Do you believe in God,Heaven or Hell?

[WHITE-TRASH]

Actually, when jesus returns, it'll be more like a Lich and not a Zombie. Lich's are undead and similar, but are magical and still intelligent, and achieved their immortality through spells/rituals. The body is still zombie like however, so it'll still terrify people.

So smart zombie heyzeus will return. Sweet ghost story, I understand why people are such zealots about the whole deal now. :lol:

It's a rough row to hoe when you realize everything you've been taught about a subject since you were a child is based upon nothing more than superstition and campfire stories passed down through the ages. It sure was for me. :x

 

[Duuuuuuuude]

So smart zombie heyzeus will return. Sweet ghost story, I understand why people are such zealots about the whole deal now. :lol:

It's a rough row to hoe when you realize everything you've been taught about a subject since you were a child is based upon nothing more than superstition and campfire stories passed down through the ages. It sure was for me. :x

I watched a documentary last week that included an interview or two with people who thought Jesus' return was imminent...one was completely convinced that it would only be a matter of months and that not only would she would never see grandchildren, but she would not celebrate her own childrens birthdays again. She lived her life with this schedule in mind, and considering that the doc was released last year (meaning the actual footage was probably shot the year prior), it would be interesting to see a follow up interview.

 

[RANOVRU]

It's a rough row to hoe when you realize everything you've been taught about a subject since you were a child is based upon nothing more than superstition and campfire stories passed down through the ages. It sure was for me.




I think denial plays an important role. Some folks just dont want to even think about not 'believing', for fear of nothingness.

Fortunately for me that realization was very settling, as opposed to the opposite.

 

[RANOVRU]

I watched a documentary last week that included an interview or two with people who thought Jesus' return was imminent...one was completely convinced that it would only be a matter of months and that not only would she would never see grandchildren, but she would not celebrate her own childrens birthdays again. She lived her life with this schedule in mind, and considering that the doc was released last year (meaning the actual footage was probably shot the year prior), it would be interesting to see a follow up interview.

I hate cliffhangers.

 

[WHITE-TRASH]

I watched a documentary last week that included an interview or two with people who thought Jesus' return was imminent...one was completely convinced that it would only be a matter of months and that not only would she would never see grandchildren, but she would not celebrate her own childrens birthdays again. She lived her life with this schedule in mind, and considering that the doc was released last year (meaning the actual footage was probably shot the year prior), it would be interesting to see a follow up interview.

The moral of the story is some subject attract more crazies than others. :lol:

I think denial plays an important role. Some folks just dont want to even think about not 'believing', for fear of nothingness.

Fortunately for me that realization was very settling, as opposed to the opposite.

Agreed, many people have a strong need to believe in something even if it could possibly be a flawed belief.

Luckily my "Aww damnit!" period wasn't all that long. I come from a rather religious family and my wife and I are the only ones who don't attend church every sunday. My parents still hope we'll come around one of these days and become regular attendees but that's a conversation that's better left alone. It'd crush my mother if I sat her down and told her my thoughts on the subject because unlike most people I can carry on a conversation on why I believe or don't believe what I do. I can't just use the religious answers of "because it's gods will, the lord works in mysterious ways, the debbil is clouding your judgement" etc. I have to lay it all down with hard facts as I understand them, not superstition.

 

[RANOVRU]

Agreed, many people have a strong need to believe in something even if it could possibly be a flawed belief.

Luckily my "Aww damnit!" period wasn't all that long. I come from a rather religious family and my wife and I are the only ones who don't attend church every sunday. My parents still hope we'll come around one of these days and become regular attendees but that's a conversation that's better left alone. It'd crush my mother if I sat her down and told her my thoughts on the subject because unlike most people I can carry on a conversation on why I believe or don't believe what I do. I can't just use the religious answers of "because it's gods will, the lord works in mysterious ways, the debbil is clouding your judgement" etc. I have to lay it all down with hard facts as I understand them, not superstition.

Wow. Thats pretty much to a 'T' my story with my family.

Its a shame so many 'closet non-religious' folks stay hidden for various reasons.

I dont want to crush my family/close friends so I avoid it for the most part.


Maybe one day reason will win over and we can all unite.

 

[Duuuuuuuude]

I think denial plays an important role. Some folks just dont want to even think about not 'believing', for fear of nothingness.

Indeed.


Another interesting part of the doc was that there still exists 3 different views within the core of Christianity concerning what happens when you die. We here in the west are very familiar with Eternal Reward/Torment (accept Jesus, go to Heaven, if not, Hell), to a lesser degree Universalism (Gods love and grace allows everyone entry to Heaven), and one that is not hardly known or discussed here at all, Obliteration (non-believers simply cease to exist without torment at all).

 

[RANOVRU]

Well for me none of it applies, but the latter does sound better in conversation.

 

[alabamaman]

Which theory? Hawkins said a while back, that God was not real. The movie then goes to point out the time line for eveloution is not possible. Way to much to type .plus I do not want ranoveru to know I spent the hs english lesson money on real old doge parts. Wi h after two years I took my 60 dodge crew cab air force truck for its first on road test drive. That alone proves that there is indeed a God.

Which debate?

Really do not want to even hint at this one. Watch the movie . The way the student puts it out there at the end, is well worth watching the movie just to hear how he puts it.
I was impressed.

 

[Duuuuuuuude]

Well for me none of it applies, but the latter does sound better in conversation.

Doesn't apply to me either, but it is interesting how the rest of the world thinks and believes vs us 'mericans.

Another fun part that they touched on was that the end of the world that Jesus spoke of has already happened. Unfortunately for todays Christians it happened to the Hebrews a long, long, long time ago and really was the end of their world as they knew it.

 

[alabamaman]

My folks saw it but theyre holy rollers so of course they thought it was great.

I will probably check it out if it ever shows up on netflix.

Still, from the trailer I watched, the reviews Ive seen and the fact that my folks loved it, it seems super pro christian bias.

Well it is. Christian movie is a little bit bias. I think it will be worth your time just to hear the point of view shown in movie.

 

[RANOVRU]

Doesn't apply to me either, but it is interesting how the rest of the world thinks and believes vs us 'mericans.

Definitely. Many religions are much more open minded than christianity. Karma is one aspect of a certain religion that I actually like. ;-)

 

[Duuuuuuuude]

Hawkins said a while back, that God was not real. The movie then goes to point out the time line for eveloution is not possible.

Personally I do not care to hear scientists opinions on God. Theirs does not matter any more to me than anyone elses.

However, there is a thought in the scientific community that one should not explain things away with the notion of Goddidit. Once you apply that answer to a question, there is no further need to pursue any other answer.

I always keep in mind that science does not negate God, science negates theology. Trying to disprove the evidence of the natural world with faith backed by a 2000 yr old understanding of the world around us is a fools task. The only other accepted option that opposes evolution is Creation, and a good deal of Creationists also believe in a Young Earth. The further down the Creation path you go, the more your faith and real world reasoning go to battle. Personally, I could totally understand a mix of the two...the Creator creates life that over a great deal of time evolves. Thats isn't too hard of a stretch to imagine.

Way to much to type .plus I do not want ranoveru to know I spent the hs english lesson money on real old doge parts. Wi h after two years I took my 60 dodge crew cab air force truck for its first on road test drive. That alone proves that there is indeed a God.

:lmao:

Really do not want to even hint at this one. Watch the movie . The way the student puts it out there at the end, is well worth watching the movie just to hear how he puts it.
I was impressed.

I probably will watch it at some point, but I'm relatively sure the ending argument isn't anything I haven't heard before.

 

[RANOVRU]

Well it is. Christian movie is a little bit bias. I think it will be worth your time just to hear the point of view shown in movie.

Well that being said, its kind of hard watching a movie knowing before hand that its bias and that Ill disagree with the outcome.

Nevertheless, if it shows up on the flix Ill probably check it out.

 

[Duuuuuuuude]

Definitely. Many religions are much more open minded than christianity.

I wasn't talking about without Christianity, I was talking about within. Its a different thing once you step outside of the US.

Karma is one aspect of a certain religion that I actually like. ;-)

I've kind of gained the philosophy that Karma works from within the individual. Most know right from wrong, and your state of mind reacts to that which you are doing. If you do something that you know is wrong on some level, you go about with that on your conscience, and it effects your behavior and how you view things. If you do something right or good, it influences you as well. The good or bad things that may happen to you in the future are not laid at your feet by the balance of the universe, they are simply situations that you are attuned to via your mental state.

 

[braceysdad]

I believe in God, heaven, and hell. I am a Christian

 

[Pabust]

I don't believe in anything, religion is just a big business, just like prostitution "thumbsup"

 

[Szczerba]

I believe in KFC apple pies. I believe two are in my belly right now.

 

[WHITE-TRASH]

I don't believe in anything, religion is just a big business, just like prostitution "thumbsup"

People in both professions do the fawking yet only the prostitutes are honest about it. :lol:

 

[Duuuuuuuude]

I believe in God, heaven, and hell.

But do you believe in life after love?