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Just ordered a yellow RTR:)


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yeah I saw the thread over on rcgroups by the guy in China who made the videos of the truck on youtube in the drainage ditch. Servo's are cheap and easy to swap if that's the case. I think the truck is certainly worth $30 just as a drive-able display model, it looks rad!

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I couldn’t resist either, just ordered up the “kit”. Can pull the radio, etc from my VMG(two!) that sits unloved.

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I almost buy one. luckily I've search enough before i pull my trigger...Anyway small car:ror:

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I'm guessing and mostly hoping that the kit would be set up to mount the 3 wire conventional servo whereas the RTR is not. It wasn't hard to mod on the B-1 though. I little knife work and it fit decent. I did Gorilla Glue it down vs sorting some sort of way to bolt or strap it in place.

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Here's an idea: take the body and offer it up to a ECX Barrage or FTX Outback.
Make it look like a TF2 on wraith axles

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...ce86658dbf.jpg

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Here's a brand new review of the RTR. Something tells me there aren't any of these trucks in the USA yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4DZsM6CJzU

I ordered a FlySky receiver, a small 30A Hobbywing ESC (meant for planes I think) and a cheap 6V NIMH battery pack. From what I've read, that should be all I need for whenever the kit finally arrives.

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Was that a NiCd battery? I had no idea those were still made. :lmao:

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Don't most plane and heli ESCs lack reverse?

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If this pic is correct I’ll be going all in with some china gear.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...8c2d6e612f.jpg

This is basically a Sumo clone for less than $50.
https://www.banggood.com/WLtoys-2443...-1083552.html?
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...06db6923fa.jpg

Then add some of Fungi’s offset wheels should bring it flush or a little past flush.
https://www.shapeways.com/shops/lynxmicrotech

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I thought this truck uses the same axles as the other 1/16 WL trucks?
Either way the crawler you posted isn't a sumo clone. It's a Losi micro clone.
It has worm gear axles and is supposedly identical to the ECX and HSP version.
For sumo axles look for the redcat sumo, 1/24 Reely, HBX devastor, or even the new 1/24 barrage which has axles with identical dimensions and the same ring gear as the sumo.
All of these are only 4" wide however. I'd think going an extra inch and a half would give you a horrible scrub radius.
The RC4WD 1/18 mini gelande yota 2's are an extra 1/4" over the sumo, but still seems short. If anything I'd widen the sumo/HBX/Barrage axles. That would give a more true to scale pumpkin. There may still be pix of the mod in the micro crawler sub forum

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I couldn’t find the pics. Well, that one is on order anyway. I do have the HBX one, too.

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Oh no, you may be right! It says it has brake but no mention of reverse. :oops:

I ordered one of these (link) just in case. Nothing but the finest $4 electronics for this truck :mrgreen:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1x-Syntheti...8AAOSw5VtaJiLC

If nothing else works out I'll get one of these (pictured) because I know they work and they're still less than $10. Seems like overkill for this application though, and I wanted to try something different.

https://img.banggood.com/images/uplo...KU123632.6.jpg

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I have a similar version of that red 30amp esc, but it's listed as 10amp. I doubt it's 30amp
I also use the $8 or so xys-bl20a "without brake" which does have a brake, it just means it has no reverse delay
These are great for micro crawlers.

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The big one is too big. Maybe if you dehoused it, it might tuck away somewhere but it's overkill. That'll push a light 540 buggy and is good on 380 cans.

This one is the one to get. The non switched version of what is linked. The switch is fine but could possibly limit the mountable areas. I tried one in a Losi McRC and it was slightly more difficult to mount vs the non switched between the chassis plates and tranny. Doable, but not necessary.

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Yeah mine are the non switched version, but the switch on the board is to toggle between reverse delay on or off I'm told. The actual power switch can be removed like any other ESC

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You're talking about the small switch on the edge of the board, right? What does that switch do? I ask because I'm expecting it to show up without instructions.

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Fwiw for those that haven't seen the xys before. Left to right
Castle Mamba Micro X, Mamba Micro pro, Mamba Micro pro decased, micro sidewinder V2, micro sidewinder, Xys-bl20a, Losi micro crawler/trekker ESC/RX unit decased, Losi unit with case. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...a6d992718c.jpg

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Check my previous reply

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Correct. I ended up using that switched one I had on a Losi McRally using a n60 heli tail rotor motor and a Maisto Samba van. Enough torque to jump diff gears full throttle take off. Not very good off the hardpack though.

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Will any other transmission work with the Losi/Slickrock axles? There are used axles available but I haven’t seen any trannys. I know they’re geared different and I don’t want a basher.

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I don't know about the slickrock/Losi mini. Those are 1.55 1/18 minis the ones I mentioned are 1.0 1/24 micro.
I'd imagine you could use any transmission with the right driveshaft ends. As far as gearing you could always use a smaller pinion and larger spur.

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That’s what I was thinking on the Mini axles. But I didn’t wanna spend $75 on axles and then need as much $$ in building a tranny from parts bags. The ECX/HSP/RGT axles are nonexistent by themselves.

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I went ahead and pulled the fleaBay trigger on some axles. My notes have the LMC/Slickrock axles to be 140mm hex to hex. The B-1 and this C14 use the same axles but the C14 body looks to be slightly narrower. Hopefully the wheels/tires aren't completely poked outside the body but I'll be happy if it looks like a TF2 on ar60s, too, just so long as it performs.

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Found this 370 canned planetary and will see if it’ll work. 6v=322rpm and 12v=630rpm. Should be around 400rpm on 2s. Then use a 1:1 transfer case to the axles.

Research says the LMC trans is 7.5 to 1. Combined with stock 14/69 gears to make 32.56 to 1. Theoretically with 2s and a 2100kV motor that’s about 515rpm to the axles. So I’ll need a different motor or go 3s. Or it may just sit pretty on a shelf and I can do a mini comp crawler. LOL.

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F253323396530

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If I buy a RTR version of one of these, how hard is it to swap in a proportional steering servo with the electronics that come with it?

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You’ll need a new ESC and Rx, too. May as well get the kit with a servo already with it.

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So the esc/rx is one whole unit. And you can't just plug up the regular newer servo?

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I typed in the rc18off code on the 31.99 kit and it made the price go up to 35.xx???

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I had the WPL-B and I didn't like it. What electronics are you guys going to use in the kits?

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Yes, the Rx/ESC is one unit and is junk. You may be able to solder in a proper Rx but when you can get a $6 10a or 20a ESC why even bother. There's plenty of room for every thing to fit inside.

Honestly it's toy grade junk. The scale bodies are the only thing these WPLs have going for them. They're an oddball size, too. If there were a little bigger or a little smaller then it'd be wildly more popular because you could run micro axles or mini axles, something solid and accessible. I ordered some Losi Mini axles and will give it a go. Looking forward to everything showing up to my mailbox but dreading it at the same time. I'd love to make this work but I am a Yota fan, too.

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I guess aslong as the transmission is decent I'd be willing to buy it and tinker with it. I'm not a huge yota fan but I think it looks awesome.

Does anyone know how well the trannys hold up?

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Honestly, the transmission is junk, too. It's too fast and the driveshafts are crap. The entire drivetrain is junk, IMHO. The chassis and body are about all that's usable if you actually wanna crawl with it. If you want to scale it out and put it on a shelf to look at, then go for it. There are several threads on RCG about it. 3D print file for a new tranny to use two n20 geared motors to drive each axle. Best and cheapest alternative to make it work ASAP. I'm getting one printed for either the GAZ or the B-1.

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So from the sounds of it - it's a 35 dollar car that needs another 70 bucks easily to "crawl"

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Sounds like every rtr rig lol

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No I didn't pay 300 for a scx10 and spend 600 on it to get it to crawl. I know in comparing toy grade to hobby but I was hoping it would be semi decent out of the box.

Like maybe just needs new axles and servo.

Doesn't sound like it

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I was thinking that the Rc4wd 1/18 Yota axles might work, and also, I learned that a micro servo fits almost perfectly in the steering gear’s place.


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What’s the deal with the model with the bed? I’ve seen it on the boxes in YT videos but never seen the actual full bodied truck.


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A micro servo fits in place of the steering servos place is that what you mean.


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Yes not perfectly but it fits in the area. You could use something like an scx10 servo mount, or hot glue or double sides tape because of the low weight of the little truck.


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