spent a shinny penny on a bruiser interior. What a dilemma, should I change to bruiser interior, lose points and get the COG down or keep as is.

Current interior
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...4/IMG_2130.jpg

Bruiser Interior
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...24/bruiser.jpg