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Old 10-21-2008, 05:19 AM   #1
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2.1.3.2 - Unibody – Constructed of a single piece of solid material (fiberglass, aluminum,
plastic, etc) and must be self supporting. A Unibody cannot be fastened together in any nonpermanent
way such as, nuts & bolts, pins, rivets, zip ties, etc. The roof must be raised from
the main chassis to resemble a cockpit and should resemble a 1:1 vehicle.

pretty much outlaw TVP tubers doesn't it???... unless you run a lexan body on it I would guess.

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Old 10-21-2008, 07:14 AM   #2
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That is only if you are running a solid body. It must be in one piece. Nothing about a tuber in that rule....Read the rules above that one......

2.1.3 - Bodiless vehicles: Must be a self-supporting, structurally complete, rigid frame. The roof must be raised a minimum of 1” from the main chassis to resemble a cockpit. The frame sides must be an overall minimum of 1” tall (The cockpit & frame side are to be measured vertically from where the hood intersects the cab). Bodiless vehicles should resemble a 1:1 vehicle. NOTE: These bodiless rules are in a 1 year trial period to see how people respond to it and after that time these rules & requirements may be revised.
o 2.1.3.1 - Bodiless vehicles must have solid hood panel, solid roof panel and a minimum of 2 solid side-panels. Hood, roof and side panels must be separate pieces of solid material installed onto the bodiless vehicle frame. All body panels are to be separate pieces from the complete structural frame. Body panels must be solidly installed in a manner that is representative of a 1:1 vehicle. It is required that at least one point of the side-panel must reach to a span of 1” tall or more & at least one other point of the side-panel must reach to a span of 2.5” long or more. In the case of a Unibody vehicle (See sec. 2.1.3.2 for Unibody definition). The Unibody is considered to have all body panels needed without having to add separate body panels as long as the hood, roof & side panel areas meet all the general panel & side-panel size requirements above.
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Old 10-21-2008, 07:24 AM   #3
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so is this legal?????
My crawler after 5 months...
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Old 10-21-2008, 07:29 AM   #4
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the side panels need to be seperate from the frame the way the rules are currently written.
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Old 10-21-2008, 08:07 AM   #5
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2.1.3.2 - Unibody – Constructed of a single piece of solid material (fiberglass, aluminum,
plastic, etc) and must be self supporting. A Unibody cannot be fastened together in any nonpermanent
way such as, nuts & bolts, pins, rivets, zip ties, etc. The roof must be raised from
the main chassis to resemble a cockpit and should resemble a 1:1 vehicle.

pretty much outlaw TVP tubers doesn't it???... unless you run a lexan body on it I would guess.




As long as the tuber section is welded/brazed to the tvp part (making it a single solid piece) it is legal. The tuber section can't be bolted to the tvp.
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Old 10-21-2008, 12:29 PM   #6
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2.1.3.2 - Unibody – Constructed of a single piece of solid material (fiberglass, aluminum,
plastic, etc) and must be self supporting. A Unibody cannot be fastened together in any nonpermanent
way such as, nuts & bolts, pins, rivets, zip ties, etc. The roof must be raised from
the main chassis to resemble a cockpit and should resemble a 1:1 vehicle.

pretty much outlaw TVP tubers doesn't it???... unless you run a lexan body on it I would guess.
A TVP tuber falls under the bodiless classification in the 2008 rulebook but is not considered a unibody. See the attached pics for a unibody.
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so is this legal?????
My crawler after 5 months...
If it meets the minimum dimensions then it should fall under the bodiless classification.
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As long as the tuber section is welded/brazed to the tvp part (making it a single solid piece) it is legal. The tuber section can't be bolted to the tvp.
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Actually Nickle, a tube body bolted to a TVP chassis is legal under the 2008 rules and falls under the classification of bodiless.

These pics are examples of a unibody.
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2.1.3.2 - Unibody – Constructed of a single piece of solid material (fiberglass, aluminum,
plastic, etc) and must be self supporting. A Unibody cannot be fastened together in any nonpermanent
way such as, nuts & bolts, pins, rivets, zip ties, etc. The roof must be raised from
the main chassis to resemble a cockpit and should resemble a 1:1 vehicle.

pretty much outlaw TVP tubers doesn't it???... unless you run a lexan body on it I would guess.
What's wrong, Jeff? Are you worried about something?
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Matt. I ain't scared!
just wanting some clarification. I thought that those TVP tubers were kinda pushing the rules a bit but if not... cool.
I like the idea behind them, just wasn't sure how a guy would slide them into competition if they weren't legal. If they are... everyone should have a couple.
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Matt. I ain't scared!
just wanting some clarification. I thought that those TVP tubers were kinda pushing the rules a bit but if not... cool.
I like the idea behind them, just wasn't sure how a guy would slide them into competition if they weren't legal. If they are... everyone should have a couple.
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A TVP tuber falls under the bodiless classification in the 2008 rulebook but is not considered a unibody. See the attached pics for a unibody.

If it meets the minimum dimensions then it should fall under the bodiless classification.

Actually Nickle, a tube body bolted to a TVP chassis is legal under the 2008 rules and falls under the classification of bodiless.

These pics are examples of a unibody.
Wouldn't pic #2 fall under Bodiless, the hood is not part of the unibody?
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Wouldn't pic #2 fall under Bodiless, the hood is not part of the unibody?
Ah, good point. I don't really remember requiring the hood to be part of the unibody, especially since pic 2 was one of rigs we used to define unibody. However you are right, the hood must be part of it.

It's not a big factor though. Unibody falls under the bodiless category so a unibody still must meet the requirements of a bodiless vehicle, just like a TVP tuber.
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this comp legal?

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JRH ran that one at Nationals...
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I think im going to get my lawyer to read over these rules and interpret them for me.
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I don't see the question. I see lexan side panels, and a lexan hood. Definitely plenty long, and I am sure width is good. It resembles a 1:1 in my eye.
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i think its just me, i thought i remembered discussion of anything TVP having to run a body. it appears that went byu the way side and i am wrong. looks sweet imo
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