tom@vp
RCC Addict
ehh
Its not in production so cant give a time,
not sure there is even a market,
and superdave has this market covered
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Opinions on Vp cvd's ?
- Thread starter Vp Monkey
- Start date
ehh
Its not in production so cant give a time,
not sure there is even a market,
and superdave has this market covered
roksloski
I wanna be Dave
There is Nothing better than competition.........
and superdave needs some.........."thumbsup"
give people options.......
and we all know you guys can do them at a lesser cost.........
and superdave needs some.........."thumbsup"
give people options.......
and we all know you guys can do them at a lesser cost.........
Getting tired of dogbones popping out.
jcboof
I wanna be Dave
So they will not be produced??? Why is there not a market??????
The market needs other options. Availability of the other options are really hit and miss especially if the stock runs out. Who knows when more could be available. Track record has not been the best with them.
Perhaps just offer one option. Axial stubs with berg shafts. That way there would be no need to make a different type of stub shaft. The existing ax/scx market is not really going anywhere.
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tom@vp
RCC Addict
Wait a second aren't you retiring too ... :ror:
Guys, the berg market is very niche, programming expensive robots to make parts for production requires some sales to back to cost of doing the job...
And there is a great guy doing this already, so competing in a micro market is very undesirable, we could spend better time making crawler king cvd's... at least HPI will respond to our emails.... just saying
With that said I have a small batch of berg cvd's (berg/axial) that will be tested by a couple (pre chosen) guys, one of which is Jesse. I just don't know if it will make it to a production run. I really cant say.
who is enroute anyway ...
Guys, the berg market is very niche, programming expensive robots to make parts for production requires some sales to back to cost of doing the job...
And there is a great guy doing this already, so competing in a micro market is very undesirable, we could spend better time making crawler king cvd's... at least HPI will respond to our emails.... just saying
With that said I have a small batch of berg cvd's (berg/axial) that will be tested by a couple (pre chosen) guys, one of which is Jesse. I just don't know if it will make it to a production run. I really cant say.
who is enroute anyway ...
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roksloski
I wanna be Dave
With All the ones you make for Axial, your 90% there for berg.....
DickyT
I wanna be Dave
Make them so they work with your C's and Knuckles, not berg. Just make the shafts berg length "thumbsup" There is no need for a special stub then, just a different length shaft.
my $.02
Make an 8mm stub that uses dual shear hexes like the bully and \m/
Well I'd want a set anyway...
On the flip side, I will have an XR as well soon so will be needing to accumulate the VP goodies the axles are missing!
roksloski
I wanna be Dave
bergs can use an axial stub shafts with their dog bone shaft...
so you got aleady the hard part done.........."thumbsup"
make it happen..........
and you know if it says VP on them people will buy them.........:roll::mrgreen:
so you got aleady the hard part done.........."thumbsup"
make it happen..........
and you know if it says VP on them people will buy them.........:roll::mrgreen:
jcboof
I wanna be Dave
I understand what you are saying. I just hoped that there would be more interest by VP to support not only the CVD market but more of the berg market in general.
I understand your ties with axial and respect that, but with so many guys still running bergs, a little more VP love would be awesome. Tubes and axle cases would be a nice start. I'll tame mine in black ano when they are done!:mrgreen:
Thanks for the info Tom!"thumbsup"
Jesse
PS. Your not supposed to Facebook stalk. LOL! Just might be taking my normal winter break
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tom@vp
RCC Addict
I was tagged in that post so i kept getting the updates. I have no time to stalk anything except food
Farmer
RCC Addict
Four guys in our club have ditched their fully Vp dressed xr 10's for bergs and I believe a couple more will follow. I will never run a xr10 again. You guys make berg parts and I guarantee they sell, but what do I know. At least your killing it in all of the other markets. All of my rigs will always be running something you guys have built"thumbsup"
Later,
Farmer
Later,
Farmer
binaryterror
I wanna be Dave
I've tried to be awfully quiet on this topic, which is unlike me.
I understand business practices and you are at a point just making sure things work out. I have no ill will towards you, hell I just placed a very sizable order of your items for my next truck. Just trying to understand how the Bergs keep going missed by someone with your ability to make parts.
Yes the Berg is a niche, so is the XR. Maybe the Berg is smaller in demand, but since most parts for the Berg's don't exist you'd have a monopoly. I'm not speaking just of these VVD's, but other parts that I know you have been asked to make in the past.
Last I checked, you make parts for the Exo...that is easily a micro market product. :roll:
Looking back at this you could easily make quite a few sets. Maybe run them one time or once a year, just to help us out who want other options.
How is a small batch different than a production run, would that batch be all hand produced? Otherwise you'd have the programming done wouldn't you?
So you need the Enroute files? Is that the issue? I also know a few great 3d Cad specialists and tons of machinists on this forum who could likely give you files to produce the items. I mean if all that is needed is G-Code, I doubt that would be too hard to come by if that would help.
I understand business practices and you are at a point just making sure things work out. I have no ill will towards you, hell I just placed a very sizable order of your items for my next truck. Just trying to understand how the Bergs keep going missed by someone with your ability to make parts.
Yes the Berg is a niche, so is the XR. Maybe the Berg is smaller in demand, but since most parts for the Berg's don't exist you'd have a monopoly. I'm not speaking just of these VVD's, but other parts that I know you have been asked to make in the past.
Last I checked, you make parts for the Exo...that is easily a micro market product. :roll:
Looking back at this you could easily make quite a few sets. Maybe run them one time or once a year, just to help us out who want other options.
How is a small batch different than a production run, would that batch be all hand produced? Otherwise you'd have the programming done wouldn't you?
So you need the Enroute files? Is that the issue? I also know a few great 3d Cad specialists and tons of machinists on this forum who could likely give you files to produce the items. I mean if all that is needed is G-Code, I doubt that would be too hard to come by if that would help.
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Eggo,
Before we bag on our customer service lets at least be a little honest about it. I have personally responded in emails how many times now? Each time, you do not seem to like my response. And or do not respond back to me to see if your issue has been resolved. Rob has taken multiple phone calls to help you out. We have sent out replacement stub shafts out, the first set was returned to us. The second set should of already made it to your house by now.
You sent a video to claim there was something wrong with the cvd's once. I analyzed your video after noticing from what I could see was a missing bearing in the axle. It took nearly a week to get back to me on that one.
The only thing that was ever wrong, is for some reason you got a short stub shaft. As for the rest of them being shorter. It is because we made a rev change in production to make them better. More engagement into the lockers. The shorter ones have nothing wrong with them.
As for the tie rod, I have again personally responded to you multiple times. You do not want to hear my response. You have ignored each response from myself. The knuckles are at 8 degrees. So depending on the distance to the center line the tie rod is placed. The knuckles can and will move in and out. You sent pictures showing them placed underneath the steering arms. So if you want them under the arms it will pull them inwards more. So like I said in emails to you. you can make a few turns out on each rod end to properly adjust the knuckles. Or mount them on top of the knuckle to get them back to where we planned the tie rod to be.
You may not like my responses and that is your right. But to claim our customer service is lacking? Well I will have to disagree with you. Since we have addressed you each and every time. And truly feel we have gone out of our way to help you. I have at one point took the time to send cad pictures of a section view to help explain and get you to better understand what is going on.
But if what we did was bad customer service, I really do not know how to make you happy in this situation.
Jim
Before we bag on our customer service lets at least be a little honest about it. I have personally responded in emails how many times now? Each time, you do not seem to like my response. And or do not respond back to me to see if your issue has been resolved. Rob has taken multiple phone calls to help you out. We have sent out replacement stub shafts out, the first set was returned to us. The second set should of already made it to your house by now.
You sent a video to claim there was something wrong with the cvd's once. I analyzed your video after noticing from what I could see was a missing bearing in the axle. It took nearly a week to get back to me on that one.
The only thing that was ever wrong, is for some reason you got a short stub shaft. As for the rest of them being shorter. It is because we made a rev change in production to make them better. More engagement into the lockers. The shorter ones have nothing wrong with them.
As for the tie rod, I have again personally responded to you multiple times. You do not want to hear my response. You have ignored each response from myself. The knuckles are at 8 degrees. So depending on the distance to the center line the tie rod is placed. The knuckles can and will move in and out. You sent pictures showing them placed underneath the steering arms. So if you want them under the arms it will pull them inwards more. So like I said in emails to you. you can make a few turns out on each rod end to properly adjust the knuckles. Or mount them on top of the knuckle to get them back to where we planned the tie rod to be.
You may not like my responses and that is your right. But to claim our customer service is lacking? Well I will have to disagree with you. Since we have addressed you each and every time. And truly feel we have gone out of our way to help you. I have at one point took the time to send cad pictures of a section view to help explain and get you to better understand what is going on.
But if what we did was bad customer service, I really do not know how to make you happy in this situation.
Jim
tom@vp
RCC Addict
egg
1. Send your rig in and we will put it together for you.
or
2. send your parts in for a refund.
or
3. we sent you replacement parts last week as well.
1. Send your rig in and we will put it together for you.
or
2. send your parts in for a refund.
or
3. we sent you replacement parts last week as well.
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Exo VVD's please!
tom@vp
RCC Addict
starting those today ....
motomoto
Pebble Pounder
Done yet?:ror:
VP Dan
RCC Addict
not yours :lmao:
