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03-08-2011, 09:38 AM
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| Newbie Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Florida
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|  About to Start My First LCC Build...HELP
Hey guys, I'm a new guy...first post. I'm a big Losi fan and and own a heavily modded Aftershock and the new 810 buggy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hey_h1DoYA I am eager to break into the crawling world and wanted to start with the LCC. Its a little daunting with all of the chioces, but I like options and enjoy the hobby. Can you guys please give me some recommended parts to complete my build. I could spend all day reading, and plan to; but just wanted to ideas to start. Money is really not really an issue but I dont want to go crazy b/c I'm sure to break a few things. Also I will only be crawling for fun, no comps. I know this is a vague request but any help will be appreciated! Thanks in advance. Drew |
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03-08-2011, 10:05 AM
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| Rock Stacker Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Santee CA
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well you can start with the stickies at the top of this section, lot of good stuff in those. and like you said, just read, read, read. I've learned a buttload of stuff by doing that, there's seriously a wealth of information on this board if you look for it.
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03-08-2011, 10:20 AM
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| Newbie Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Florida
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Yea after spending the last few days reading, I think maybe the LNC will be a better starting point. Then upgrade from there.
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03-08-2011, 11:01 AM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Nor-Cal; Olivehurst/Yuba City
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my son and I just got a LNC and love it. If you have a spektrum radio, just go with the bind n drive!
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03-08-2011, 11:41 AM
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| Newbie Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Florida
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Ah I think I may copy ehills live build featured in another thread.... Comp Crawler Race Roller Losi TiNi Steering King Pins (LOSA1518 ) Losi Front CV Driveshaft "V3's" (LOSA3196) Losi Front Spindle Set (LOSA1035) Losi Hub Carrier Set (LOSA1040) Losi Rear Hub Carrier Set (LOSA2032) Losi Graphite Shock Tower Arms (LOSA1114) Losi 2.75 Spring "Gold" (LOSA5144) x2 Losi Aluminum Center Trans Shaft Set (LOSA3164) Losi Non-Slipper Top Shaft Gear (LOSA3172) Losi Aluminum "Dig" Shaft (LOSA3180) Losi 15t 48p Pinion Gear (LOS4115) Losi 40 wt Silicone Shock Oil (LOSA5226) Losi 50 wt Silicone Shock Oil (LOSA5227) Lunsford Titanium Steering Links Rocksmith Gear Jelly But first I want to get her up and running so I still need some help. I am bidding on a spektrum dx3r w/ 3100 receiver as we speak/type. I will get the MSX12 Digital Dig Servo. I wasnt sure on a good steering servo but Im sure the Hitec 7950 wouldnt hurt. But here is the question...What motor/esc/battery. It seems like the excelion is OOS at HH. How is the novak goat system? |
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03-08-2011, 12:07 PM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Madrid, IA
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i wouldnt reccomend the goat system since there have been some problems but their motors are fine. for an esc i would suggest a mamba max pro with your choice of motor 13.5-21.5 or a tekin rs system 13.5-21.5. the hitec 7950 is a great choice. instead of the normal aluminum front c's get the 20* c's and would likely leave the lundsford steering links out unless you can get a good deal on one. for a battery check cheapbatterypacks.com and get one of their elite 3s batteries, for the price they cant be beat
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03-08-2011, 01:01 PM
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| Newbie Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Florida
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Perfect just the feedback Im looking for. ok, I know im going to sound like an idiot but what is the difference b/t 13.5 and 21.5. Just put it in laymens terms. I assume it has to do with engine gearing ie more top end - less torque or vice versa. I know nitro and I wonder what would happen if I slapped a nitro mill on one of these, lol
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03-08-2011, 01:36 PM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Madrid, IA
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i was suggesting a motor in the range from 13.5t -faster/less torqu to a 21.5t-slowest/most torque. most go with a 17.5t or 18.5t. i would stay away from the novak ballistic crawler motors as they are very slow and their added torque isnt needed. i would suggest a tekin 17.5t or losi 17.5t to get the best balance of speed and torque
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03-08-2011, 02:16 PM
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| Newbie Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Florida
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Okay what are your thoughts on this... http://www.losi.com/Products/Default...rodID=LOSB9553 OR this... http://www.castlecreations.com/produ...o-onecell.html plus this http://www.losi.com/Products/Default...rodID=LOSB9406 which setup do you like better? Do I need a a BEC, should I get the MMP instead of the 1 cell? |
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03-08-2011, 03:31 PM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Madrid, IA
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the losi setup is good, i have heard good things about it. i would go with a mmp or the mmp1cell and a tekin 17.5t as they seem to be the smoothest out there and you will definitely need a bec with a mmp or the one cell because they have more adjustability with a castle link and depending on your steering servo will determine if a bec is needed with the losi system.
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03-08-2011, 04:40 PM
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| Quarry Creeper  Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: mandan
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i run a mamba max n titan 21 from a e-maxx cheap n rc bros dig plate to move the weight i had the goat 3 n brushless hated the esc been havn good results with the setup but watch temps
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03-08-2011, 07:56 PM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Hector
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I would go with the LCC over the LNC . Losi 17.5 Xcelorin Brush-less motor . Great torque & good wheel speed. Dont forget to order at least 3 pinions. 13 14 & 15. tooth. The kits does not include a pinion gear. I would suggest a MMP for your ESC . Turnigy 1300 mAh 3S Nano packs from Hobby King. Once you set up your Crawler drive it for while and get use to it. Then you'll have a better idea what upgrades you'll want. The LCC has dig too and that to me is whats make Crawling so cool and fun. Get good electronics the first time out , no need to buy twice then. Good luck and welcome to the sickness.  |
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03-09-2011, 06:45 AM
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Thanks guys I really appreciate you advice. I will place an order soon and post results! Quote:
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03-11-2011, 09:44 AM
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| Newbie Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Florida
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Okay guys here is the order, please advise if I am missing anything: LOSB 0822 - MSX12 Dig Servo LOSA 1114 - Carbon Shock Arms LOSA 3180 - Aluminum "Dig" Shaft LOS 4115 - Pinion 15t LOS 4114 - Pinion 14t LOS 4116 - Pinion 16t LOSB 9553 - Xcerlorin 17.5 combo Hitek 7950S steering servo I also need a Mamba Max Pro and 3s lipo batt/charger (not sure about the lipo/charger yet?) (I have already ordered a DX3R and 3100 receiver) Thanks for taking a second look and for your advice! |
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03-11-2011, 09:50 AM
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| Defy Gravity Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: wells, mn
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i think the xcelorin will work fine for a while...as for a charger, the hyperion eos606i is a great one, and if cheapbatterypacks.com ever gets their elite lipos back in stock, great choice there, if not the hobby king brands are actually decent quality (most of the time).
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03-11-2011, 10:31 AM
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| Newbie Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Florida
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MultiPro Intelligent Balance Charger http://www.overdriverc.com/proddetai...Charger&cat=49 and are there any decent batteries here: http://www.overdriverc.com/categories.php?cat=192 If not I will go hobbyking and follow your advice. Just trying to support the good guys! Thanks | |
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03-11-2011, 10:44 AM
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| Defy Gravity Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: wells, mn
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i think you can do better with your 100 bucks than that charger honestly, looks like a dc only version of my imax b6ac that i picked up for 45 bucks.....and nothing jumping at me in their batteries either, the may be good with monsters, but as far as a crawler store, i'm not seeing it lol. check out rpphobby.com in there chargers, checked cbp.com and they're still out of stock, holmes hobbies would be another place to look stateside. i've had great luck with my imax, only complaint is that the manual royally blows. search on here for about the eos606i, a lot of guys run them, and its a very very good charger.
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03-11-2011, 12:28 PM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Madrid, IA
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if you already bought the losi 17.5t/esc combo there is no need to buy a mamba max pro
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03-11-2011, 04:01 PM
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| RCC Addict Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: In the thinking chair
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03-14-2011, 12:44 PM
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| Newbie Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Florida
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looks like xcerloin systems are being discontinued..maybe something new is on the way. But I want to build now, not wait. So the MMP is OOS at HH but they do have the 1 cell. http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...=CSEMMBMAXPRO1 Will I have any problems with that? Do I need a seperate BEC? Which Tekin motor do you recommend http://search.horizonhobby.com/index...000&N=824+5203 I going to guess its one of those that are OOS  If it is I can order it elsewhere. Thanks |
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