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Old 09-02-2009, 09:14 AM   #1
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Exclamation "brushless review "ccmicro pro" vs "novak mong".

well i bit the bullet and ordered both brushless
setups for the mrc!

ive got the micro pro w 4200kv in hand and the novak mongoose 18.5t
is in the mail on its way.

ive never done a review w alot of pics and info
but im gonna try my best to give as much specs
as possible.

ive got sat off,so im dedicating that day for testing!


heres some teaser pics!


micro pro


novak mongoose


mongoose specs sheet.


Mamba Micro Pro Specs

Cells: 4-12 NiCad/NiMH
2-3s LiPo
Continuous: More than you can handle!
Resistance: 0.045 ohms
Brake: Proportional
Reversible: Yes - with lockout
Low Voltage Cutoff: Programmable
Size: ESC:
1.5 "L x 1.1" W x 0.6" H

Motor:
0.79" dia. x 1.3"
Weight w/wires: ESC:
1 oz (28.35 g)

CM-20 Motor:
1.7 oz (48g)
Connector Type:


mongoose installed


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Old 09-02-2009, 09:17 AM   #2
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Im very interested to see how the sensorless motor works with so much geardown.
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Old 09-02-2009, 03:06 PM   #3
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Will be watching this one cuz of my plans for a future MRC build I will be going brushless.
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Old 09-02-2009, 03:52 PM   #4
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I ran againest soundcolor the other day and he had the mamba micro pro with the brushless motor and it did ok at best it was soooooo t tt t ww ii tt cc hhh yyyy!
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Old 09-02-2009, 06:08 PM   #5
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t tt t ww ii tt cc hhh yyyy!
That is some funny and descriptive typing right there !
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Old 09-04-2009, 10:38 AM   #6
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Old 09-05-2009, 10:46 AM   #7
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Is there a post somewhere that explains the difference between brushed and brushless?
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Old 09-05-2009, 12:44 PM   #8
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Is there a post somewhere that explains the difference between brushed and brushless?
there is not a specific brushed vs brushless thread like that, but
there is plenty of info here.
Definitive ESC, MOTOR, and BATTERY threads - RCC's top tech threads!

also Wikipedia
brushed http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brushed_DC_electric_motor
brushless http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brushle...electric_motor
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Old 09-07-2009, 11:57 AM   #9
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*rainout saturday*
not much testing,
ran the micro pro inside
didnt have the castle link to modify
yes the old "cogging issue" came into play.
didnt like that.

swapped out the mamba for the mongoose
today when i got to work, "wow"
what a difference,sensored -un sensored makes.

the lil weasel tore the snakes head off!!

hands down guys,if ya wanna go brushless
go with the mongoose!
no glitch or twitchin,stallin.

the mongoose has a decent drag brake,
i havent messed with it alot,still at work.

more specs to come..
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Old 09-08-2009, 11:05 AM   #10
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What is the ratings on the Novak Three-80 that you're using?

Will that motor work with a CC micro ESC? The Three-80 has an additional connector that I have no idea what's it's for...
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Old 09-08-2009, 11:10 AM   #11
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the motor itself is 18.5t
the wire is for the sensor -"sensored motor"
the esc is able to detect where the rotor is.
no the novak will not work on the cc micro
without the sensor properly.
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Thanks.. that's what I suspected, but I'm still learning....
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The mongoose really wakes this thing up. I run it in a SSS chassis (everything is nice and low) and punching the throttle at full steer will make the rig flip easily.
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and punching the throttle at full steer will make the rig flip easily.
yes! it will.
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What are the dimensions of the Novak Mongoose motor? I didn't see that on your posts. Since I just fried my motor, I wanna get one but need to make sure it fits my chassis.
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Old 09-09-2009, 03:32 PM   #16
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What are the dimensions of the Novak Mongoose motor? I didn't see that on your posts. Since I just fried my motor, I wanna get one but need to make sure it fits my chassis.
same size as stock motor-380 size.
just pulled one off the spin rack and matched it up.
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What is the pinion and spur sizes you are running?? I assume 60 stock spur and what pinion??
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What is the pinion and spur sizes you are running?? I assume 60 stock spur and what pinion??
the novac mongoose recommends a 15t pinion w/the 60t spur to keep temps down. I like this combo w/the shorter rock claws/chisels but w/the taller flatirons its a lil too fast for me. I just changed to a 62/13t setup & this worked great w/the flatirons but too slow w/my chisels (not enough wheel speed) Im currently runnin a 62/14t & I really like this combo, seems to have a lil more punch w/good wheel speed on the top end!!!
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Old 11-11-2009, 11:44 PM   #19
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Exactly what I needed, thank you!

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the novac mongoose recommends a 15t pinion w/the 60t spur to keep temps down. I like this combo w/the shorter rock claws/chisels but w/the taller flatirons its a lil too fast for me. I just changed to a 62/13t setup & this worked great w/the flatirons but too slow w/my chisels (not enough wheel speed) Im currently runnin a 62/14t & I really like this combo, seems to have a lil more punch w/good wheel speed on the top end!!!
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Exactly what I needed, thank you!
no problem, glad i could help!
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