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JerryIRacer 01-24-2019 07:57 PM

Re: WPL C14
 
What I would like to change yet is to get smaller tires and different offset wheels to have them more within wheel wells and lower suspension a bit for more scale look

Don Promillo 01-25-2019 02:46 AM

Re: WPL C14
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JerryIRacer (Post 5904443)
I am done with mine. I wanted to try some weathering techniques. It is harder than most tutorials promise it to be. My first attempt was complete failure. For some reason guy in the video was painting dirt streaks with a brush and they looked like like dirt streaks, but when I was doing the same thing it looked like paint brush marks :lol: I decided to wash the body off and start over.

I had no luck with painting streaks, it looked like crap in the end. What did work however was the hairspray and salt method. Unlike the streaking, salting was much much easier than I thought.

https://i.imgur.com/5whInr5.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/OUzLcTt.jpg

kincer 01-25-2019 05:06 AM

Re: WPL C14
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JerryIRacer (Post 5904443)
I am done with mine. I wanted to try some weathering techniques. It is harder than most tutorials promise it to be. My first attempt was complete failure. For some reason guy in the video was painting dirt streaks with a brush and they looked like like dirt streaks, but when I was doing the same thing it looked like paint brush marks [emoji38] I decided to wash the body off and start over. Initially I wanted some rust, a bit of dirt and some depth and age. It came out as completely dirty and neglected instead of old and used. I guess I will practice some more on next project - I am thinking about getting one of WPL 6x6s...



https://i.imgur.com/QTdWFP2h.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/38cImJ9h.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/dB0JHoqh.jpg

Truck is looking good! I'm going to do something to both of mine for weathering at some point after I get the drive train finished on the C14, I've come up with a way to put bearings on the stock axles that come with the brass ring and pinion still finishing that up so look for that soon.

CD02 01-25-2019 11:03 AM

Re: WPL C14
 
I just figured out (and tested) the candle wax method for waterproofing electronics. I tried it on my FS-GR3E receiver. You just melt some wax and let it drip on the board and all of the delicate electronic parts. My receiver works great after cleaning the contact prongs with a wire brush after covering the whole thing in wax I submerged it and it still works fine. If you want less of a mess, rubber cement works good too. Just make sure you let it dry first because it's flammable. I have tried both methods and they work great. Just make sure you cover every inch of the board.

I also got a text update on my truck's shipping. It's supposed to be here by monday. I also ordered an ESC on ebay

JerryIRacer 01-25-2019 08:35 PM

Re: WPL C14
 
Those axles I linked before are available on ebay for $75 a set:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Metal-Front...rk:39:pf:0&var

We are getting closer to reasonable price...

CD, good tip on sealing electronics, I just dont know if I want to go that far yet

CD02 01-26-2019 09:53 AM

Re: WPL C14
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JerryIRacer (Post 5904845)
Those axles I linked before are available on ebay for $75 a set:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Metal-Front...rk:39:pf:0&var

We are getting closer to reasonable price...

CD, good tip on sealing electronics, I just dont know if I want to go that far yet

I get those axles help keep the COG low and they get snagged on less stuff, But I would pay no more than $35 for a set of these. I would just recommend getting wheel weights.

As for the waterproofing experiments, I am super bored waiting for my truck to arrive so I figured I might as well prepare what I have for this build. And I also have a couple of extra receivers laying around. My test mule is one that I reversed powered with a 1s lipo and it blew a ceramic capacitor or something. So I figured I have nothing to lose. Somehow it still works. I am likely going to put that in my truck because if it fails while driving, I would rather it be in a crawler than flying down the street going 50mph in my 1/10 truck

Brake Weight 01-26-2019 10:58 AM

Wpl c14
 
BTW, those linked above are for a 6x6.



Less than $20usd better? You’ll have to rerun your plastic knuckles and I have no idea about the fitment of swapping the stock bits over.

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F113559462157

CD02 01-26-2019 11:29 AM

Re: Wpl c14
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brake Weight (Post 5904962)
BTW, those linked above are for a 6x6.



Less than $20usd better? You’ll have to rerun your plastic knuckles and I have no idea about the fitment of swapping the stock bits over.

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F113559462157

Yeah I just realized there were three of them. I don't see a difference between the two set's other than the middle axle on the 6x6. You honestly could just buy two sets for the c14 and put the original 6x6 plastic output covers. It would be cheaper, right?

JerryIRacer 01-26-2019 01:46 PM

Re: WPL C14
 
No, no, and no! Adding weight down low is only positive side effect. 'linked set' has options and set of front and rear axles is $75. Benefit of those over buying just housings and swapping in your own internals is:
1. You do not have to buy metal knuckles and out shafts . Those are included in 'my' set.
2. you do not have to buy metal differential, its already inside. Swapping plastic diff into metal housing is just silly.
3. There are no dog bones. They are replaced with universal joints. It is big deal as dog bones are wear item.

So, it seems a lot of money but it is several upgrades all packaged together and I yet have to sit down and sum it all up to find out where the break even point is.

Brake Weight 01-26-2019 04:20 PM

Re: WPL C14
 
These WPL rigs have decent to good bodies. The transmissions are lacking, IMO. The upgrade parts that are now available are no better than the Hot Racing clone parts that are/were available for any thing popular.

All that said, putting $75 worth of axles and gears under a $40 kit truck and pushing it with a sub standard tranny is too much for me. Maybe a tranny will come along soon and would justify the money, but currently I don’t see any.

I’ve got a C14 with a 370 planetary driving a transfer case and Losi Mini axles. The speed isn’t much but it has enough torque to crawl a little bit. I’ve driven it for maybe 15 minutes around my garage. Just doesn’t interest me like I thought it would.

I may move the chassis, planetary, and transfer case over to my new c24 whenever I get the leaf springs squared away.

CD02 01-26-2019 05:08 PM

Re: WPL C14
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JerryIRacer (Post 5905018)
No, no, and no! Adding weight down low is only positive side effect. 'linked set' has options and set of front and rear axles is $75. Benefit of those over buying just housings and swapping in your own internals is:
1. You do not have to buy metal knuckles and out shafts . Those are included in 'my' set.
2. you do not have to buy metal differential, its already inside. Swapping plastic diff into metal housing is just silly.
3. There are no dog bones. They are replaced with universal joints. It is big deal as dog bones are wear item.

So, it seems a lot of money but it is several upgrades all packaged together and I yet have to sit down and sum it all up to find out where the break even point is.

So does the B series come with brass ring and pinion gears now? I think WPL should fix the issues with their driveshafts. I like as a company how they are willing to improve the design of their product.

kincer 01-26-2019 07:14 PM

Re: WPL C14
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brake Weight (Post 5905044)
These WPL rigs have decent to good bodies. The transmissions are lacking, IMO. The upgrade parts that are now available are no better than the Hot Racing clone parts that are/were available for any thing popular.

All that said, putting $75 worth of axles and gears under a $40 kit truck and pushing it with a sub standard tranny is too much for me. Maybe a tranny will come along soon and would justify the money, but currently I don’t see any.

I’ve got a C14 with a 370 planetary driving a transfer case and Losi Mini axles. The speed isn’t much but it has enough torque to crawl a little bit. I’ve driven it for maybe 15 minutes around my garage. Just doesn’t interest me like I thought it would.

I may move the chassis, planetary, and transfer case over to my new c24 whenever I get the leaf springs squared away.



I agree on the stock transmissions, I’ve blown the gears out of three stock ones so far but the two speed has been holding up great for me, I’ve been running it hard and I’ve got about eight 3s packs through that so far with no issues. Pretty happy with it now it’s a lot of fun, will spin donuts on my snowy driveway in high and crawl real nice in low, like I’ve said before though it’s not my Trx Bronco but it’s a hoot for what it is now that I’ve got the bugs worked out.


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CD02 01-28-2019 10:32 AM

Re: WPL C14
 
So what kind of batteries do you guys use? I just got an ESC in the mail today and my truck should get here today as well. The ESC is getting ready to be waterproofed and I might do the servo as well when it gets here. For now I will just use the stock servo, but I have everything to get it running when it's finished being built

kincer 01-28-2019 11:00 AM

Re: WPL C14
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CD02 (Post 5905455)
So what kind of batteries do you guys use? I just got an ESC in the mail today and my truck should get here today as well. The ESC is getting ready to be waterproofed and I might do the servo as well when it gets here. For now I will just use the stock servo, but I have everything to get it running when it's finished being built

Go to hobby king and look for 850 to 1000 mah 2s with jst plugs if you got that small esc, I'm running a Hobbywing 1625 in mine so I have a 1700 3s also.

Brake Weight 01-28-2019 11:09 AM

Re: WPL C14
 
The HW1060 is a little bigger, similar price, and has a drag brake.

kincer 01-28-2019 12:10 PM

Re: WPL C14
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brake Weight (Post 5905467)
The HW1060 is a little bigger, similar price, and has a drag brake.

You are correct, I also bought two of those to try out, with the two speed though in low gear it will hold itself back pretty decent with 1625.

Prox 01-29-2019 12:34 AM

Re: WPL C14
 
Metal driveshafts arrived so I was finally able to install the bigger motor - great upgrade, its slower with more torque, just how it should be. That 2 speed tranny, not so much - I have the version with a spring and I dont know, maybe I mounted it wrong but the lower gear is engaged in default now, tensioning the spring all the time and since the arm holding shifting servo is held by 2 screws with already stripped threads the whole system does not a much of a good job holding the gear in.
As for the metal upgrades/steering mentioned above, it seemed OK after limiting steering angle but on first test drive with the new motor, one of the dog bones somehow managed to jump of its position in the cup and locked itself preventing any steering and movement, had to use pliers to push it back in place, so not much of a recommended upgrade this is..

kincer 01-29-2019 05:13 AM

Re: WPL C14
 
As for the metal upgrades/steering mentioned above, it seemed OK after limiting steering angle but on first test drive with the new motor, one of the dog bones somehow managed to jump of its position in the cup and locked itself preventing any steering and movement, had to use pliers to push it back in place, so not much of a recommended upgrade this is..[/QUOTE]

I found with mine the pins in the dog bones were loose and were flopping around and causing it to bind, I removed them and scored them up and filled the hole with CA glue and they are nice and tight now, I'm waiting on my 2 speed to test them out again.

CD02 01-29-2019 10:44 AM

Re: WPL C14
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kincer (Post 5905658)
As for the metal upgrades/steering mentioned above, it seemed OK after limiting steering angle but on first test drive with the new motor, one of the dog bones somehow managed to jump of its position in the cup and locked itself preventing any steering and movement, had to use pliers to push it back in place, so not much of a recommended upgrade this is..

I found with mine the pins in the dog bones were loose and were flopping around and causing it to bind, I removed them and scored them up and filled the hole with CA glue and they are nice and tight now, I'm waiting on my 2 speed to test them out again.

Do you know how to get more steering angle out of these?

kincer 01-29-2019 10:49 AM

Re: WPL C14
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CD02 (Post 5905739)
Do you know how to get more steering angle out of these?

You're only gonna get a degree or two more out of this setup over stock before it starts binding. My stock setup on my C24 turns great though, I ground the little stops of the stock knuckles and it turns great, the upgraded setup drive cups have too much taper to them, now I hear the drive cups on the set with the brass gears have less taper and work much better, the set I got has the black steel gears.

Brake Weight 01-30-2019 08:49 AM

Re: WPL C14
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brake Weight (Post 5895760)
I may try to find a pull start spring at the local small engine shop to see if I can make some new springs with.


I couldn’t find any locally so I went to fleaBay. Ordered on Dec 30, 2018. It arrived yesterday on Jan 29, 2019. It’s about .5mm wider than the WPL springs but I can easily make them fit.

Now to figure out how to make springs and get it all fit together just right.

JerryIRacer 01-30-2019 03:03 PM

Re: WPL C14
 
After watching this YT video I decided I want 3s in my truck. At the moment I am limited to 2s by my ESC ( Novak Spy ).

I need an advice: what to upgrade ESC to?

I have seen hobbywing 1060 mention couple of times here. 'But wait! for just a few dollars more' one can have brushless system like this:FastWin 2845 3930KV 4P Sensorless Brushless Motor & 35A Brushless ESC . What do you guys think? If not that one which one? kV number recommendation? What to look for? I dont really want it to look like that one. I want it to be able to crawl and be decently fast in 2nd gear. Thank you

Shape_Shifter 01-30-2019 03:21 PM

Re: WPL C14
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JerryIRacer (Post 5906235)
After watching this YT video I decided I want 3s in my truck. At the moment I am limited to 2s by my ESC ( Novak Spy ).

I need an advice: what to upgrade ESC to?

I have seen hobbywing 1060 mention couple of times here. 'But wait! for just a few dollars more' one can have brushless system like this:FastWin 2845 3930KV 4P Sensorless Brushless Motor & 35A Brushless ESC . What do you guys think? If not that one which one? kV number recommendation? What to look for? I dont really want it to look like that one. I want it to be able to crawl and be decently fast in 2nd gear. Thank you


Find a Tekin B1R brushed. For micro crawling there is nothing better IMO.

kincer 01-30-2019 03:34 PM

Re: WPL C14
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JerryIRacer (Post 5906235)
After watching this YT video I decided I want 3s in my truck. At the moment I am limited to 2s by my ESC ( Novak Spy ).



I need an advice: what to upgrade ESC to?



I have seen hobbywing 1060 mention couple of times here. 'But wait! for just a few dollars more' one can have brushless system like this:FastWin 2845 3930KV 4P Sensorless Brushless Motor & 35A Brushless ESC . What do you guys think? If not that one which one? kV number recommendation? What to look for? I dont really want it to look like that one. I want it to be able to crawl and be decently fast in 2nd gear. Thank you

I wish I could video mine for you, I'm running the Hobbywing 1625 esc with the 2 speed and 370 motor on 3s and it's plenty fast in high and crawls great in low, the 1625 doesn't have a drag brake but low gear will hold the truck surprisingly decent. I have a 1060 to try just haven't got around to it yet since this is working so well.

CD02 01-31-2019 01:13 PM

Re: WPL C14
 
Mine is finished now and it's a lot bigger than I thought. It's closer in size to my 1/12 scale than my 1/18 scale trucks. I already like it the way it is but I still want to upgrade to the 2 speed, once I get a tx that has a 3rd channel toggle switch. Like i said before, I had my eye on a used GT3B. I saw this video of a brushless c24 getting rowdy in a baseball field.

Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUgEBZ1E9DA&t=95s

kincer 01-31-2019 03:43 PM

Re: WPL C14
 
Here's a little peek of my C14 coming soon, gotta make a couple brackets and waiting on a few parts.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...2a65d0ab2b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...52bab30f12.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...541fa173be.jpg

Brake Weight 02-01-2019 08:41 PM

Re: WPL C14
 
I tried to make new leaf springs out of a pull start recoil spring but they have zero flex in them. Basically I would be making a brick. So I scrapped the project after just two springs. Perhaps on a larger and heavier rig they would work.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...957cca8cd2.jpg

So I went back to the web to order several sets of WPL leaves and came across this. This may work for what I want.
https://m.banggood.com/WPL-116-me%3C...p-1412340.html

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...6050b02038.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...ab563a5267.jpg

Note the extension they’ve made for the servo arm.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...61cad7ab2f.jpg

Timbo78 02-01-2019 09:41 PM

Re: WPL C14
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kincer (Post 5902000)
My C24 from Amazon was the updated version, my C14 from Banggood was also updated, however it came with brass pinions and plastic ring gears, somebody goofed there, i'm guessing. I ordered that from Banggood in early December so you'll probably get the newer version.

Mine came the same way. Plastic ring gear with a brass pinion. I ordered mine off eBay though a couple weeks ago. It has the updated tan transmission too. It also was missing one of the axle trusses. I ordered this leaf spring kit, and I'm gonna fit it on there to try to get a more scale look going. Also got a 2 speed trans on the way.

JerryIRacer 02-01-2019 09:48 PM

Re: WPL C14
 
Would those rear 6x6 longer leafs help?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/WPL-B16-B36-Ural-Truck-RC-CAR-spare-parts-Shock-absorber-steel-plate/

Timbo78 02-01-2019 10:08 PM

Re: WPL C14
 
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2619767

I'm using the Tower Pro MG90S, and found a sweet holder for it on thingiverse.

Timbo78 02-01-2019 10:16 PM

Re: WPL C14
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brake Weight (Post 5907008)
I tried to make new leaf springs out of a pull start recoil spring but they have zero flex in them. Basically I would be making a brick. So I scrapped the project after just two springs. Perhaps on a larger and heavier rig they would work.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...957cca8cd2.jpg

So I went back to the web to order several sets of WPL leaves and came across this. This may work for what I want.
https://m.banggood.com/WPL-116-me%3C...p-1412340.html

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...6050b02038.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...ab563a5267.jpg

Note the extension they’ve made for the servo arm.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...61cad7ab2f.jpg

I ordered that set on eBay today for $23.99 free shipping from the US.

[URL="http://https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F16 3455191824"]

kincer 02-02-2019 05:08 AM

Re: WPL C14
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brake Weight (Post 5907008)
I tried to make new leaf springs out of a pull start recoil spring but they have zero flex in them. Basically I would be making a brick. So I scrapped the project after just two springs. Perhaps on a larger and heavier rig they would work.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...957cca8cd2.jpg

So I went back to the web to order several sets of WPL leaves and came across this. This may work for what I want.
https://m.banggood.com/WPL-116-me%3C...p-1412340.html

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...6050b02038.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...ab563a5267.jpg

Note the extension they’ve made for the servo arm.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...61cad7ab2f.jpg

Those look like they would work, I still think the straight frame rails may work better but who knows, I just got the B1 kit so I'm gonna see how the Yota body works on it, I'll let you know, I know the cab will mount up but I don't think battery tray will work without modification.

CD02 02-07-2019 05:51 AM

Re: WPL C14
 
I just took mine out for a little play in the mud. I found out the hard way that there is nothing stopping the outside from getting inside the differentials. I finished rebuilding it and added some grease around the seals for extra protection. And, yes I got the brass ring and nylon pinion along with the tan gearbox. That's how the updated version comes I guess.

JerryIRacer 02-08-2019 05:18 AM

Re: WPL C14
 
Since there was no enthusiasm for brushless setup I have ordered 1625 ESC. I wanted 1060 but it was out of stock so I was switching items last minute and by mistake ordered wrong one... My diffs started clicking, I figured it is time for major overhaul. So far nothing fits: metal driveshafts do not fit on 2 speed transmission neither on diffs out drives. Everything is a 16th to long and a touch too thick. 2 speed with replaced servo interferes with rear suspension. Just awesome fun to deal with all of those one at the time...

kincer 02-08-2019 05:25 AM

Re: WPL C14
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JerryIRacer (Post 5908647)
Since there was no enthusiasm for brushless setup I have ordered 1625 ESC. I wanted 1060 but it was out of stock so I was switching items last minute and by mistake ordered wrong one... My diffs started clicking, I figured it is time for major overhaul. So far nothing fits: metal driveshafts do not fit on 2 speed transmission neither on diffs out drives. Everything is a 16th to long and a touch too thick. 2 speed with replaced servo interferes with rear suspension. Just awesome fun to deal with all of those one at the time...

Which driveshafts did you get? Mine fits great with 2spd. I have the one that look like CV joints. If you have metal links you'll have to reshape them to look like the stock plastic links.

The 1625 with the 2spd works great, just be sure to solder at least one capacitor on the 370 motor or it runs glitchy, 3 capacitors is ideal. It will hold on a steep hill in low gear like a drag brake.

JerryIRacer 02-08-2019 04:59 PM

Re: WPL C14
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kincer (Post 5908649)
Which driveshafts did you get? Mine fits great with 2spd. I have the one that look like CV joints. If you have metal links you'll have to reshape them to look like the stock plastic links.

The 1625 with the 2spd works great, just be sure to solder at least one capacitor on the 370 motor or it runs glitchy, 3 capacitors is ideal. It will hold on a steep hill in low gear like a drag brake.

Here is driveshaft I've got:https://i.imgur.com/mkBL7yVm.jpg It fits on one transmission out drive but not the other. Nothing a bit of dremeling cant fix.

I dont have a picture of servo horn touching suspension link. What I will try to do is reverse the servo, shorten the shifting fork and have shorter spring ( mini -z spare ). I hope to put it back together over the weekend.
https://i.imgur.com/j6tqm3Km.jpg

JerryIRacer 02-09-2019 07:51 PM

Re: WPL C14
 
I have it back in one piece :)
https://i.imgur.com/OiwSbInl.jpg
New rear diff internals with brass spur gear, metal driveshafts, 2 speed, 3s lipo, 1625 ESC. It took some machining and fiddling in drive line. No kidding those grub screws are serious issue as my shafts came apart several times during testing. I know I am overly excited with details as I am quite casual hobbyist.

Few problems took me by surprise - like ESC brake working in reverse and reverse seemed faster than forward. I had to switch motor wires and set throttle channel as Reversed.

Here is a photo of transmission servo clearing suspension links. Easy to imagine them interfering in out of the box layout.
https://i.imgur.com/bXjBP1ol.jpg

I am quite satisfied with speed range and overall snappiness of the setup. On hardwood floor I could almost drift. But I may look for a better 370 motor with better magnets. My magnetized screwdriver was able to pull screw of off motor casing. I think that means good 370 can have higher top speed and better low end torque over stock one.

kincer 02-10-2019 06:36 AM

Re: WPL C14
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JerryIRacer (Post 5909109)
I have it back in one piece :)

https://i.imgur.com/OiwSbInl.jpg

New rear diff internals with brass spur gear, metal driveshafts, 2 speed, 3s lipo, 1625 ESC. It took some machining and fiddling in drive line. No kidding those grub screws are serious issue as my shafts came apart several times during testing. I know I am overly excited with details as I am quite casual hobbyist.



Few problems took me by surprise - like ESC brake working in reverse and reverse seemed faster than forward. I had to switch motor wires and set throttle channel as Reversed.



Here is a photo of transmission servo clearing suspension links. Easy to imagine them interfering in out of the box layout.

https://i.imgur.com/bXjBP1ol.jpg



I am quite satisfied with speed range and overall snappiness of the setup. On hardwood floor I could almost drift. But I may look for a better 370 motor with better magnets. My magnetized screwdriver was able to pull screw of off motor casing. I think that means good 370 can have higher top speed and better low end torque over stock one.

I've seen in several different places on the web that those driveshafts just don't cut it in the long run, the CD style work much better, but if they're working for you that's great!

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CD02 02-10-2019 05:05 PM

Re: WPL C14
 
I really want to find an 80's or 90's 4runner body that will fit on my c14, Or a Mitsu Pajero 2.8. Any ideas? I Googled "1/16 4runner" and found nothing. I am also really curious if you can fit a small brushless motor in with the 2 speed tranny.

kincer 02-10-2019 05:24 PM

Re: WPL C14
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CD02 (Post 5909292)
I really want to find an 80's or 90's 4runner body that will fit on my c14, Or a Mitsu Pajero 2.8. Any ideas? I Googled "1/16 4runner" and found nothing. I am also really curious if you can fit a small brushless motor in with the 2 speed tranny.

I'm not sure about bodies, ebay is a good place for finding those. I believe they make brushless 370 motors but I don't see the need for one in these little trucks but hey I've seen a few on YouTube and they seem to work and look fun if you want that kind of speed, the brushed 370 motor on 3s is plenty fast for me.


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