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outofreach · 08-25-2009, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by spiked3

You can take the route I did. Read every thread on rccrawler you can, try and determine a consensus on what would be well spent money. Buy an axial and said selected hop up parts. Test it, tune it, think that it is doing pretty well. Go to a comp. Never once make it through a start gate. Spend more on hop ups. still never make it through a gate. Realize that most people are running hand made tires, wheels, and have access to 6 axis CNC machines at work. Give up on any thoughts of comping. Play at the local park. Total costs, about $2k.

I fully agree - spending money will not make you better - unless you are buying a college engineering degree and a CNC machining center (what about $200,000+?).

Or, buy a box stock 1/8 gas car. install a box stock .21 motor and radio. Win US Nationals with it - 0 hop ups. One sport is about the driver, one sport is about engineering, 2 totally different sports.

If this is a *&^% measuring contest I win

jamesdicken · 08-25-2009, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by outofreach

If this is a *&^% measuring contest I win

no you wouldn't!

outofreach · 08-25-2009, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jamesdicken

no you wouldn't!

You misunderstood the me, I didn't mean how many I measured.......

jamesdicken · 08-25-2009, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by outofreach

You misunderstood the me, I didn't mean how many I measured.......

ha, nicely done sir!

outofreach · 08-25-2009, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jamesdicken

ha, nicely done sir!

All in fun

Now where were we

I have a berg and x-crawler each with tons of hours in them and $1,500 plus each and they both still suck.

jamesdicken · 08-25-2009, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by outofreach

All in fun

Now where were we

I have a berg and x-crawler each with tons of hours in them and $1,500 plus each and they both still suck.

thats why i ditched my axial!

Pdog7 · 08-25-2009, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by spiked3

A straight on incline, or an inclined side crawl - neither one take ANY driver skill, yet it seems to be popular at the comps to see how far they can push them. If the comps would concentrate more on driver skill, I'd agree, but they don't.
Not saying you can not have fun, I do just about every weekend. But it's not at a comp.

I disagree, picking a line up the incline or across the face of an off camber rock take driver skill but, another large aspect of the hobby is rig set-up. Most of the time off camber side hills and inclines are designed to test the rig. If all the lines were doable by a box stock axial it would get boring really fast. Gives you something to work for.

spiked3 · 08-25-2009, 02:48 PM

Well im not gonna argue - we can agree to disagree. But I will leave you with a prediction; crawling may (despite itself) get big enough for the powers that be to start specing tires, wheels and inserts. I've seen it happen before in other rc competition, and for the exact same reasons. Some people consider it 'tuning your rig' , but it will turn off the masses, and the vendors are driven by volume, vendors not happy; sport dies. Or maybe becomes what some people would prefer - no off the shelf participation, custom made only. I dont think there is anything wrong with that, there are several, low volume RC sports as such - 1 meter sailing (hand built from plugs only), open wheel dirt oval (hand built frames/etc/.21 engines) - the just never get many people into them. Just depends on where you want the sport to go.

Code454 · 08-25-2009, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by spiked3

Well im not gonna argue - we can agree to disagree. But I will leave you with a prediction; crawling may (despite itself) get big enough for the powers that be to start specing tires, wheels and inserts. I've seen it happen before in other rc competition, and for the exact same reasons. Some people consider it 'tuning your rig' , but it will turn off the masses, and the vendors are driven by volume, vendors not happy; sport dies. Or maybe becomes what some people would prefer - no off the shelf participation, custom made only. I dont think there is anything wrong with that, there are several, low volume RC sports as such - 1 meter sailing (hand built from plugs only), open wheel dirt oval (hand built frames/etc/.21 engines) - the just never get many people into them. Just depends on where you want the sport to go.

sounds like your mad because nitro vehicles have died and electric and crawlers have jumped up....noob

bige · 08-25-2009, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by crashfab

Thats true--but I wasn't talking buying--refering to building a rig.. Some of us have more into our axles as some have into there whole rig,lol..

X2

....lol

crash · 08-25-2009, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by spiked3

Well im not gonna argue - we can agree to disagree. But I will leave you with a prediction; crawling may (despite itself) get big enough for the powers that be to start specing tires, wheels and inserts. I've seen it happen before in other rc competition, and for the exact same reasons. Some people consider it 'tuning your rig' , but it will turn off the masses, and the vendors are driven by volume, vendors not happy; sport dies. Or maybe becomes what some people would prefer - no off the shelf participation, custom made only. I dont think there is anything wrong with that, there are several, low volume RC sports as such - 1 meter sailing (hand built from plugs only), open wheel dirt oval (hand built frames/etc/.21 engines) - the just never get many people into them. Just depends on where you want the sport to go.

LEft field is over there

Nate08 · 08-26-2009, 05:34 PM

Was there actually a point to any of this? :?

Karadjas · 08-27-2009, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by spiked3

Well im not gonna argue - we can agree to disagree. But I will leave you with a prediction; crawling may (despite itself) get big enough for the powers that be to start specing tires, wheels and inserts. I've seen it happen before in other rc competition, and for the exact same reasons. Some people consider it 'tuning your rig' , but it will turn off the masses, and the vendors are driven by volume, vendors not happy; sport dies. Or maybe becomes what some people would prefer - no off the shelf participation, custom made only. I dont think there is anything wrong with that, there are several, low volume RC sports as such - 1 meter sailing (hand built from plugs only), open wheel dirt oval (hand built frames/etc/.21 engines) - the just never get many people into them. Just depends on where you want the sport to go.

Here, you dropped these: [offtopic] [/offtopic]

sddill · 08-27-2009, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by spiked3

Well im not gonna argue - we can agree to disagree. But I will leave you with a prediction; crawling may (despite itself) get big enough for the powers that be to start specing tires, wheels and inserts. I've seen it happen before in other rc competition, and for the exact same reasons. Some people consider it 'tuning your rig' , but it will turn off the masses, and the vendors are driven by volume, vendors not happy; sport dies. Or maybe becomes what some people would prefer - no off the shelf participation, custom made only. I dont think there is anything wrong with that, there are several, low volume RC sports as such - 1 meter sailing (hand built from plugs only), open wheel dirt oval (hand built frames/etc/.21 engines) - the just never get many people into them. Just depends on where you want the sport to go.

Gosh not again

spiked3 · 08-27-2009, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by sddill

Gosh not again

Didn't know I needed your permission to express my opinion. My apologies superior crawler king.

carver · 08-27-2009, 08:20 PM

Here you go, These expensive enough for you! Twin Bergs

spiked3 · 08-27-2009, 08:55 PM

It's just an opinion. some people feel it is an attack on them or something. Instead of discussing it they just resort to childish replies.

Anyhow, it's not like I dont understand RC competition. I have been in RC since 77, 1/4 owner in a $2million/yr RC hobby store, Sponsor and Engineer for 2001 National 1/10 touring car champ, and participant in many heated discussions with ROAR executives - i've been around. I don't need a newb telling me I'm mad about something when I have never expressed any thing like that. I've said it over and over, if I wanted to compete I would (I have a CNC in my spare bedroom for petes sakes), I don't want to, its too much effort for where I am in life. That doesn't mean I don't have a valid opinion about how many new people feel about the sport.

h2oboy21 · 08-29-2009, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by crashfab

This shits cheap compared to what some of us have into our 1:1's

That is so true 4 me! I have/had(sold it) 15k on a 5k jeep wrangler! Lift, 3 sets of tires, kc lights, hard top and a whole lot more!

h2oboy21 · 09-22-2009, 05:36 PM

There is an artical in the crawler mag. He added 1,200 to a losi mini? Why? What a waste!!

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Originally Posted by spiked3

Didn't know I needed your permission to express my opinion. My apologies superior crawler king.

Harley · 09-22-2009, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by h2oboy21

There is an artical in the crawler mag. He added 1,200 to a losi mini? Why? What a waste!!

Really not that hard to do, start adding everything up that you would want. Nothing is "cheap" in this hobby.

08-27-2009, 08:20 PM	#56
carver Rock Crawler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: San Marcos Posts: 835	BOooM!! Here you go, These expensive enough for you! Twin Bergs

08-25-2009, 02:48 PM	#48
spiked3 Newbie Join Date: May 2009 Location: US Posts: 26	Well im not gonna argue - we can agree to disagree. But I will leave you with a prediction; crawling may (despite itself) get big enough for the powers that be to start specing tires, wheels and inserts. I've seen it happen before in other rc competition, and for the exact same reasons. Some people consider it 'tuning your rig' , but it will turn off the masses, and the vendors are driven by volume, vendors not happy; sport dies. Or maybe becomes what some people would prefer - no off the shelf participation, custom made only. I dont think there is anything wrong with that, there are several, low volume RC sports as such - 1 meter sailing (hand built from plugs only), open wheel dirt oval (hand built frames/etc/.21 engines) - the just never get many people into them. Just depends on where you want the sport to go.

08-26-2009, 05:34 PM	#52
Nate08 Rock Crawler Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Port Angeles Posts: 656	Was there actually a point to any of this? :?

08-27-2009, 08:55 PM	#57
spiked3 Newbie Join Date: May 2009 Location: US Posts: 26	It's just an opinion. some people feel it is an attack on them or something. Instead of discussing it they just resort to childish replies. Anyhow, it's not like I dont understand RC competition. I have been in RC since 77, 1/4 owner in a $2million/yr RC hobby store, Sponsor and Engineer for 2001 National 1/10 touring car champ, and participant in many heated discussions with ROAR executives - i've been around. I don't need a newb telling me I'm mad about something when I have never expressed any thing like that. I've said it over and over, if I wanted to compete I would (I have a CNC in my spare bedroom for petes sakes), I don't want to, its too much effort for where I am in life. That doesn't mean I don't have a valid opinion about how many new people feel about the sport.

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