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01-12-2012, 06:25 PM | #1 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Corona, CA
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| Motor stuttering/ cutting out
My motor seems to stutter or cut out, especially when full throttled I have the Castle SCT sidewinder motor/ ESC combo. Pinion and spur are 48p 10t/ 48p 96t respectively It seems to have started since running it on the beach back at Christmas. My stuff isn't waterproofed, but did run it over some wet sand and such (enough to spatter, but no submersion). Running a Honcho Could my problem be with sand inside something? Motor or ESC problem? Anyone else have a similar problem? |
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01-12-2012, 07:36 PM | #2 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: 07456 N. NJ USofA
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| Re: Motor stuttering/ cutting out
My guess would be the motor has sand inside and/or the sand wore down the brushes. A decent motor tune-up is in store. What motor? Some are worth rebuilding, some just get replaced. |
01-12-2012, 08:58 PM | #3 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Rancho Relaxo. California. USA. Earth.
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| Re: Motor stuttering/ cutting out
The sidewinder sct combo includes the 1410 brushless motor. What batteries are you using? |
01-12-2012, 11:00 PM | #4 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Corona, CA
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| Re: Motor stuttering/ cutting out
Brand new uhh... Speedpak 4500 I should say I noticed it RIGHT when I was driving it in the sand. Was doing fine for about 10mins. Let my little cousin drive it and thought he jsut couldn't control it. When I drove it again, I noticed it was the truck itself. Not sure if the motor can get trashed that quick... |
01-13-2012, 06:03 AM | #5 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Plano,TX
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| Re: Motor stuttering/ cutting out
running a BEC??
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01-13-2012, 09:35 AM | #6 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Beaumont, Tx
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| Re: Motor stuttering/ cutting out
Might have heated up the sidewinder's bec and u may need an external one. I had to have one in my slash on 3s.
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01-13-2012, 09:37 AM | #7 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Memphis
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| Re: Motor stuttering/ cutting out
I would pull the brushes and peak at the commutator. I'm willing to bet that it's really dirty and those brushes are worn down. It doesn't take long for dirt and sand to screw a good running motor.
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01-13-2012, 10:14 AM | #8 | |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: 07456 N. NJ USofA
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| Re: Motor stuttering/ cutting out Quote:
I was thinking the same as you though. | |
01-13-2012, 11:17 AM | #9 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Corona, CA
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| Re: Motor stuttering/ cutting out
I keep forgetting what BEC stands for That said, I don't think I have one, lol. Whatever was in the SCT box is what I got What's BL mean? |
01-13-2012, 11:18 AM | #10 | |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: 07456 N. NJ USofA
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| Re: Motor stuttering/ cutting out Quote:
BL = brushless | |
01-13-2012, 11:27 AM | #11 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Corona, CA
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| Re: Motor stuttering/ cutting out
Then yes, it is BL Thinking of breaking open the ESC as it did get a little bit of water on it, but that shouldn't hurt it... Could it also be a radio problem? Edit. Looking at the ESC, there are some open places some salt water spray could've gotten in there I took some vid so will upload that. That may give you a better idea of what I'm talking about Last edited by Armistice; 01-13-2012 at 01:27 PM. |
01-13-2012, 03:12 PM | #12 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Corona, CA
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| Re: Motor stuttering/ cutting out
2 within the first 5 sec and a 3rd at :29 It does do it in forward, but wasn't working, so ran it in reverse as it did it more in reverse http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXuuRYAZK7Q Last edited by Armistice; 01-13-2012 at 03:14 PM. |
01-13-2012, 09:29 PM | #13 |
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Sounds kinda like radio interference to me.. What kind of TX-RX system you running? Get a BEC on that thing! |
01-13-2012, 10:19 PM | #14 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Corona, CA
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| Re: Motor stuttering/ cutting out
I've had no radio interference before at my house or the GFs I was thinking that as well, but it's not the drag brake kicking in, the wheels lock up. I'll get back with my receiver Futaba R152JE Last edited by Armistice; 01-13-2012 at 10:29 PM. |
01-14-2012, 05:41 AM | #15 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: 07456 N. NJ USofA
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| Re: Motor stuttering/ cutting out
It looks like it only does it when hard steering, is this true? 1-Check the steering EPA's, you may be binding the servo. 2-You may need an external BEC. 3-It may be worth pulling the motor, disassembling & cleaning. Make sure connections are good (especially the sensor if it has one). 4-With the motor out, make sure there is no binding in the drivetrain. Maybe sand between the pinion & spur, or in knuckles. 5-Salt water is very hard on electronics. Pulling the ESC apart and cleaning with rubbing alcohol & an old toothbrush will help. Get all the little spaces. Let dry & reassemble. If you're going to run the rig in water/salt water, read the stickie on waterproofing. If you do the above & still have issues (when turning), then an external BEC may be needed. What steering servo? |
01-14-2012, 10:02 AM | #16 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Corona, CA
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| Re: Motor stuttering/ cutting out
What's EPA? You know how when the waves go out and it leave the water behind until it sinks into the sand, that's what I drove through a few times I'll tear apart the motor and ESC today Servo is a Futaba S3004 |
01-14-2012, 11:14 AM | #17 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: 07456 N. NJ USofA
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| Re: Motor stuttering/ cutting out EPA = End Point Adjustment......available for some radios. What it does is allow you to have the radio stop a channel (steering in this case) before hard bits hit and bind, thus causing the servo to draw a lot of amps which can lead to the ESC internal BEC getting overworked and dumping the electronics.
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01-14-2012, 11:23 AM | #18 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Corona, CA
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| Re: Motor stuttering/ cutting out
I may add I'm using crystals and radio from my Team Associated T2, lol! It's about 12yrs old |
01-14-2012, 11:42 AM | #19 | |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: 07456 N. NJ USofA
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I'm not sure if your radio has EPA adjustments.....see if you can find a manual online if you don't have your paper one. | |
01-14-2012, 12:41 PM | #20 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Corona, CA
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| Re: Motor stuttering/ cutting out
I have throttle and steering trim/ throttle and steering reverse. That's about it
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