Petition/poll ~ Keep bodiless rigs in Sportsman!!!!

[Duuuuuuuude]

Maybe you are getting it.

I am proud of you"thumbsup"

He's a stubborn bastard, but he does make sense once in a while. :ror:

 

[Fishmaxx]

So here's what I'm thinking....

To make the rules committee and Nat's handlers happy...No sportsman class at Nat's.

To make Sportsman drivers and vendors happy...make it a nationally recognized and regulated class, but leave the rules as they are.


Now for the details...

The people most interested in sportsman are those who either A) can't afford to go pro (noobs, financially strapped people who love the sport), B) love their shafties but hate competing against moa's, C) aren't serious enough to worry about whether or not they place well, and D) can't travel too far.

There are also those who do compete at a national level who enjoy sportsman, and thats fine, they have their place and are welcome to participate.

Like I said, we leave the current rules in place. There are far too many rigs set to run next season, too many new ones being built, and vendor support is already in place to make any detrimental changes.

Nat's is a big deal and a big investment. Both for the drivers, the sponsors, and the organizers. While it would be great to see a Sportsman type class there, I have to agree with what was said in the "sportsman class in nationals" thread about finding room, time, and enough drivers willing to make the trip to make it worthwhile. I personally do not see it happening, not right now anyway.

So we leave Sportsman to the local clubs and organizers. If they feel there is enough interest, let them hold regional comps. Integrate those into already existing comp schedules. Then, if they feel they can go further, let them have their own form of Nationals where again they would get folded into another, more centrally located event. I know some of you club leaders allow dig and moa in your sportsman classes, and thats all fine and well, but from regionals on up, national rules will apply.

This would give new drivers a reasonable goal to shoot for. I can totally see a noob working his way up to a regional event in one season. It is a reach, but still an achievable goal.

But what about the pro drivers? If they compete in another pro class, be it shafty or moa, their scores will not be factored into regional and national events. Meaning they can come and play all they want, but they will not be earned an invite to the big show. That takes pressure off of new and less capable drivers.

So we have rules we can live with, no added pressure on the Nat's committee, increased interest for newcomers, it promotes the sport, doesn't exclude any of our supporting vendors, and no pro drivers edging out budding competitors.

Cool I am glad we finally agree "thumbsup"

Sportsman will stay at the local level or if the Colorado boys want to hold a 2nd Nationals they can, and 2.2S Class will be NEW Class with its own set of specifications can be held at Nationals.

 

[krawlfreak]

You said before I was being short sighted and didn't understand. I took that to heart and with an open mind went looking for the other side of the coin.

That's a waste? Would you rather me continue my stance of all or nothing and do or die no matter what?

And I don't recall asking for a spot for us at Nat's. I simply wanted our rules to be left as they were.

You could just leave it alone. You could say "yep, nothing wrong here". We were all more or less happy with the way things were going. If getting national recognition means more restrictions in this class then I think a good portion of us would rather you do leave it alone.

So if we told you bodiless was accepted you would finally shut up?

Then we do nothing...all stays the same....and you can finally shut it.

Or do you want to argue about something else now?

 

[klabeaume]

If this has been brought up already I apologize. But the only reason I switched to bodiless in 2.2 pro is because the the rules were too tight on body size when the bodiless chassis are TINY! I almost failed tech at the Rox Box for a 1/4" on a body. That day I ordered a T1E ss. I like the bodied look over the bodiless but the tight body rules is a joke.

 

[rock hard]

Wow...

You must have slipped on the toilet and bumped your head because this is actually the smartest thing you have said yet...

This would be the hopeful alternative for 1.9 when it does go away, and with the lack of 1.9 support it undoubtedly will.

Maybe you are getting it.

I am proud of you"thumbsup"

I see the sportsman or 2.2s as the go to class when 1.9 fades....thats why its so important you guys allow bodiless
RIGHT HERE AND NOW


smartest thing anyone has said yet,is the commite members that said----

"I voted to keep bodiless"​

 

[krawlfreak]

Cool I am glad we finally agree "thumbsup"

Sportsman will stay at the local level, and 2.2S Class will be NEW Class held at Nationals

Thanks can we all be friends now and play with our toys.

 

[rock hard]

Thanks can we all be friends now and play with our toys.

man I hope so,but if the new 2.2s class is deemed a body only class....its gona be the same song and dance

 

[Duuuuuuuude]

Cool I am glad we finally agree "thumbsup"

Sportsman will stay at the local level, and 2.2S Class will be NEW Class with its own set of specifications held at Nationals

Just to clarify and so that we are all on the same page, what is the difference between sportsman and 2.2s? Body type?

Personally I would like to see sportsman develop another year before something similar to it is added to the Nat's roster. Things are building and moving in new directions and I think its unfair to everyone active in that class to tie a brick to its leg. There are better promotional avenues than restricting body types.

Locals are going to do what locals are going to do, rules or no, but it would be nice to have a nod from the rule makers that it is a recognized class that could potentially see Nat's action with the current rules in place.

I asked once before...how many committee members actualy participate in sportsman?

So if we told you bodiless was accepted you would finally shut up?

Then we do nothing...all stays the same....and you can finally shut it.

Or do you want to argue about something else now?

Yes, yes, I don't like your shirt.

 

[krawlfreak]

Yes, yes, I don't like your shirt.

It says Duuuuuuuuuude

 

[Duuuuuuuude]

It says Duuuuuuuuuude

Too many u's. Don't like it.

 

[rock hard]

Just to clarify and so that we are all on the same page, what is the difference between sportsman and 2.2s? Body type?

silence

 

[krawlfreak]

silence

Is golden

 

[BigBaller]

I know,I know I said i wouldn't post again but....

Your mom's box.

 

[Duuuuuuuude]

Is golden

So are you still reconsidering the bodiless rule? Because no ones feelings have changed on that...

 

[klabeaume]

Not to get off subject, but has there been consideration in evaluating the "bodied" rules? If the body rules would open up a little I would personally like to go back to a body.

 

[Duuuuuuuude]

Not to get off subject, but has there been consideration in evaluating the "bodied" rules? If the body rules would open up a little I would personally like to go back to a body.

Height, width, or length?

 

[rock hard]

Is golden

nope

but it would have been golden if the vote had gone the other way

I just really,really hope you guys do the right thing

 

[klabeaume]

Height, width, or length?

Width and length mainly. Just seems unrealistic dimensions compared to a bodiless rig.

 

[Duuuuuuuude]

Width and length mainly. Just seems unrealistic dimensions compared to a bodiless rig.

It does, but how many bodies do you know of that are less than 5" across?

 

[klabeaume]

It does, but how many bodies do you know of that are less than 5" across?

True, but there have been several crawler bodies made right to "spec"
If the rules changed so would the bodies.

BTW I voted in favor of bodiless 100% based on my feelings on the bodied rules.