Lil Red Wagon feat. ImBroken

[DirkDigler]

Yep. The votes say it all. Not!
Swaybars are wrong, bad and don't work....Period! Not!

That is so rediculous. That's like saying that a Dana 44 axle doesn't work..... or that a TXT chasis sucks. I have found that you can make almost anything work well if you design it right. The way you guys are so "anti-swaybar" makes you sound like how racists talk. If it's not your way, it's wrong. If it doesn't work for you, it sucks. Like I said plenty of times now, I have watched two trucks with sway bars kick the crap out of the competition, including my trucks, several times. I have not had a use for them but some people have made them work very well and I don't see how anyone can generalize and say, "sway bars don't work". It doesn't sound like you sway bar haters have an open mind, nor have you seen many good rigs perform.

[skyjacker_rc_club]

im not saying no sway bars just not on a properly built rig. i say like others that they are a band aid for a poorly built suspension. And for cars that are going at high speed. that is why the come stock with the txt-1, for the people that race thier monster and not for the people that crawl them.

im not a sway bar killer i run them on my mod touring car i guess they make sense at 40 mph.

[DirkDigler]

I see what youn are saying but can't a properly built rig or suspension be "enhanced" by something such as sway bars. Possibly they can make it better.
I remember in the old days of 1:1, everyone removed their sway bars completely or had disconnects. Now, most serious 1:1 crawlers have bettered their suspensions and performance with sway bars. I just don't think that any of us kuckle heads has come up with the "better mouse trap" version of a rc sway bar.
That's what I'm working on.
My other secret project that I'm working towards are "Cutting Breaks", to eliminate 4 wheel steering.

[rcracer]

Dirk, I have a cutting brake on my 1:1 scale dune buggy but I can't lock my rear diff or the axles would snap. Do you think that you can up with a way to run a cutting brake on a locked diff. I was think that you could use a one way bearing at each wheel and then the cutting break might work, but you would loose reverse. not sure though. good luck and let me know how it turns out

[RcRock-Guru]

What is a Cutting Brake?

[DirkDigler]

Yep. It's going to be quite a task trying to figure it all out but I won't stop until I do.

[DirkDigler]

Cutting Brakes allow you to lock one rear wheel, or both rear wheels so you can "skid" and "drag" the rear of the truck around in tight spots. You can turn very, very sharp and best of all, in competitions, you are penalized for using 4 wheel steering. You are not penalized for using cutting brakes.

[RcRock-Guru]

I understand what your saying but wouldnt cutting brakes work better on a car moving fast. So you can powerslide. I mean when your in the rocks moving slow it doesnt seem like locking up the rear wheels would make your car turn super tight, that instead your car would just drag them, especially considering how light and powerful our trucks are. But then I didnt even know what cutting brakes were before you mentioned them, so maybe I'm just confused.

[DirkDigler]

Well,
All I know is that I took a ride in the Currie's Jeep when they first put them on a few years ago. I thought the same thing you did. I couldn't believe how well they worked. It was amazing. I think Jason uses cutters on his comp rig. Ask him what he thinks.
Just look at it this way. If you can get the front end of the rig pulling the front at an angle and pivoting the rear in one spot, you can move through some pretty tight spaces.

[skyjacker_rc_club]

ive seen that on pirate 4x4 before one of the nice about have in it on your r/c is if your going up a hill and you let off the gas your not going to slid back you can keep moving forword. good one.

[DirkDigler]

Yep. It works almost as good as sway bars!

[skyjacker_rc_club]

what douse it have to do with sway bars exactly im still a little confussed. i dont like sway bars because the limit my articulation douse this do the same.

[DirkDigler]

was only joking. Referring to our little incident.

[skyjacker_rc_club]

oh but you said you were wrking on a secret project with sway bars what was that all about im so freaking confussed and its all you fault

[rcracer]

guru, a cutting brake allows you to use the rear brakes independantly from you front to reat and independant from left to right wheel. problem is that you can't use a locker with it. example, in my buggy I pull the cutter and the rear right or rear left tire slows down and thus forcing me to turn right or left. If used properly it is a great tool.

[DirkDigler]

No no no. No sway bars for me at all.

the secret project was the cutting brake.

[DirkDigler]

Somehow the 1:1 rigs use them with lockers. Jason should be able to clear this up.

[skyjacker_rc_club]

hahahaha

[RcRock-Guru]

You coudlnt independently brake just the back left or back right by themselves with a locker. It's not possible becuase if you locked up one side the other would stop aswell, but with a differential it would put all the power to the wheel that doesnt have the brake applied. Dont see anyway possible, unless you have a magical locker that I've never heard of

[bastard]

The cutting brakes will work with or wiyh out lockers. On the rig that jason and my self compete with we have air lockers. We have tried leaving the rear locker off and tried it on. On our rig it works better when the locker is left on. Don't realy know why but it does.