Re: WPL C14 What I would like to change yet is to get smaller tires and different offset wheels to have them more within wheel wells and lower suspension a bit for more scale look |
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Re: WPL C14 I just figured out (and tested) the candle wax method for waterproofing electronics. I tried it on my FS-GR3E receiver. You just melt some wax and let it drip on the board and all of the delicate electronic parts. My receiver works great after cleaning the contact prongs with a wire brush after covering the whole thing in wax I submerged it and it still works fine. If you want less of a mess, rubber cement works good too. Just make sure you let it dry first because it's flammable. I have tried both methods and they work great. Just make sure you cover every inch of the board. I also got a text update on my truck's shipping. It's supposed to be here by monday. I also ordered an ESC on ebay |
Re: WPL C14 Those axles I linked before are available on ebay for $75 a set: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Metal-Front...rk:39:pf:0&var We are getting closer to reasonable price... CD, good tip on sealing electronics, I just dont know if I want to go that far yet |
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As for the waterproofing experiments, I am super bored waiting for my truck to arrive so I figured I might as well prepare what I have for this build. And I also have a couple of extra receivers laying around. My test mule is one that I reversed powered with a 1s lipo and it blew a ceramic capacitor or something. So I figured I have nothing to lose. Somehow it still works. I am likely going to put that in my truck because if it fails while driving, I would rather it be in a crawler than flying down the street going 50mph in my 1/10 truck |
Wpl c14 BTW, those linked above are for a 6x6. Less than $20usd better? You’ll have to rerun your plastic knuckles and I have no idea about the fitment of swapping the stock bits over. https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F113559462157 |
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Re: WPL C14 No, no, and no! Adding weight down low is only positive side effect. 'linked set' has options and set of front and rear axles is $75. Benefit of those over buying just housings and swapping in your own internals is: 1. You do not have to buy metal knuckles and out shafts . Those are included in 'my' set. 2. you do not have to buy metal differential, its already inside. Swapping plastic diff into metal housing is just silly. 3. There are no dog bones. They are replaced with universal joints. It is big deal as dog bones are wear item. So, it seems a lot of money but it is several upgrades all packaged together and I yet have to sit down and sum it all up to find out where the break even point is. |
Re: WPL C14 These WPL rigs have decent to good bodies. The transmissions are lacking, IMO. The upgrade parts that are now available are no better than the Hot Racing clone parts that are/were available for any thing popular. All that said, putting $75 worth of axles and gears under a $40 kit truck and pushing it with a sub standard tranny is too much for me. Maybe a tranny will come along soon and would justify the money, but currently I don’t see any. I’ve got a C14 with a 370 planetary driving a transfer case and Losi Mini axles. The speed isn’t much but it has enough torque to crawl a little bit. I’ve driven it for maybe 15 minutes around my garage. Just doesn’t interest me like I thought it would. I may move the chassis, planetary, and transfer case over to my new c24 whenever I get the leaf springs squared away. |
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I agree on the stock transmissions, I’ve blown the gears out of three stock ones so far but the two speed has been holding up great for me, I’ve been running it hard and I’ve got about eight 3s packs through that so far with no issues. Pretty happy with it now it’s a lot of fun, will spin donuts on my snowy driveway in high and crawl real nice in low, like I’ve said before though it’s not my Trx Bronco but it’s a hoot for what it is now that I’ve got the bugs worked out. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk |
Re: WPL C14 So what kind of batteries do you guys use? I just got an ESC in the mail today and my truck should get here today as well. The ESC is getting ready to be waterproofed and I might do the servo as well when it gets here. For now I will just use the stock servo, but I have everything to get it running when it's finished being built |
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Re: WPL C14 The HW1060 is a little bigger, similar price, and has a drag brake. |
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Re: WPL C14 Metal driveshafts arrived so I was finally able to install the bigger motor - great upgrade, its slower with more torque, just how it should be. That 2 speed tranny, not so much - I have the version with a spring and I dont know, maybe I mounted it wrong but the lower gear is engaged in default now, tensioning the spring all the time and since the arm holding shifting servo is held by 2 screws with already stripped threads the whole system does not a much of a good job holding the gear in. As for the metal upgrades/steering mentioned above, it seemed OK after limiting steering angle but on first test drive with the new motor, one of the dog bones somehow managed to jump of its position in the cup and locked itself preventing any steering and movement, had to use pliers to push it back in place, so not much of a recommended upgrade this is.. |
Re: WPL C14 As for the metal upgrades/steering mentioned above, it seemed OK after limiting steering angle but on first test drive with the new motor, one of the dog bones somehow managed to jump of its position in the cup and locked itself preventing any steering and movement, had to use pliers to push it back in place, so not much of a recommended upgrade this is..[/QUOTE] I found with mine the pins in the dog bones were loose and were flopping around and causing it to bind, I removed them and scored them up and filled the hole with CA glue and they are nice and tight now, I'm waiting on my 2 speed to test them out again. |
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I couldn’t find any locally so I went to fleaBay. Ordered on Dec 30, 2018. It arrived yesterday on Jan 29, 2019. It’s about .5mm wider than the WPL springs but I can easily make them fit. Now to figure out how to make springs and get it all fit together just right. |
Re: WPL C14 After watching this YT video I decided I want 3s in my truck. At the moment I am limited to 2s by my ESC ( Novak Spy ). I need an advice: what to upgrade ESC to? I have seen hobbywing 1060 mention couple of times here. 'But wait! for just a few dollars more' one can have brushless system like this:FastWin 2845 3930KV 4P Sensorless Brushless Motor & 35A Brushless ESC . What do you guys think? If not that one which one? kV number recommendation? What to look for? I dont really want it to look like that one. I want it to be able to crawl and be decently fast in 2nd gear. Thank you |
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Find a Tekin B1R brushed. For micro crawling there is nothing better IMO. |
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Re: WPL C14 Mine is finished now and it's a lot bigger than I thought. It's closer in size to my 1/12 scale than my 1/18 scale trucks. I already like it the way it is but I still want to upgrade to the 2 speed, once I get a tx that has a 3rd channel toggle switch. Like i said before, I had my eye on a used GT3B. I saw this video of a brushless c24 getting rowdy in a baseball field. Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUgEBZ1E9DA&t=95s |
Re: WPL C14 Here's a little peek of my C14 coming soon, gotta make a couple brackets and waiting on a few parts.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...2a65d0ab2b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...52bab30f12.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...541fa173be.jpg |
Re: WPL C14 I tried to make new leaf springs out of a pull start recoil spring but they have zero flex in them. Basically I would be making a brick. So I scrapped the project after just two springs. Perhaps on a larger and heavier rig they would work. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...957cca8cd2.jpg So I went back to the web to order several sets of WPL leaves and came across this. This may work for what I want. https://m.banggood.com/WPL-116-me%3C...p-1412340.html https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...6050b02038.jpg https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...ab563a5267.jpg Note the extension they’ve made for the servo arm. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...61cad7ab2f.jpg |
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Re: WPL C14 Would those rear 6x6 longer leafs help? https://www.aliexpress.com/item/WPL-B16-B36-Ural-Truck-RC-CAR-spare-parts-Shock-absorber-steel-plate/ |
Re: WPL C14 https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2619767 I'm using the Tower Pro MG90S, and found a sweet holder for it on thingiverse. |
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Re: WPL C14 I just took mine out for a little play in the mud. I found out the hard way that there is nothing stopping the outside from getting inside the differentials. I finished rebuilding it and added some grease around the seals for extra protection. And, yes I got the brass ring and nylon pinion along with the tan gearbox. That's how the updated version comes I guess. |
Re: WPL C14 Since there was no enthusiasm for brushless setup I have ordered 1625 ESC. I wanted 1060 but it was out of stock so I was switching items last minute and by mistake ordered wrong one... My diffs started clicking, I figured it is time for major overhaul. So far nothing fits: metal driveshafts do not fit on 2 speed transmission neither on diffs out drives. Everything is a 16th to long and a touch too thick. 2 speed with replaced servo interferes with rear suspension. Just awesome fun to deal with all of those one at the time... |
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The 1625 with the 2spd works great, just be sure to solder at least one capacitor on the 370 motor or it runs glitchy, 3 capacitors is ideal. It will hold on a steep hill in low gear like a drag brake. |
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I dont have a picture of servo horn touching suspension link. What I will try to do is reverse the servo, shorten the shifting fork and have shorter spring ( mini -z spare ). I hope to put it back together over the weekend. https://i.imgur.com/j6tqm3Km.jpg |
Re: WPL C14 I have it back in one piece :) https://i.imgur.com/OiwSbInl.jpg New rear diff internals with brass spur gear, metal driveshafts, 2 speed, 3s lipo, 1625 ESC. It took some machining and fiddling in drive line. No kidding those grub screws are serious issue as my shafts came apart several times during testing. I know I am overly excited with details as I am quite casual hobbyist. Few problems took me by surprise - like ESC brake working in reverse and reverse seemed faster than forward. I had to switch motor wires and set throttle channel as Reversed. Here is a photo of transmission servo clearing suspension links. Easy to imagine them interfering in out of the box layout. https://i.imgur.com/bXjBP1ol.jpg I am quite satisfied with speed range and overall snappiness of the setup. On hardwood floor I could almost drift. But I may look for a better 370 motor with better magnets. My magnetized screwdriver was able to pull screw of off motor casing. I think that means good 370 can have higher top speed and better low end torque over stock one. |
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Re: WPL C14 I really want to find an 80's or 90's 4runner body that will fit on my c14, Or a Mitsu Pajero 2.8. Any ideas? I Googled "1/16 4runner" and found nothing. I am also really curious if you can fit a small brushless motor in with the 2 speed tranny. |
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