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curve · 01-20-2009, 02:31 PM

gotcha

monkeyracer · 01-20-2009, 06:30 PM

hmmm.... no email from the waterjet place... guess I'll have to wait till tomorrow.

monkeyracer · 01-22-2009, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by monkeyracer

What's a good name for this chassis? A lot of other chassis have letter designations, but what about a cool name? Something easy to remember, but definitive.

Maybe snake names; Cobra, Fang, Diamondback, Rattler, etc.
Or lizard names; Gecko, etc.
or Spider names; tarantula, recluse, etc.
Or, just something cool; rock attack, the mister (monkeyracer initials - MR),

I'd like to get some decals cut, and it would be cool to take this to a comp all together and decaled up right.

Suggestions?

Bump on name suggestions?

I'm really leaning towards chameleon, but I'm not sold on it yet.

moabax · 01-22-2009, 11:38 PM

A name, how about MR4

cmbogner · 01-22-2009, 11:40 PM

I wouldnt go with Rattler it is taken by CPE.

TURTLE · 01-22-2009, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moabax

A name, how about MR4

IM pretty sure thats a HPI 4WD nitro truck. Or is that the Mt?

monkeyracer · 01-22-2009, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by cmbogner

I wouldnt go with Rattler it is taken by CPE.

Thanks, off the list... I figured some of these would be taken.

Quote:

Originally Posted by moabax

A name, how about MR4

Quote:

Originally Posted by TURTLE

IM pretty sure thats a HPI 4WD nitro truck. Or is that the Mt?

I'm trying to stay away from abbreviations and acronyms.

MR1 is the "code-name" for the chassis,

I thought something simple like 'the mod' or 'the truck', or (as an homage to a good movie), 'the dude'.

Basically something distinct, and easy to say, and when anyone hears it they know exactly which chassis it is.

cmbogner · 01-22-2009, 11:49 PM

I was reading a couple days back and saw you were playing with the designs and they all are awesome, and other than weight having a frame 12 inches long isn't so bad you still have to have the body (if you go that route) that needs to be long. Awesome design you have the hole available for straight vertical shocks like a scaler and also the holes for 3.5- 4.0" shocks. Really cool design. If you wanted to make it shorter in length dont keep the "fenders" but I keep forgeting the no-body thing, but if you wanted to cover it up with lexan, and use longer shocks, the fenders are unneeded for the most part, either way this will look awesome.

moabax · 01-22-2009, 11:53 PM

How about ( The Duke ) as in John Wayne..

monkeyracer · 01-22-2009, 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmbogner

I was reading a couple days back and saw you were playing with the designs and they all are awesome, and other than weight having a frame 12 inches long isn't so bad you still have to have the body (if you go that route) that needs to be long. Awesome design you have the hole available for straight vertical shocks like a scaler and also the holes for 3.5- 4.0" shocks. Really cool design.

Through out many design changes, I have yet to come to a design that is getting cut. I've got a few changes since the last pic was posted. Still trying to balance cost and design before I get a set of chassis plates cut. It's now only 11" long, and would not require a body, Just the 4 required body panels (hood, roof, 2 sides) which would be easy flat pieces of plastic.

Quote:

Originally Posted by moabax

How about ( The Duke ) as in John Wayne..

hmmmmmm......

cmbogner · 01-23-2009, 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moabax

How about ( The Duke ) as in John Wayne..

That is an original name for sure, and being from eastern colorado I like the sound of that.

monkeyracer · 01-28-2009, 07:57 AM

I think I might be sticking with "Chameleon" for the name, I think it fits the design a lot better than the duke or the dude or anything else I could think up.
I'm going to get the plates cut hopefully next week, and should be able to post some pics when that gets in.

I started this design because I wanted a bodiless chassis, but I didn't really like what was out there, and I wanted to have a unique crawler as well. I posted the thread to get constructive criticism from veteran crawlers, and now, it seems like there are a lot of people interested in this chassis. I may be getting a vendor star soon, but I am going to take it to a local comp and "feel" out how well they like it before I even consider trying to sell these. It won't be ready by this next comp at red rocks, so I am kind of disappointed, but I need time to tweak my rig before a comp anyway.

bassguitar · 01-28-2009, 08:42 AM

Good luck getting that done. It looks sweet! My vote would be for the slant back SUV or the pickup with the roll bar.

monkeyracer · 01-30-2009, 07:36 AM

I just sent the file to the cutter, I should hopefully have the plates sometime next week to start testing.

monkeyracer · 02-02-2009, 09:47 PM

The first prototype of the Chameleon Chassis is on it's way, and I should have it by this weekend.

moabax · 02-02-2009, 10:01 PM

Make sure to a build thread for all of us who are watching.

monkeyracer · 02-02-2009, 10:04 PM

Of course, but it will probably be in a new thread. I'll post a link to it when I get that going.

moabax · 02-02-2009, 10:05 PM

That will work for me.

Ryan33 · 02-02-2009, 10:10 PM

Not sure if its been said, but i think you should taper the front and rear into the center of the truck, might not work out if it's only as wide as a skidplate though.

Other than that looks sweet

monkeyracer · 02-02-2009, 10:42 PM

I'm going off the theory that with a longer distance between the chassis mounting points of the lower links, the greater the link angle will be...

Basically think of it like having bent links built into the chassis. Plus it makes it easier to triangulate and work with anti-torque-twist.

here's a quick paint illustration:

Basically, if the green lines represent the stock axial angles, and the red lines represent my chassis' angles, then the white area is extra clearance that this chassis provides over stock. This is assuming the same belly clearance and wheelbase. Add in some bent links, and that adds a little more to that without sacrificing belly clearance or higher COG.

Technically, the breakover angle would be the same, but the link angle would be better and I should be able to clear a few more obstacles (think SWX.)
But, then that's what the prototype is for, to test all the theories in real life, spot the weaknesses, and adjust the design as necessary.

01-22-2009, 11:40 PM	#45
cmbogner Newbie Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Lakewood Posts: 19	Name I wouldnt go with Rattler it is taken by CPE.

01-22-2009, 11:49 PM	#48
cmbogner Newbie Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Lakewood Posts: 19	I was reading a couple days back and saw you were playing with the designs and they all are awesome, and other than weight having a frame 12 inches long isn't so bad you still have to have the body (if you go that route) that needs to be long. Awesome design you have the hole available for straight vertical shocks like a scaler and also the holes for 3.5- 4.0" shocks. Really cool design. If you wanted to make it shorter in length dont keep the "fenders" but I keep forgeting the no-body thing, but if you wanted to cover it up with lexan, and use longer shocks, the fenders are unneeded for the most part, either way this will look awesome. Last edited by cmbogner; 01-22-2009 at 11:56 PM. Reason: added on

01-20-2009, 02:31 PM	#41
curve Quarry Creeper Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Farmerville Posts: 242	gotcha

01-20-2009, 06:30 PM	#42
monkeyracer I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Golden Posts: 2,588	hmmm.... no email from the waterjet place... guess I'll have to wait till tomorrow.

01-22-2009, 11:38 PM	#44
moabax Quarry Creeper Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: !! MOAB !! Posts: 373	A name, how about MR4

01-22-2009, 11:53 PM	#49
moabax Quarry Creeper Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: !! MOAB !! Posts: 373	How about ( The Duke ) as in John Wayne..

01-28-2009, 07:57 AM	#52
monkeyracer I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Golden Posts: 2,588	I think I might be sticking with "Chameleon" for the name, I think it fits the design a lot better than the duke or the dude or anything else I could think up. I'm going to get the plates cut hopefully next week, and should be able to post some pics when that gets in. I started this design because I wanted a bodiless chassis, but I didn't really like what was out there, and I wanted to have a unique crawler as well. I posted the thread to get constructive criticism from veteran crawlers, and now, it seems like there are a lot of people interested in this chassis. I may be getting a vendor star soon, but I am going to take it to a local comp and "feel" out how well they like it before I even consider trying to sell these. It won't be ready by this next comp at red rocks, so I am kind of disappointed, but I need time to tweak my rig before a comp anyway.

01-28-2009, 08:42 AM	#53
bassguitar Rock Stacker Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 93	Good luck getting that done. It looks sweet! My vote would be for the slant back SUV or the pickup with the roll bar.

01-30-2009, 07:36 AM	#54
monkeyracer I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Golden Posts: 2,588	I just sent the file to the cutter, I should hopefully have the plates sometime next week to start testing.

02-02-2009, 09:47 PM	#55
monkeyracer I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Golden Posts: 2,588	The first prototype of the Chameleon Chassis is on it's way, and I should have it by this weekend.

02-02-2009, 10:01 PM	#56
moabax Quarry Creeper Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: !! MOAB !! Posts: 373	Make sure to a build thread for all of us who are watching.

02-02-2009, 10:04 PM	#57
monkeyracer I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Golden Posts: 2,588	Of course, but it will probably be in a new thread. I'll post a link to it when I get that going.

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02-02-2009, 10:05 PM	#58
moabax Quarry Creeper Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: !! MOAB !! Posts: 373	That will work for me.

02-02-2009, 10:10 PM	#59
Ryan33 Quarry Creeper Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Where there are no rocks. Posts: 305	Not sure if its been said, but i think you should taper the front and rear into the center of the truck, might not work out if it's only as wide as a skidplate though. Other than that looks sweet

02-02-2009, 10:42 PM	#60
monkeyracer I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Golden Posts: 2,588	I'm going off the theory that with a longer distance between the chassis mounting points of the lower links, the greater the link angle will be... Basically think of it like having bent links built into the chassis. Plus it makes it easier to triangulate and work with anti-torque-twist. here's a quick paint illustration: Basically, if the green lines represent the stock axial angles, and the red lines represent my chassis' angles, then the white area is extra clearance that this chassis provides over stock. This is assuming the same belly clearance and wheelbase. Add in some bent links, and that adds a little more to that without sacrificing belly clearance or higher COG. Technically, the breakover angle would be the same, but the link angle would be better and I should be able to clear a few more obstacles (think SWX.) But, then that's what the prototype is for, to test all the theories in real life, spot the weaknesses, and adjust the design as necessary.

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