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What happened to handshake agreements?

Elmo

Quarry Creeper
Joined
Oct 25, 2004
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291
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Beckley
A few weeks ago, I received a call about the Blaster I have for sale and the guy wants to come look at it. I was honest about the work it needed and he was interested. He wanted to pay me $500 to hold it for him till he could come with his truck and get it. I told him to keep his money and just pay the full amount when he came to get it but he insisted. We drove to the bank and he withdrew the $500 and deposited it into my account. Shook hands on the deal and agreed to meet up the following Sunday for him to pick it up and pay the final amount. Sunday comes and I wait till almost 2p.m. before i call him to give him time to wake up, go to church, eat lunch, whatever, and he doesn't answer. Call a few more times that day and still no answer. Fast forward to the next Sunday and he calls at about 11 and says that he doesn't have time to fix it and that he called every shop in town that morning and no one can work on it. (BS since none of the shops are open on Sunday) He says he will come by and pick up some parts for the $500 he had already paid me. I told him i would lower the price a little if that would help to cover any shop fees and he says he not interested, he has no time. He doesn't show for the second Sunday in a row. Call him today and ask if he's still interested and he says he'll call when he's on his way from his mom's which is about a mile from my house and that was about three hours ago. What should i do? Do i keep giving this kid chance after chance or do i teach him a lesson on not keeping your word? I was brought up believing a handshake was a contract and that's something you don't break? Am i in the wrong for feeling this way?
 
1-Your choice (assuming you have represented the facts)
2-Refund his money & sell to someone else.
3-Sell it to him, but charge 20%/week interest.........

Since I'm not there, I have to go with what is presented.:roll:
 
So, you still have the $500? IMO you have given the buyer more than enough chances to complete the deal. I would inform him he has one last chance to close the deal, or you will be keeping the $500 as a non refundable deposit for wasting your time, and move on to the next buyer.
 
1-Your choice (assuming you have represented the facts)
2-Refund his money & sell to someone else.
3-Sell it to him, but charge 20%/week interest.........

Since I'm not there, I have to go with what is presented.:roll:

Nope. If you shook on it, you can't in good conscience, change the terms. But you do have the right to recision which means you can refuse to sell as long as you return his deposit. In some cases (such as real estate), you could keep the deposit but that's not the case here obviously.

I'd set his money aside for refund and put the item back up for sale. As long as you return his money, he has no grounds for anything.
 
The issue i have is that he dodges my calls and lies to me every time i try to contact him. Its his $500 that I'm trying to return or get him to follow the original agreement and he doesn't even want to come collect his money. This is three Sundays i have wasted waiting on this guy and I'm just about done. I just want to sell that ATV and pay some bills, this was going to help a lot since I'm applying for disability and cannot work. Just wish people kept their word and didn't continually lie.
 
The issue i have is that he dodges my calls and lies to me every time i try to contact him. Its his $500 that I'm trying to return or get him to follow the original agreement and he doesn't even want to come collect his money. This is three Sundays i have wasted waiting on this guy and I'm just about done. I just want to sell that ATV and pay some bills, this was going to help a lot since I'm applying for disability and cannot work. Just wish people kept their word and didn't continually lie.
Keep $250 of it just to be a nice guy. You already had a deal and he screwed around on it which during that time you could have sold it to somebody that did want it. You aren't a Wal-Mart, so call him to come get the money.
 
I'd set his money aside for refund and put the item back up for sale. As long as you return his money, he has no grounds for anything.

This is the best option.

Since you didn't get him to sign anything or agree to any other terms, it really is your only option if you want to move forward.

Anytime I sell something to someone who wants to make a deposit on it, I put it in writing that the deposit is non-refundable and that the buyer has X amount of time to settle the deal, after which if it has not been settled, I keep the money and put the item back up for sale. If the person won't agree and sign the paper, then they can keep on truckin'.
 
So i get a call about 20 mins ago from the guy saying his mom is going to come pick up the tires for the quad in exchange for the $500. He hangs up before i can ask him anything. A truck pulls into my driveway thirty seconds after i hang up the phone with the kids step dad and mother. The step dad pushes me out of the way into my workshop and starts looking around at my r/c stuff and asking questions. I give him the tires and even help him load them into their truck. The mom is peering into the window of my hhr when we come back with the last of the tires and then jumps into the truck. The step dad asks me a few questions about the quad and tells me he will talk to his stepson and get back with me. Five minutes after the parents leave the kid calls back asking more questions about the tires. I tell him they have already left with the tires and wheels we had agreed upon and his response is to curse me out and hang up the phone. If they return thinking they are going to take anything from my car or shop, the law will handle it. I am tired of dealing with childish behavior like this not only from kids but parents as well.
 
Make sure your junk is locked up!! That it is very similar to a scam that's running around here locally. They put a deposit, delay delay delay, then grudgenly pickup the parts. The reason for the delay is that they are scoping your junk out. The reason they WANT you to think they are upset is to try and make you feel in-different to them....and then, in the next few days, things come up missing. The key is they are interested in anything that they can sell. I haven't heard of a kid/parent scam, but it is so similar it's scary. Be safe out there!
 
I wanna know what happened to Milkshake Agreements:
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Seriously, tell those people to control their kid and that they wont be back at your place...
 
I have padlocks on all of my buildings so i hope that deters them. I found hand prints on the window of my car and they tried to open both passenger doors while i was getting the tires. I have since moved the car to the back of the house in frame of the security camera. I have had to deal with break-ins too much lately and the cops have only told us that they don't have enough man power to do anything so I just hope nothing goes on. I feel a little helpless, sitting here jumping at every noise is getting a little old. I just wish the kid would have kept his word and none of this bull would have never happened.
 
I hate to stir up your paranoia any further, but I hope they're good padlocks. It sounds like they are going to try to take you for a ride...
 
Like it has already been said man. Your stuff is in their radar now. They are gonna hit ya soon. Keep a gun handy. I hate thieves.....:evil:

I am a firm believer in shoot to kill, on any unwelcome intruder. They have no business doing this to your life. They are scum of the earth, and we are all better off without them.
 
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Like it has already been said man. Your stuff is in their radar now. They are gonna hit ya soon. Keep a gun handy. I hate thieves.....:evil:

I am a firm believer in shoot to kill, on any unwelcome intruder. They have no business doing this to your life. They are scum of the earth, and we are all better off without them.

As a person who loves his family and will do anything to protect his family, i will protect them PERIOD. The police told me that it is not within the law to do so unless they are in my home threatening me. They have shown that they want to push me around and try to mess with the property already and that shows intent to me. Unfortunately the law protects the criminal not the homeowner in West Virginia.
 
You are POSITIVE his mom's house is 1 mile away? Or is that only what he told you? Do you know exactly where?

Have you ever seen the people that came to your house before?
Myself... I live in the country and know every face within at least 2 miles of me.

Either way....POLICE ... Call them now. Who cares what they told you in the past. This is the present. It will most likely not be tonight, but within a short time you WILL be ripped off.:cry:

I can't help but saying... Even if they are in the process of setting you up for a theft..... Your story is not making complete sense..... Almost like there is a key piece/event that you are leaving out.

I am seriously wondering why you did not simply hand the $500 back to the parents when they arrived instead of handing over a set of ATV tires???


Police... Call them now. No... They can not do much AFTER they rip you off. But they can go put the fear of God in them right now and patrol your neighborhood.

Cardinal Rule #1 selling things in person

NEVER at your home. Load your stuff up and take it to the buyer's location or meet somewhere in the middle.....ALWAYS
 
You are POSITIVE his mom's house is 1 mile away? Or is that only what he told you? Do you know exactly where?

Have you ever seen the people that came to your house before?
Myself... I live in the country and know every face within at least 2 miles of me.


Cardinal Rule #1 selling things in person

NEVER at your home. Load your stuff up and take it to the buyer's location or meet somewhere in the middle.....ALWAYS

I have never seen them before but I did listen to the direction that they went when they left and the story does match up. I make it a point to sell items away from home but i cant load the ATV into the HHR and i don't have a trailer. Plus my joints prevent me from lifting on it anyway so i had no choice. I offered the money back on several occasions and the kid and the parents would not take it. I don't know what to do now. I am going to try and sleep in the shop tonight so if anything goes on i will hear it.
 
...It will most likely not be tonight, but within a short time you WILL be ripped off.:cry:

Police statistics say 3 days. Call the cops, let the know they shoved you around in your workshop, tried to get in your car while your back was turned, and ASK THE COPS TO COLLECT THE FINGERPRINTS!! If it's a scam, the cops need to be made aware of it now. If the cops won't, hell, you can even collect the fingerprints. Get some really good scotch tape, put it over the fingerprints and pressing it good. Then, put more scotch tape on the backside to protect the prints. At least you have their true identity.

Ask the cops to patrol your neighboorhood at night, and most importantly, during the day. Most robberies occur during the day while folks are at work, or out of the home.

Ever seen the a show called Swamp People....that have a famous saying "Choot'em". "thumbsup"
 
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