New Pro Line M3 Moabs and Masher 2000

[Cloak]

The only downside to that compound, Rizzo, is on hot days you'd go through one set of tires on each course. Plus you'd make the rocks more sticky for everyone else.

[RPP Hobby]

You guys crack me up don't get me wrong I think it is cool that pro line is adding a new compound, but feel it would be great for us to see a new crawler tire from pro line. I think they can and will do it, it's just a matter time.

[KRAWLR4life]

Originally Posted by kaetwo

Oh I'm not saying that there not....I just can't talk much about it. I just wanted to stir up the conversation



What?

Oh, then you must know what I know then!\
John

[FrankyRizzo]

Originally Posted by Cloak

Plus you'd make the rocks more sticky for everyone else.

Good point. Damn it! I chewed up $20 of gum.

[KRAWLR4life]

Originally Posted by Rpp Hobby

You guys crack me up don't get me wrong I think it is cool that pro line is adding a new compound, but feel it would be great for us to see a new crawler tire from pro line. I think they can and will do it, it's just a matter time.

What I was trying to say to you earlier is, BE PATIENT you MAY see something soon, my friend is a manager at a LHS and he told me that Proline may be coming out with a new tire, not sure if he was telling me the truth or not but we'll see!
John

[Wrecker]

Originally Posted by NaZ-T

Have you ran Losi's or are you just basing your opinion on what others say?

The claws have been running here in CO for a while now on a couple of different rigs. We've compared them against moabs, mashers, m3 gladiators, etc, and the claws have whooped all of them. Lines that no-one have been able to do the claws have walked up. I think the m3 compound is a step in the right direction, but it's not going to be good enough to keep up imo. It's the design of the whole tire that needs to work, not just the compound and the moabs and mashers are lacking in other aspects aside from the compound.

[KRAWLR4life]

Originally Posted by wrecker

The claws have been running here in CO for a while now on a couple of different rigs. We've compared them against moabs, mashers, m3 gladiators, etc, and the claws have whooped all of them. Lines that no-one have been able to do the claws have walked up. I think the m3 compound is a step in the right direction, but it's not going to be good enough to keep up imo. It's the design of the whole tire that needs to work, not just the compound and the moabs and mashers are lacking in other aspects aside from the compound.

I totlly agree, I have some pre-production claws and man, I love them, I can walk up places I could never get to with moabs/mashers, now the question is... is it a matter of compound or tread pattern? We will never know until the M3 Moab/Mashers come out.
~John

[CopperTop]

Originally Posted by KRAWLR4life

I totlly agree, I have some pre-production claws and man, I love them, I can walk up places I could never get to with moabs/mashers, now the question is... is it a matter of compound or tread pattern? We will never know until the M3 Moab/Mashers come out.
~John

Man, those claws sound almost too good to be true

[Wrecker]

Originally Posted by KRAWLR4life

I totlly agree, I have some pre-production claws and man, I love them, I can walk up places I could never get to with moabs/mashers, now the question is... is it a matter of compound or tread pattern? We will never know until the M3 Moab/Mashers come out.
~John

I feel it's not just the pattern. The lug size, lllug design, lug thickness, carcus thickness, compund, etc all play a big role in the tires performance. The claws have nailed most of the catagories pretty well from what I've seen. The moabs and mashers really will only have the compound down now, every other aspect is still lacking imo.

[Grizzly4x4]

Originally Posted by KRAWLR4life

Oh, then you must know what I know then!\
John

Most likely that he does. Just my guess though.

[Grizzly4x4]

Originally Posted by FrankyRizzo

Good point. Damn it! I chewed up $20 of gum.

Use it for wheel weights.

[DUDE]

Originally Posted by Rpp Hobby

Just got a pre press release and looks like Pro Line is bringing out their Moab 2.2 and Masher 2000 2.2 tires in a M3 Compound. I think they should do a new tire my self

I knew they would, it was a matter of time, but too late, so sad for them.

The new Losi tire is going to be the tire of choice for me, unless you need a really big tire for a 2.2 Clod or something like that.

[dezfan]

Originally Posted by M715ForLife

I thought they were orrigionally put on the rears of 2wd buggys.

5 inches tall and the name ROCK Lizards?

[Wrecker]

Originally Posted by NaZ-T

The Moabs have been out for a long time and are a crawling specific tire.

Originally Posted by M715ForLife

I thought they were orrigionally put on the rears of 2wd buggys.

Originally Posted by dezfan

5 inches tall and the name ROCK Lizards?

Hey Dez, they were refering to the moabs, not the rock lizards.

[666]

As far as I know Moabs and Mashers were never made for crawlers, a wise man once said they made 3 years ago and we happened to stumble upon them and found they worked good for us. Now that some companies step up and make us some crawler specific tires and Proline says hmmm, maybe we should have got on this sooner..........

3 years ago......

[666]

On a second note, I will put the 3 head to head and see what I believe works best this weekend.

[dezfan]

Originally Posted by wrecker

Hey Dez, they were refering to the moabs, not the rock lizards.

OK, 5 inches tall and the name Moab?

[TURTLE]

Originally Posted by NaZ-T

Have you ran Losi's or are you just basing your opinion on what others say?

Everyone raves about a new tire, but until they get out to the masses you can't be for sure. I'm not saying that the Rock claws aren't going to be the best (mine just arrived today) I just think it's a little early on to make that claim.

Yep first hand experience here. Well second hand. besides Colorado's not the masses its the pub, the testing grounds
The only thing I ever state on the site is first hand experience, there is no room to talk without it.

Originally Posted by justgiveereh

If they are anything like the M3 compound on the Gladiators I'm not going to think they are going to be any better than the M2 compound but I'm still hoping.

That was exactly what i was thinking, my Gladiators are great but still not as capable as claws.

I really hope proline does really put alot into, when I raced those were the only tires I ever used, they just seem to be sitting on the side lines, until now... I wish them luck, but I have just lost alot of faith in them.

And I heard the same thing 666 did NOT A CRAWLER SPECIFIC TIRE when they were released.

[wrightcs77]

M3 compound is signifiantly stickier than the M2 compound. It is a very good tuning tool while racing. That being said, it willh ave to be seen on how these will work on the rocks. The softer sidewall will worry me a little. Maybe someone will hack an M2 sidewall with M3 tread, that would be better, I would imagine.

Thanks,
Casey

[Wrecker]

Originally Posted by wrightcs77

M3 compound is signifiantly stickier than the M2 compound. It is a very good tuning tool while racing. That being said, it willh ave to be seen on how these will work on the rocks. The softer sidewall will worry me a little. Maybe someone will hack an M2 sidewall with M3 tread, that would be better, I would imagine.

Thanks,
Casey

A little wider foam will stiffen the sidewall up nicely. There's no need to put an m2 sidewall on, that what the foam is there for.