Castle Creations NEW lineup if Sensored motors

[BarHarborBasher]

This is some follow up info over pricing and specks... looks like we'll have to wait to see some data runs..



Castle 1515 1Y Sensored Motor - 2200Kv


Technical Specs
Input Voltage Range: 2-6S LiPo
Kv: 2200
Max. RPM: 60,000
Size: Length: 75.4mm
Diameter: 40mm (41.4mm with fins)
Weight (w/wires): 429g / 0.95 lbs
Shaft Size: Length: 20mm
Diameter: 5mm
Mounting Hole Specifications: M3 and M4 @ 25mm
Cooling Fan: Optional, coming soon!
Connectors: 6.5mm male Castle Bullet Connectors
Items Needed for Operation: Compatible Electronic Speed Control (ESC)
Application Guidelines: Ideal for 1:8 scale buggies, truggies, on-road vehicles and 1:10 scale monster trucks up to 15lbs.
Recommended ESC(s): Mamba Monster X
Max. Recommended Vehicle Weight: See application guidelines
Tech Notes:
Running modes: SMARTSENSE™, Sensored, Sensorless

Comparable Turn Count: Turn count equivalent charts coming soon!

 

[maxbonv]

When I read for the first time the news, I was very happy to see the new sensored on the market,
but when I read the specifications of the new motor...... especially the Kv......

IMO, it was not what I had hoped for, and it's not what you need to scaler market ...

The slowest motor of the range 540 available is a 3800Kv, really are too many

 

[calcagno45]

When I read for the first time the news, I was very happy to see the new sensored on the market,
but when I read the specifications of the new motor...... especially the Kv......

IMO, it was not what I had hoped for, and it's not what you need to scaler market ...

The slowest motor of the range 540 available is a 3800Kv, really are too many

Castle is simply making their current motor selection sensored right now. They have said that more Kv options will become available. I've been throwing out this out to them on both forums and Facebook. Patrick replied and said the 1406 could come in a 3100kv and 1410 in a 2600kv. I think both would be good choices for them to start producing.

 

[Di_Spencer]

Castle is simply making their current motor selection sensored right now. They have said that more Kv options will become available. I've been throwing out this out to them on both forums and Facebook. Patrick replied and said the 1406 could come in a 3100kv and 1410 in a 2600kv. I think both would be good choices for them to start producing.

Thanks for putting that in the thread. I was actually going to call and ask since I don't have facebook. Did he give a time frame for when they will be released. Hopefully before the holidays.

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[mikemcE]

Go to the web site and they should be out mid November


Hang up and Drive

 

[calcagno45]

Thanks for putting that in the thread. I was actually going to call and ask since I don't have facebook. Did he give a time frame for when they will be released. Hopefully before the holidays.

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They had to ship the sensor boards to China to be installed on the motors.



Additionally, I think any new Kv offerings will come after all current offerings are available for purchase. But I think more calls and requests for additional lower Kv offerings will help the matter and ensure we see them.

I did go ahead and preorder a 1410-3800 last night anyway.

 

[maxbonv]

Castle is simply making their current motor selection sensored right now. They have said that more Kv options will become available. I've been throwing out this out to them on both forums and Facebook. Patrick replied and said the 1406 could come in a 3100kv and 1410 in a 2600kv. I think both would be good choices for them to start producing.

Thanks for the valuable information "thumbsup"

 

[JatoTheRipper]

They have to get the firmware ready before they can release the motors to the public. I was told the firmware should be ready Friday or Monday.

 

[calcagno45]

I'm sure my MMP's will run them just fine.

 

[JatoTheRipper]

I'm sure my MMP's will run them just fine.

That's probably true. But my source from Castle said they were updating the firmware before the release. Probably for the MMX issues alone. And maybe the new Smart Sense will be improved for the Castle motors.

 

[Hydrocarbon92]

While I'd love to see a sub-2200kv option, I think if you can gear it down considerably then a 2200kv might be doable. I recently tried their 4-pole motor in my short course truck. It's a sensorless 4800kv 4-pole and I usually run sensored 2700kv 2-pole and 3500kv sensorless. I geared it way down (14t vs 24t or 20t) and there's no noticeable cogging, it also runs ice-cold while still being faster.

I'll say this on "quality": I know some people that have never blown an ESC or motor, and I know some people that smoke EVERYTHING they touch. Same goes for full-scale motorsports, I know people that can't get a clean pass w/o blowing a built transmission and others that can make a stock transmission last dozens of passes (same chassis & power level). There's something called "finess" that is as common as common sense, and I find those w/o it cannot realize it.

 

[dna4engr]

Got one on pre-order with Tower....couldn't resist at the pricepoint.

1415 1Y 2400kv sensored with 5mm rotor.

Going to be interesting to see how it performs relative to my 2300kv Rock412

 

[calcagno45]

Got one on pre-order with Tower....couldn't resist at the pricepoint.

1415 1Y 2400kv sensored with 5mm rotor.

Going to be interesting to see how it performs relative to my 2300kv Rock412

Should be more torque for sure. The ROC412 is a 52mm length can where the 1415 is a 69mm can. 32% more motor... "thumbsup"

Looking forward to a comparison though

 

[calcagno45]

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For the 1410, I'm actually considering a 1410/1.5Y -- which would be about 2550kV. And possibly a 1408/1.5Y at about 3000kV.

"thumbsup"

 

[Hydrocarbon92]

Actually I'd imagine it having a LOT more than 32% (69 / 52). From opening a few motors, the actual rotor length is 20-25mm less. At 20mm less, 49mm / 32mm = >50% more.

Another thing to think about, if your truck can fit a 40mm x 74mm can & 5mm pinion, you'd be able to use their 1515 1/8 scale buggy motors. 40mm offers a lot more power vs a 36mm can like the ROC412. Looks like the ROC412 and 1515 are about the same price...

 

[Chiphead]

I don't know how much merit I would put into the extra length equaling extra torque. Remember they are doing some fancy engineering with the sensors so the rotors are longer. Here's a screenshot of the video where they talk about the rotors.

 

[EddieO]

If you increase the length of the rotor and/or stator with everything being the same, torque will increase....just the way electric motors work...

Later EddieO

I don't know how much merit I would put into the extra length equaling extra torque. Remember they are doing some fancy engineering with the sensors so the rotors are longer. Here's a screenshot of the video where they talk about the rotors.

 

[Chiphead]

If you increase the length of the rotor and/or stator with everything being the same, torque will increase....just the way electric motors work...

I totally get that.

What I am trying to point out, as shown in the video, not the entire length of the rotor is 'propulsion' magnet. There is a dumbbell looking thing on the end of the rotor that is described as 'sensor' magnets.

 

[EddieO]

Without measuring them, I would not know if the actual magnet area increased. I would think they would measure the actual rotor magnets for length, not the balance dish or the new sensor thing...

I believe a few other companies thought of doing the sensor magnet idea like they are, but were told ROAR and IFMAR would not approve it....so they abandon it. Castle doesn't target the racing market much, so they probably did not care for ROAR/IFMAR approval.

Later EddieO

 

[Di_Spencer]

I just called castle and they said that a 3000 kv 1406 is being strongly considered but that there is no chance of it being ready for the holidays.

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