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Old 03-07-2009, 08:02 PM   #1
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55t integys
10t pinions
3 cell lipo

Each axle is powered by it's own sidewinder and battery.
I've read and read and read and seems everybody runs something diffrent. I'm just looking to get a base here. I'm sporting a pimp and will be competingin our super class
Her's a pic so far
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Old 03-07-2009, 08:26 PM   #2
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That set up should work well. Will you be running a stick radio to take full advantage of your independent ESC's?
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Old 03-07-2009, 09:20 PM   #3
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That set up should work well. Will you be running a stick radio to take full advantage of your independent ESC's?
Yes, modded sx600
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Old 03-07-2009, 09:33 PM   #4
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Cool, I could never get used to a stick set up on my Super, but it's a great way to go for absolute control
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Old 03-07-2009, 09:50 PM   #5
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yea it's way diffrent. I'm using the same radio on my 2.2 so Hopefully I can get it down pretty quick. Stick cost me 2 gates though at last comp lol. It wasn't modded yet.
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sticks are just too tough to manage for me. i am hoping that somebody will make a pistol grip with an additional steering "knob" for the thumb that would allow a rear stear while will using the same hand for throttle. i would build it myself if i had any clue how to wire it up. i know exacly what i want for form/function but lack the technical prowess to execute...oh well.

Nice pimp setup BTW.
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sticks are just too tough to manage for me. i am hoping that somebody will make a pistol grip with an additional steering "knob" for the thumb that would allow a rear stear while will using the same hand for throttle. i would build it myself if i had any clue how to wire it up. i know exacly what i want for form/function but lack the technical prowess to execute...oh well.

Nice pimp setup BTW.
a guy did it with a tq3 a while back. he had 2 knobs on it. it shouldnt be too hard to wire up....the knobs still only use 3 wires on most of them
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55t integys
10t pinions
3 cell lipo

Each axle is powered by it's own sidewinder and battery.
I've read and read and read and seems everybody runs something diffrent. I'm just looking to get a base here. I'm sporting a pimp and will be competingin our super class.
I run dual MM's, BM16 brushless outrunners, one CC BEC, dual Hitec 5955 TG's, and one single lipo. I use a DX7 for a controller and a BR6000 for a receiver.

The Integy motor will have nearly no drag brake in a Super, especially with 10 tooth pinions. So be prepared for that. Gearing way down will help some, like maybe 6 tooth pinions.

You really only need one lipo and I would suggest a 3S of at least 3000mah.

My first Super was a pimp cane clod, here is my build thread, maybe you can find something useful in it for you:
N.A.'s "Grumpy" (My pimp cane clod super)

This is my current Super:
SWuper build #2

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Old 03-09-2009, 01:04 AM   #9
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I agree. No need for dual battery packs, really. I've been running two power hungry brushless motors and speed controllers on my Hustler Clod, with an 8 cell NiMh pack and I've been able to get 1 hour of run time in the house, crawling over whatever I can find. I imagine outside, once it's spring, I'll get less, but 20-40 mins should be possible.
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ok. I was going to power each axle with a 1500 3 cell lipo. They fit right on the axle braces. Thought I could use them as weight also Due to having a 1/4 scale servo on the other side.
I just didn't like the fact of having say an 8 cell pack in little 2 packs everywhere lol Maybe I can get 2 4 cell bricks made up and wire them together and put those on the axles? A food for thought. Lipo would give me the extra umph though I think. Maybe a 10 cell nimh
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Personally, I try to protect my lipos. They are soft and could get punctured real easy by rock if it's just sitting out on top on of the axle. You also don't need any weight to get a Super size pimp cane to flex. They have too much flex and need bracing to control the flex and strengthen the back bone.

A 1500 lipo is small though and would not last long if you only ran one to both axles. You would get through one course at a comp though. It would also depend on the C rating on the lipo to. 1/4 scale servos can suck a lot of power and the 1500 size lipo might not be up to the challenge.

8 cell nimh (9.6V) and 3S lipo (11.1V) is only a difference of 1.5 volts. It's slighty noticable, but not hugely. If you have room to mount knuckles packs, it's great because the weight is down low and NiMh doesn't have discharge issues like lipo.
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Personally, I try to protect my lipos. They are soft and could get punctured real easy by rock if it's just sitting out on top on of the axle. You also don't need any weight to get a Super size pimp cane to flex. They have too much flex and need bracing to control the flex and strengthen the back bone.

A 1500 lipo is small though and would not last long if you only ran one to both axles. You would get through one course at a comp though. It would also depend on the C rating on the lipo to. 1/4 scale servos can suck a lot of power and the 1500 size lipo might not be up to the challenge.

8 cell nimh (9.6V) and 3S lipo (11.1V) is only a difference of 1.5 volts. It's slighty noticable, but not hugely. If you have room to mount knuckles packs, it's great because the weight is down low and NiMh doesn't have discharge issues like lipo.
That makes pure sence Nova. I never thought about the 1/4 scale drain till you brought it up. I don't have room with these nuckles for packs on them. Won't I have to kinda equal out the weight distrubution on the axle? I know already I need a stiffner. I showed JP a flex pic and he said yep lol I just weighed 4 c's compared to a servo and they are nearly identicle. (hillbilly weighing style lol) !0 cells would be too much for the sidewinder anyway.
I may have to contact chris the battery man lol.
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I don't think balancing the weight from side to side is as important like getting weight down low. A low center of gravity can sometimes fix and uneven side to side weight. I had to weight this rig a lot to make it work and I came up with some creative solutions.
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Yeah, get yourself some JP knuckles and build a custom pack to fit them. Each knuckle holds 4 cells, so you can build anything up to that amount, or less.



I built a couple 4 cell packs for my front knuckles, and wired them in series, for 8 cells total. If you really wanted to, I guess you could do 16 cells in series, but that's overkill. 8 in front, 8 in the rear, and the wire harness to get them all connected would be twice as much work. To run two ESCs off one pack, made from two 4 cell packs in series, already is a lot wires!
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That looks sweet man. Yea, That would be a ton of wiring. If I run larger cap. Batteries should be fine anyway. Looks like knuckle packs are the way to go. Wish they'd fit on my rc4wd knuckles lol. These things are money pits. I just rebuilt my 2.2 and scratch built this and the wife is starting to freak lol
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Tell me about it! Anyone who gets into this hobby because they think it's an affordable alternative to other hobbies.....well, it cracks me up.
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Old 03-10-2009, 12:02 PM   #17
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Yea, I hear ya there Espee. If it wasn't for the vendors and for sale section here this stuff would never be possible. Great deals can be found here by some really cool people!
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Great build,gave me some good ideas on my scratch build stick.The nuckles that were mentioned are awsome,much wider.I've been using 12 cells of nicd (2 6 cell in parallel).Recently,I tried a 9 cell nimh 10.8 volts,what a differance.And the run time was simmular.
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