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02-25-2022, 05:50 PM | #21 | |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: smithville
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If I ever had my own RC brand, I’d be making the most durable thing I could. I can’t stand weak RC’s that break too easy. Last edited by Krawler23; 02-25-2022 at 05:57 PM. | |
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02-25-2022, 05:56 PM | #22 | ||
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Given that the TRX4 w/ a 2 speed isn’t that fast, it seems like it won’t entirely be worth it, even though I’m sure it’s still great. The only thing hanging me up still is the portal axles. I know it raises your center of gravity, but I know that will help clearance as well. Would you say that trade off is worth it? Also, I thought lower turn motors were faster? You said your 16t was too fast so you we’re going to drop to a 13t, isn’t that faster? Keep in mind, I’d like to be able to go through water without destroying all of the electronics, I’ve heard brushed is better for that. Any recommendations for what motor (brushed/brushless) and motor turn / pinion gear to rock with? Last edited by Krawler23; 02-26-2022 at 03:48 PM. | ||
02-25-2022, 06:06 PM | #23 | ||
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02-26-2022, 07:29 AM | #24 | |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: california under the rock im crawling on
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but ya thats why i wont buy kits anymore its cheaper to just buy the aftermarket parts out the gate the only things left from the original wraith is the skid the trans case is a stock replacement as are 2 of the shocks oh maybe the electronics water trap box but i dought its gona get reused when i rebuild something else to consider 1 i completely over powered it with a big brushless motor and heavy weighted wheels the 1/8 scale buggy motor and mmx were 250 of that 2 there wasent anything else out there that was stronger so it was what it was now days there are so many cheap wraith parts it would cost half that much to build back in the day axial was the sherbert and the wraith was the flavor of the day and it held up better than most other brands my tamiyas were breaking everytime out too so thats all i had to compaire to at the time so i was ok with the wraith not being as strong as i would have hoped for my next axial was the yeti xl we all know were those went lol the one thing that really pissed me off was axial telling me my wraith was to modified to run at axial fest that was the line in the sand in my book ill never buy another axial new again ill buy them used and i still buy stock parts when i need them but ill never buy a new kit or rtr again since horizon took over they really relaxed the rules at axial fest and the new stuff is made much better now every brand coming out now is pretty tough having compatition makes everyones rig better what ever the brand now we get stuff that isent broken out of the box lol | |
02-26-2022, 09:01 AM | #25 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Caldwell ID.
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And my rig is the complete opposite. Mild mods $50 for Universals $6 metal gears $6 for stainless steel straws $3 8/40 all thread $179 Copperhead /Slate motor combo $80 Saxox 1210 servo. A few bits and pieces of aluminum to move the battery forward and done... Okay so I doubled the cost of the Wraith, but she is pretty bullet proof now. Most of it the Brushless system. and a good servo. When I break the plastic Knuckles or C Hubs, I will replace them with aluminum. Also she is not stupidly overpowered Last edited by lonleycreeper; 02-26-2022 at 09:14 AM. |
02-26-2022, 09:25 AM | #26 | |
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As for portal axles, I can take them or leave them. It doesn't matter much to me. I have trucks with them & trucks without them. I don't see much of a difference on the trail. Portal axles have never been a deciding factor for me. If anything, there's more parts to break. Usually it's a broken/stripped output gear. It happens to all brands of portal axles. | |
02-26-2022, 05:26 PM | #27 | |||
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So far here's what I'm thinking: SSD Trail King 1080 HobbyWing Esc 5-slot 540 13t Holmes Hobbies Crawlmaster Battery: ? What size should I get? I'd assume 3s for cells. I've heard great things about Zeee lipos. Body: ? I am leaning towards a truck body so if you have any ideas, lmk. TX: Hacked FlySky GT3B I use for my XR10 MOA RX: FlySky GT3B 3CH RX Servo: ? Something preferably waterproof. Wheels, Tires, Foams: Proline Krawlers, Proline Hyrax, Proline Swampers or J Concepts Scorpios tires as recommended by Bob. Are the foams that with these tires any good? Or is it really worth getting new ones? Wire Gauge: ? What gauge wire should I get for the motor to the esc? I'd like to get this thing in water, not submerged, but enough to the point where it's fun and I don't have to worry about breaking anything. Do I need to get a different RX and waterproof the ESC from the get go? Or is it all good to go w/o anything? Also, do I need any sealant for the battery/esc connectors? I'm going to have to switch my chargers deans connectors over to whatever I end up with, so I wanted to have some solder and heat shrink supplies if I need to solder anything up. Last edited by Krawler23; 02-27-2022 at 01:30 PM. | |||
02-26-2022, 10:52 PM | #28 | |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Caldwell ID.
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3s 2200 mah batteries give me 1-1.5 hours of runtime with my 16t Crawl Master Sport motor. The 1080 is "waterproof" from the factory. I run a Savox 0231 in my Trail King, it's enough for most things in my lightweight rig. My Wraith I built with budget in mind and only parts that would improve performance. | |
03-02-2022, 05:11 PM | #29 |
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What about the XS01 or XS02 kit? It seems like the XS01 is discontinued but it looks really nice because it’s all metal. Also, what about hard bodies? They look a lot nicer, but I didn’t know if they’re more prone to breaking etc. I’m thinking either a Jeep body or a old Chevy C10 pickup body. Any good hard/soft body versions of those I should be considering? Last edited by Krawler23; 03-02-2022 at 05:14 PM. |
03-07-2022, 06:41 AM | #30 | |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Caldwell ID.
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Hard bodies are much more detailed than lexan bodies as a general rule. newer Lexan bodies with bolt on accessories are getting close to the same detail levels. I pulled the Toyota hard body because I got tired of gluing it back together after tumbles a Lexan body laughs at. I am now running a lexan Bronco on my Trail King... Last edited by lonleycreeper; 03-07-2022 at 07:14 AM. | |
03-07-2022, 08:41 AM | #31 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Tri-cities, WA
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The bully 2 is craptastic. Heavy and prone to failure with limited repair parts from rc3wd. You already own an xr10 so slap dual escs in it and a newer chassis and party. If the gears fail Dluxfab has you covered since they just started getting gears made. For a tough trail rig you will not beat a trx4. I have had 10.2 up to vs410 pros and the trx4 is far and away the toughest rig of them all even on 2.2s and 4s brushless. |
03-07-2022, 09:17 AM | #32 |
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03-07-2022, 10:40 PM | #33 | |
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Maybe I’ll see if Dluxfab has some knuckle weights b/c right now I use the weights that axial originally gave me that go around the foams on the wheels itself, which is terrible for stressing the gears. You’ve kind of sparked my interest in the XR10 again now that I know there’s better parts support. Have you ever heard of the 2 bolt mod for it? Is it worth it? I have heard the TRX4 is seriously tough. Kevin Talbot put like 6s on that thing and bashed it in a skatepark and it’s held up. The fact a crawler can do that is insane. What do you think of the toughness of the SSD Trail King vs the TRX4? Or what about the scale builders kit that Traxxas offers? Is that worth it over an RTR? I’d rather build a kit honestly, RTR is trash imo. Last edited by Krawler23; 03-07-2022 at 10:52 PM. | |
03-08-2022, 11:34 PM | #34 | |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Tri-cities, WA
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I think you're talking about the through bolt mod where you run longer bolts all the way through the case with nuts holding the works together since the case halves tended to split under load. I'm not a huge fan of the xr10 but you already own it so no point going goofy stepping into a whole new platform especially with dlux stepping up to the plate. My trx4 is an rtr I got in a trade. I haven't had so much as a servo failure and I treat it terribly. The rtr radio is actually rather good and it's 5 channel. We aren't dealing with the spectrum garbage that horizon includes with their rigs. | |
03-13-2022, 10:44 PM | #35 | |
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I'll check out DLUX's brass knuckle weights. I'm thinking of grabbing a set of Proline Ibex's for tires, how are they? Trying to find good MOA tires seems pretty impossible as there's not much out there as they're all discontinued. I'm thinking about pairing it with these shoes https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...UJ1N1VK0&psc=1 | |
03-13-2022, 11:40 PM | #36 | |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Tri-cities, WA
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I run a berg that's all Dluxfab end to end. I can buy everything all new and all aftermarket if needed, berg has killer aftermarket support. Ibex are decent, check out dlux, they had a whole new tire built and they carry Huge Pins and ibex. They also have better wheels than those from Amazon although that's not a terrible price. I like to keep things local if possible. | |
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