Wake up body manufacturers!

[JatoTheRipper]

Originally Posted by tjohanne

Come on.. If they can make the most powerful ESCs, brushless systems, kits, tires etc., I think they can manage to pre-cut a lexan body. I've seen greater bodies made by drunk, lonely guys on a cheap 3d printer on a Saturday night. I've seen fantastically awesome 1/32 plastic model airplanes with the most insane details you can imagine mass produced in a worn-out, poor, sad old workshop in the Czech Republic, by companies with no money or resources other than their own skill. And you're telling me Axial or Proline are not capable of offering more than a few different uncut lexan bodies?

Please..
And why do you bring me into the equation? I don't possess any factory or engineering teams like these RC companies..

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I wasn't talking about precut bodies. Those are for the RTR crowd. But there are companies that offer precut bodies. I was explaining why there aren't as many options as you would like or as many options as small, plastic model kits.

Do you have any idea how much molds for 1/10th scale bodies cost? It's not cheap. It would probably blow your mind.

You can't make lexan have the same details as hard plastic. I'm sure that 1/32 plane was not lexan. Most people in the hobby do not want hard bodies.

You said it was easy so I thought anybody could do it...

[tjohanne]

This guy can make a body in minutes. For a big company with means, this is the simplest thing in the world..
https://youtu.be/ooVBJbYac_4

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[tjohanne]

Originally Posted by JatoTheRipper

You can't make lexan have the same details as hard plastic. I'm sure that 1/32 plane was not lexan. Most people in the hobby do not want hard bodies.

I know many scalers would appreciate hard body options. I like Proline and Axial and I like their bodies. I'm just saying the selection is so small. I just wish a wider range to choose from. They don't all have to be licensed.


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[CM9000]

whole lot of whining in here. if you cant "fix" the "problem" don't whine about it.

I like big tires.

[tjohanne]

Originally Posted by CM9000

whole lot of whining in here. if you cant "fix" the "problem" don't whine about it.

I like big tires.

Is it not allowed to express one's wishes for the hobby? Personally I like hard bodies, but my local hobby shops have none to choose from. And internationally it seems that 99% of hard bodies = Hilux and the remaining 1% is a Chinese toy Jeep. That's not whining, it's just a status report. I wish there were more options.

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[JatoTheRipper]

Originally Posted by tjohanne

This guy can make a body in minutes. For a big company with means, this is the simplest thing in the world..
https://youtu.be/ooVBJbYac_4

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That's vacuum forming. It produces shit bodies with faint details. Just buy a Team Blue Groove body and you'll see what vacuum forming gets you.

And producing one body on the floor of your house is different than mass production.

Originally Posted by tjohanne

I know many scalers would appreciate hard body options. I like Proline and Axial and I like their bodies. I'm just saying the selection is so small. I just wish a wider range to choose from. They don't all have to be licensed.


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A small portion of scalers like hard bodies. That's a small portion of an already small niche of a small hobby. I think that's why we don't see many hard body options.

I agree with you. The selection of RC bodies is small. I wish there would be a selection like that of 1/24th scale models. I just don't think it's going to ever happen.

[tjohanne]

Originally Posted by JatoTheRipper

That's vacuum forming. It produces shit bodies with faint details. Just buy a Team Blue Groove body and you'll see what vacuum forming gets you.

And producing one body on the floor of your house is different than mass production.


A small portion of scalers like hard bodies. That's a small portion of an already small niche of a small hobby. I think that's why we don't see many hard body options.

I agree with you. The selection of RC bodies is small. I wish there would be a selection like that of 1/24th scale models. I just don't think it's going to ever happen.

Yes, I agree.
Another topi: Would be cool if hard body supporters would crowd fund a nice new body for the scx10 or universal I wonder what it would take.

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[CM9000]

Originally Posted by tjohanne

Is it not allowed to express one's wishes for the hobby? Personally I like hard bodies, but my local hobby shops have none to choose from. And internationally it seems that 99% of hard bodies = Hilux and the remaining 1% is a Chinese toy Jeep. That's not whining, it's just a status report. I wish there were more options.

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Tamiya has had the most produced hardbodies for an rc company. wrangler, f350, hilux, tundra, brat, and some other old school stuff.


only thing you might see stocked in your lhs ever is a rc4wd kit with a hardbody.

do some research. don't look on just the first page either.

and it does sound like whining to me haha. need your hardbody fix? make one.

[JatoTheRipper]

Originally Posted by tjohanne

Yes, I agree.
Another topi: Would be cool if hard body supporters would crowd fund a nice new body for the scx10 or universal I wonder what it would take.

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I'm pretty sure that crowd fund would need to reach six figures unless the person wanted to put out some of their own money.

I've seen simple molds cost $30,000.

[tjohanne]

Originally Posted by CM9000

Tamiya has had the most produced hardbodies for an rc company. wrangler, f350, hilux, tundra, brat, and some other old school stuff.

Yes, and they are cool. Most tamiya stuff is cool..

only thing you might see stocked in your lhs ever is a rc4wd kit with a hardbody.

Exactly. And I don't like rc4wd.

and it does sound like whining to me haha.

Stop harassing me!

your hardbody fix? make one.

That's stressful and time consuming. But I really do like the look of the upcoming hpi venture. I'm happy to see more options on the market, also lexan


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[JatoTheRipper]

Originally Posted by tjohanne

Yes, and they are cool. Most tamiya stuff is cool..

Tamiy does cool and fun better than anybody. Their lexan and hard bodies are the best in the business.

Originally Posted by tjohanne

Exactly. And I don't like rc4wd.

Me neither! Something we can agree on.

Originally Posted by tjohanne

That's stressful and time consuming. But I really do like the look of the upcoming hpi venture. I'm happy to see more options on the market, also lexan

Tamiya has had the FJ Cruiser body for years so that body is nothing new... It's on the CR-01 and CC-01.

[fr8cture]

I just thought I would pitch in and say I got two scx10 IIs and a ascender axled rig all with track width under 230mm. I think your number is a little high..

[Ditchrat]

Originally Posted by tjohanne

Personally I like hard bodies, but my local hobby shops have none to choose from. And internationally it seems that 99% of hard bodies = Hilux and the remaining 1% is a Chinese toy Jeep.

Lest see you have
D90/D110 plus d90/d119 pick up both over seas and American suppliers.
Chinese Jeep you mentioned
Chinese Jeep Cherokee
Killer body Toyota land cruiser pick up
A late 80's bronco
Toyota 4 runner
LC80 land cruiser
there 4 different unimogs floating around
a couple 6x6 bodies.
a vacuum formed ABS beetle
a 8x8 truck
Various bodies taken from toy grade RC's
Plus some older offering that might pop up.

It just takes some searching. I found a few of them before someone gave me a D90 they didn't want.

[tjohanne]

Originally Posted by Ditchrat

Lest see you have
D90/D110 plus d90/d119 pick up both over seas and American suppliers.
Chinese Jeep you mentioned
Chinese Jeep Cherokee
Killer body Toyota land cruiser pick up
A late 80's bronco
Toyota 4 runner
LC80 land cruiser
there 4 different unimogs floating around
a couple 6x6 bodies.
a vacuum formed ABS beetle
a 8x8 truck
Various bodies taken from toy grade RC's
Plus some older offering that might pop up.

It just takes some searching. I found a few of them before someone gave me a D90 they didn't want.

I know there are some hard bodies out there. I just find it a bit awkward that for a popular platform like the scx10 you have to resort to some generic toy from China.

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[tjohanne]

Originally Posted by JatoTheRipper

It's not easy to produce plastic 1/10 bodies. Not at all. You have to get a lawyer to license the bodies from the auto manufacturers

That is only true if you want to go for a body from one of the big names. As a part time designer myself, I'd give my design up for free. I see it as free advertising, actually. I have designed a car which I call "The Schwabbernickel". It does not exist in full size.. yet.


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[JoelTGM]

Yeah seriously it'd be super easy for them to design some interesting bodies and then they're printing money. Not much but it barely costs anything to produce and the customer has to paint it! If you look at YouTube there are even people doing it themselves with a homemade vacuum setup. Too easy.

[King James]

Originally Posted by AngelowDoom

Yes variety is really good. That's why I can't understand why proline think the bodies should be around 190-195mm when the trucks they make them for is 240mm. That's 4,5 - 5cm to much. That's not removable with offset wheels or small hexes.
The last proline body I bought was the 1966 f-100 cab, and due to the idiotic width I had to cut mutch of the front of the fenders away, if not the tires would rub like crazy when turning. If it covered the tires that would not be a issue. And to clear it on the outside the axle width would have to be at least xr10 width, if not ar60.
And its like that on so many bodies, make something that covers the tires for once!
Axial did it right on the scx10 2 Cherokee, and Vaterra seems to do it. Why does proline and the others struggle with this?
This is also why so many put the ugly dingo flares on proline bodies. They have kind of always been to narrow.

Time to wake up!

Although I'd like to see them a hair wider, Proline is pretty close with the proper set to tuck tires or run a more aggressive look with wider offset hubs. Standard proline bronco crawler body and scx10 width axles





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[AngelowDoom]

That's not close, the tires stick out 1.5-2cm on each side.

[King James]

Originally Posted by AngelowDoom

That's not close, the tires stick out 1.5-2cm on each side.

Mm maybe. Not centimeters. Hell the tires only 2.5 cm wide lol


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[AngelowDoom]

Originally Posted by King James

Mm maybe. Not centimeters. Hell the tires only 2.5 cm wide

Was not so bad on that pic. I was referring to the other pic with tsl tires.