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holycaveman · 02-03-2015, 11:50 AM

What is bad about this buggy is no matter how scale I make it. A one seater buggy is only worth 36 scale points. Even if I follow every last detail and throw junk in my trunk, 36 points. So depending on the cap this is could be a huge points loss. LOL. So It had better work well!

doublej · 02-03-2015, 12:47 PM

What points are you adding up - I am getting pretty close to 60 points.....

johnnyh66 · 02-03-2015, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by holycaveman

What is bad about this buggy is no matter how scale I make it. A one seater buggy is only worth 36 scale points. Even if I follow every last detail and throw junk in my trunk, 36 points. So depending on the cap this is could be a huge points loss. LOL. So It had better work well!

Good! Stay away from 60!

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Originally Posted by doublej

What points are you adding up - I am getting pretty close to 60 points.....

Damn yous!

doublej · 02-03-2015, 12:55 PM

OYY!!!!
Always here to help and "keep things scale".... I mean competitive..... ....... ..... Let's just stick with keeping it fun.

holycaveman · 02-03-2015, 02:15 PM

Ha! You guys are funny. I am roughly 13 points down per course. But i am not going all the way to Colorado to let that stop me!

doublej · 02-03-2015, 03:38 PM

Tubers don't make it easy and without a hardbody or even a custom body it is a fight. But that is sorta the point of the scale points. So I do believe in them.....
But here is my 2 cents:
Tuber - 8
Panels - 1
Sliders - 3
Inner fenders - 2
Bumpers w/ stinger - 7
Lightbar - 1
Interior - 3
Engine - 4
Tcase - 4
Front CMS - 5
Scale toys - 14

Check my math but that is -52pt...... So 2 points to spare and your not playing with dolls just to max out.

(edit - wrote the wrong numbers)

holycaveman · 02-03-2015, 03:57 PM

Mine can't have sliders, it's a rock buggy. Can't have inner fender wells, can't have bumper but I can have a stinger.

no rock buggy in existance has cms. And I am not mounting it on the chassis just for points ( Which cms should only apply to class one) but anywho.....

And on the transfer case. Does mine count as a transfer case? I mean technically it should because the motor is seperate. If so that would put me at 40. That I can be competitive with I think?

doublej · 02-03-2015, 04:07 PM

The first buggy you have posted for inspiration has bumpers, and sliders on a buggy are normal and can be made to protect your panels.
If your using the Zuki motor mount - it gets tcase points.

And I agree on the CMS - I hate seeing a steering box on a TTC rig or buggy with 40plus inch tires. but each their own.

Ill post you some photos when I get home for sliders and bumpers, they wont look out of place on what your doing.

holycaveman · 02-03-2015, 10:27 PM

Thanks doublej. I am curious about sliders an bumpers. Not seeing what you mean?

Got a little more tube work done. Starting to take shape a little. Also got the lower link mounts roughed in. Weighs 5.3oz so far and half of the tubework is done. So it's going to be a little lighter than expected. 5 3/8" across the door area should be plenty wide to keep me legal.

holycaveman · 02-04-2015, 10:13 PM

The hours you spend on making something scale. when you don't have a lot of skills....lol

Anyways I made a Panhard mount tonight. Yes it took me that long! And it is ok. I may do a little reshaping later. But here is the font axle. Between winch and mounts it's an extra 3oz. Not bad at all considering this rig will have no wheel or knuckle weights added and the servo somewhat hidden.

Sp3cia1-K · 02-04-2015, 11:39 PM

Would love to see some different angles of that axle.. it looks so nice

tedo · 02-05-2015, 07:18 AM

Love this. Screw the scale points! Just have fun build a "true scale rock crawler".

Also, it's super refreshing to see this build in the trend of U4 rigs. Don't get me wrong, u4 is great, but it's still nice to see a full tubed crawler build!

holycaveman · 02-05-2015, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Sp3cia1-K

Would love to see some different angles of that axle.. it looks so nice

Thanks. Its nothing special. With my limited skill and tooling it will have to work though.

Szczerba · 02-05-2015, 09:05 AM

Very nice. That front servo/winch setup is hawt.

You are making some gears start to spin in my head for a new C2 buggy!

holycaveman · 02-05-2015, 02:58 PM

More parts came in! Woohoo!

Stuby. I weighed it and it's literally half the weight of a standard brushed motor.

Voodoos!

holycaveman · 02-05-2015, 03:03 PM

The shock choice was tough. I love the looks of the rc4wd ultimate scale shocks.....BUTT! Not very scale travel, and simply do not work well. So i went with the hr 120mm shocks. I will strip the black. And I have a mod I do to these that make them smooth as silk!

Oh, and scale wise (most important) they are like running 14" shocks in 1:1. They have over 1.5" of travel. Where the ultimates are like run in a 10" shock.

holycaveman · 02-05-2015, 03:13 PM

I run full droop like the 1:1's incase you were wondering.

Last year's rocks buggy. It worked awesome and got me several class 3 wins. But this year I am going to try and step it up a notch. More detail, and even better performance.

holycaveman · 02-05-2015, 10:24 PM

Got some more work done in the chassis. Probably 3/4 finished now. Weight is 8.1oz. I was figuring a lb. So i am way under which is good. Hard to tell from the pictures but this chassis really is pretty uniform. Best one I have done yet. Very happy so far with it. All the welds are very solid. Should work great!

hotwheels000 · 02-06-2015, 04:30 PM

That looks great !!!! Its hard as heck to build something intentionally crooked and have it look good.

holycaveman · 02-07-2015, 12:19 PM

It's hard for me to build anything straight! But yes I agree.

02-03-2015, 11:50 AM	#21
holycaveman RCC Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Bouldertown Posts: 1,554	Re: Mid engine class 3 buggy What is bad about this buggy is no matter how scale I make it. A one seater buggy is only worth 36 scale points. Even if I follow every last detail and throw junk in my trunk, 36 points. So depending on the cap this is could be a huge points loss. LOL. So It had better work well!

02-03-2015, 12:47 PM	#22
doublej I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Sin City Posts: 3,628	Re: Mid engine class 3 buggy What points are you adding up - I am getting pretty close to 60 points.....

02-03-2015, 12:55 PM	#24
doublej I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Sin City Posts: 3,628	Re: Mid engine class 3 buggy OYY!!!! Always here to help and "keep things scale".... I mean competitive..... ....... ..... Let's just stick with keeping it fun.

02-03-2015, 02:15 PM	#25
holycaveman RCC Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Bouldertown Posts: 1,554	Re: Mid engine class 3 buggy Ha! You guys are funny. I am roughly 13 points down per course. But i am not going all the way to Colorado to let that stop me!

02-03-2015, 03:38 PM	#26
doublej I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Sin City Posts: 3,628	Re: Mid engine class 3 buggy Tubers don't make it easy and without a hardbody or even a custom body it is a fight. But that is sorta the point of the scale points. So I do believe in them..... But here is my 2 cents: Tuber - 8 Panels - 1 Sliders - 3 Inner fenders - 2 Bumpers w/ stinger - 7 Lightbar - 1 Interior - 3 Engine - 4 Tcase - 4 Front CMS - 5 Scale toys - 14 Check my math but that is -52pt...... So 2 points to spare and your not playing with dolls just to max out. (edit - wrote the wrong numbers)

02-03-2015, 03:57 PM	#27
holycaveman RCC Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Bouldertown Posts: 1,554	Re: Mid engine class 3 buggy Mine can't have sliders, it's a rock buggy. Can't have inner fender wells, can't have bumper but I can have a stinger. no rock buggy in existance has cms. And I am not mounting it on the chassis just for points ( Which cms should only apply to class one) but anywho..... And on the transfer case. Does mine count as a transfer case? I mean technically it should because the motor is seperate. If so that would put me at 40. That I can be competitive with I think?

02-03-2015, 04:07 PM	#28
doublej I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Sin City Posts: 3,628	Re: Mid engine class 3 buggy The first buggy you have posted for inspiration has bumpers, and sliders on a buggy are normal and can be made to protect your panels. If your using the Zuki motor mount - it gets tcase points. And I agree on the CMS - I hate seeing a steering box on a TTC rig or buggy with 40plus inch tires. but each their own. Ill post you some photos when I get home for sliders and bumpers, they wont look out of place on what your doing.

02-03-2015, 10:27 PM	#29
holycaveman RCC Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Bouldertown Posts: 1,554	Re: Mid engine class 3 buggy Thanks doublej. I am curious about sliders an bumpers. Not seeing what you mean? Got a little more tube work done. Starting to take shape a little. Also got the lower link mounts roughed in. Weighs 5.3oz so far and half of the tubework is done. So it's going to be a little lighter than expected. 5 3/8" across the door area should be plenty wide to keep me legal.

02-04-2015, 10:13 PM	#30
holycaveman RCC Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Bouldertown Posts: 1,554	Re: Mid engine class 3 buggy The hours you spend on making something scale. when you don't have a lot of skills....lol Anyways I made a Panhard mount tonight. Yes it took me that long! And it is ok. I may do a little reshaping later. But here is the font axle. Between winch and mounts it's an extra 3oz. Not bad at all considering this rig will have no wheel or knuckle weights added and the servo somewhat hidden. Last edited by holycaveman; 02-04-2015 at 11:24 PM.

02-04-2015, 11:39 PM	#31
Sp3cia1-K Quarry Creeper Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Gold Coast, Australia Posts: 290	Re: Mid engine class 3 buggy Would love to see some different angles of that axle.. it looks so nice

02-05-2015, 07:18 AM	#32
tedo RCC Addict Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Vermont Posts: 1,011	Re: Mid engine class 3 buggy Love this. Screw the scale points! Just have fun build a "true scale rock crawler". Also, it's super refreshing to see this build in the trend of U4 rigs. Don't get me wrong, u4 is great, but it's still nice to see a full tubed crawler build! Last edited by tedo; 02-05-2015 at 07:21 AM.

02-05-2015, 09:05 AM	#34
Szczerba I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Castle Rock, WA Posts: 8,785	Re: Mid engine class 3 buggy Very nice. That front servo/winch setup is hawt. You are making some gears start to spin in my head for a new C2 buggy!

02-05-2015, 02:58 PM	#35
holycaveman RCC Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Bouldertown Posts: 1,554	Re: Mid engine class 3 buggy More parts came in! Woohoo! Stuby. I weighed it and it's literally half the weight of a standard brushed motor. Voodoos!

02-05-2015, 03:03 PM	#36
holycaveman RCC Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Bouldertown Posts: 1,554	Re: Mid engine class 3 buggy The shock choice was tough. I love the looks of the rc4wd ultimate scale shocks.....BUTT! Not very scale travel, and simply do not work well. So i went with the hr 120mm shocks. I will strip the black. And I have a mod I do to these that make them smooth as silk! Oh, and scale wise (most important) they are like running 14" shocks in 1:1. They have over 1.5" of travel. Where the ultimates are like run in a 10" shock.

02-05-2015, 03:13 PM	#37
holycaveman RCC Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Bouldertown Posts: 1,554	Re: Mid engine class 3 buggy I run full droop like the 1:1's incase you were wondering. Last year's rocks buggy. It worked awesome and got me several class 3 wins. But this year I am going to try and step it up a notch. More detail, and even better performance. Last edited by holycaveman; 02-05-2015 at 03:20 PM.

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02-05-2015, 10:24 PM	#38
holycaveman RCC Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Bouldertown Posts: 1,554	Re: Mid engine class 3 buggy Got some more work done in the chassis. Probably 3/4 finished now. Weight is 8.1oz. I was figuring a lb. So i am way under which is good. Hard to tell from the pictures but this chassis really is pretty uniform. Best one I have done yet. Very happy so far with it. All the welds are very solid. Should work great!

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hotwheels000 I wanna be Dave Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: under a rock and a hard place Posts: 5,443	Re: Mid engine class 3 buggy That looks great !!!! Its hard as heck to build something intentionally crooked and have it look good.

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holycaveman RCC Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Bouldertown Posts: 1,554	Re: Mid engine class 3 buggy It's hard for me to build anything straight! But yes I agree.

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