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House 10-30-2018 08:20 PM

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Don’t remember who showed me this tool at Wild West,
but I got one last year and I love it. Much better than pliers.

House 10-30-2018 09:16 PM

Re: House’s TiDe Fighter
 
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Originally Posted by Almighty Malach (Post 5880425)
Might as well build everything out of titanium then...

I have a set of both 7075 and 6Al4V cases, so that isn’t impossible.
The 7075 is a surprisingly strong material. These 7mm Dlux rear axles
are 7075 and I haven’t seen a broken one yet... Dlux and RCBros are making
their Berg lockers out of 7075, SDS was as well, and they seem to last.
The Dlux 7mm 4140 fronts are beefy as heck. I don’t see breaking one.
Not sure where I am going here, but just thinking about WHITE-TRASH
thinking the tubes are too thin and a Super needing to be even stronger.
I think 6Al4V cases and tubes would do the trick with the same shafts as
this rig, just longer...? I don’t really feel like doing destructive testing,
but maybe I should reconsider that...?

WHITE-TRASH 10-30-2018 10:15 PM

Re: House’s TiDe Fighter
 
Tom showed me those pliers in AZ so I replaced the losi pliers I'd been using immediately. I showed Erik at BOTW, I'm sure he has them by now. :lol:


Never admit to thinking about me, Erik gets crazy jealous. :lmao:


I hope I'm wrong about the tubes but I don't think I am. That is a stress point for sure. The only reason ssd_lux axles hold up is the truss keeping them in line.

House 10-30-2018 10:28 PM

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I am thinking the weakest point would be the case itself where it is split to clamp the tube, but I sure as shït don't want it to break there either...!
My tubes don't have a truss, but then again there is only .003" on each side of the axle shaft itself, so the tube 'could' rely on the inner shaft for support also if it was in a crashing scenario...?

WHITE-TRASH 10-30-2018 10:49 PM

Re: House’s TiDe Fighter
 
Relying on the axles to stave off excessive deflection, risky. Better keep them shafts lubed up to keep mr gall away. :lol:


Personally I'd tie the link mounts back into the case. Anything would help.

House 10-30-2018 11:48 PM

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Yeah I don't really see them relying on it, just saying that it would have to bend or break the axle at the same time.
I think anything can break at some point... Especially like the tumble Erik's car took last month. That could have been
a lot worse than it ended up!
How many spare SDS gear cases do you have? Have you broken any?

House 10-31-2018 12:23 AM

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So using a Yield Stress calculator, it says it will take 343 lbs. of force to start bending my long side tube as it is. Hmm...
That makes me go back to thinking the case is the weak point...

WHITE-TRASH 10-31-2018 12:27 AM

Re: House’s TiDe Fighter
 
How many sds cases have I killed? Exactly as many as I've owned, none. I'm just a believer in beef because I break shit like it's my job. :lol:


I hope that's a different calculator than Mr ottman used that told him that beef tubes in the housing and 3 oz of weight in each front wheel was the best possible setup for climbing...


You probably won't have any issues since you drive smoothly and with care, 2 things I lack.

JatoTheRipper 10-31-2018 07:48 AM

Re: House’s TiDe Fighter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by House (Post 5880750)
Don’t remember who showed me this tool at Wild West,
but I got one last year and I love it. Much better than pliers.

Does this pliers, with the hexagonal cutouts for the shocks, work better than pliers with the semicircle cutouts?

This build started off as porn and it continues to be porn. Filthy! :mrgreen:

House 10-31-2018 09:15 AM

Re: House’s TiDe Fighter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JatoTheRipper (Post 5880841)
Does this pliers, with the hexagonal cutouts for the shocks, work better than pliers with the semicircle cutouts?

This build started off as porn and it continues to be porn. Filthy! :mrgreen:

The 12mm hex will still grab the round machined caps firmly.
Thanks! :ror:

House 10-31-2018 09:21 AM

Re: House’s TiDe Fighter
 
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Originally Posted by WHITE-TRASH (Post 5880789)
How many sds cases have I killed? Exactly as many as I've owned, none. ...

OK, gotcha. I wasn't being a dick, I thought you had some...

Almighty Malach 10-31-2018 09:22 AM

Re: House’s TiDe Fighter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by House (Post 5880760)
I have a set of both 7075 and 6Al4V cases, so that isn’t impossible.
The 7075 is a surprisingly strong material. These 7mm Dlux rear axles
are 7075 and I haven’t seen a broken one yet... Dlux and RCBros are making
their Berg lockers out of 7075, SDS was as well, and they seem to last.
The Dlux 7mm 4140 fronts are beefy as heck. I don’t see breaking one.
Not sure where I am going here, but just thinking about WHITE-TRASH
thinking the tubes are too thin and a Super needing to be even stronger.
I think 6Al4V cases and tubes would do the trick with the same shafts as
this rig, just longer...? I don’t really feel like doing destructive testing,
but maybe I should reconsider that...?

From what I remember from a conversation with Nabil a long time ago at a comp; 7075 and titanium have roughly the same cross sectional strength but titanium is heavier. So, you're really only gaining cool points by making Ti parts. I just like Titanium a lot haha

WHITE-TRASH 10-31-2018 09:42 AM

Re: House’s TiDe Fighter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by House (Post 5880866)
OK, gotcha. I wasn't being a dick, I thought you had some...

Right because I'm worried about you being a dick. I was about to go cry in a corner until I read this. :lmao:


7075 is good stuff so it will likely hold up. Ti is over rated and adds weight in an application like this.

With clear eyes this am I think a simple sleeve about 1" long that slips over the tubes and the clamping shoulder would do the trick. It would strengthen the whole area of the joint and not lose any real measurable ground clearance.

House 10-31-2018 10:19 AM

Re: House’s TiDe Fighter
 
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Originally Posted by WHITE-TRASH (Post 5880880)
Right because I'm worried about you being a dick. I was about to go cry in a corner until I read this.

Oh I am sure you don't give a flea bag rats ass, just clarifying for the others reading this... ;-)

Quote:

Originally Posted by WHITE-TRASH (Post 5880880)
I think a simple sleeve about 1" long that slips over the tubes and the clamping shoulder would do the trick. It would strengthen the whole area of the joint and not lose any real measurable ground clearance.

True, I will look at that a little closer...

House 11-01-2018 10:18 AM

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Yes, a little premature, but some wheel porn for you...
Dlux carbon solid center flathead rising suns wrapped in
Crawler Innovations Double Deuce foams and narrowed
Ottsix Voodoos...

WHITE-TRASH 11-01-2018 10:35 AM

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Uh oh Jeremy isn't gonna like you copying his no holes & countersink trademark... :lol:

House 11-01-2018 11:00 AM

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krawlfreak? He hasn't logged in for 2.5 years!

Ohhh... Stubs! You're right, dang! It's OK, he just has a ™, not a ® ... :lmao:

House 11-01-2018 11:06 AM

Re: House’s TiDe Fighter
 
I may drill a small hole in the center for a driver to fit through anyway if my LOCTITE® comes loose...

WHITE-TRASH 11-01-2018 11:13 AM

Re: House’s TiDe Fighter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by House (Post 5881204)

Ohhh... Stubs! You're right, dang! It's OK, he just has a ™, not a ® ... :lmao:



:lol: That's what he gets for not registering it.

House 11-01-2018 04:35 PM

Re: House’s TiDe Fighter
 
In retrospect, I should probably go with something more scale to drum up more interest in this build, huh?
Maybe some Warn hubs and acorn lug nuts?! :mrgreen:


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