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03-31-2011, 09:27 PM
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| Tossin' Salad Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Petaluma
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Now I just need to finish up my clocked BTA setup and we can do that Caster clock on many BTA systems as well. Casey |
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03-31-2011, 09:53 PM
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| Rock Crawler Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Ontario
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Clocked BTA setup? Are you making knuckles or a new style tie rod? Thats the only thing holding me back right now on the bta setup. I like having the extra clocking |
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03-31-2011, 11:34 PM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: SLc,UT
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What is the issue with clocking and BTA?
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04-01-2011, 05:32 PM
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| Shelf queen   Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Internet
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If you go through gunnar's "Narrow FF-4" build, you'll find a good amount of photos showing both the highly clocked axle c's, and a creative steering linkage setup. | |
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04-01-2011, 11:40 PM
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| Rock Stacker Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: california,Modesto
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what size round is tube and what type??
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04-02-2011, 12:04 AM
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| Rock Crawler Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: crawlorado
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ordered 2 pair thanx for continuing the sales of this awesome product....now just need to hunt down some knuckle weights....im lazy i admit it for this one...what was the weight of the tubes?
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04-02-2011, 05:31 AM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Centered
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04-02-2011, 02:16 PM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: SLc,UT
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OH DUH!(i guess i knew that??) I was typing with out thinking all that through. thanks.. Ill look at that post. a couple weeks ago I made my own bta set up but the servo faces forward, with it backwards the linkage ran into too much. I can see how making and selling one would be tough. Shocks, shock angle, links... all that will be different on each crawler and chassis.. | |
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04-04-2011, 02:33 AM
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| Tossin' Salad Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Petaluma
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04-04-2011, 03:02 AM
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| Croakin' across the pond!   Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Nottingham, UK
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04-04-2011, 06:57 AM
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| Rock Crawler Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Ontario
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One more thing on my "do want" list
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04-04-2011, 07:03 AM
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| Tossin' Salad Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Petaluma
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Well, the idea now is to create a static tie rod...but have attachments that can adjust to different clocks. I am still working out the drag link though. The 6mm rod slides through the block left and right by 2cm each direction. Oh, and the block in the center is a direct bolt on to the VP 4 link plate, and allows the upper link screws to hold the block in place, with a little help from some nylocks of course. I will try to get a prototype made this week.  |
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04-04-2011, 07:39 AM
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| Try to Bend it  Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Perth Australia
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Your going all hi-tech on casey.Looking forward to what you come up with.
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04-04-2011, 08:10 AM
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| Tossin' Salad Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Petaluma
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04-04-2011, 10:26 AM
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| Rock Crawler Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Ontario
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If you need some extra help testing i am open to try something new on my poison dart |
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04-04-2011, 10:34 AM
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| Ex Nor-CalRCRC slave  Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: San Mateo, CA.
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Just wanted to say I used these instructions for building up an axle over the weekend, using Super 300's, VP knucks, GH Racing C's, and overdrive gears. I had no problems, no binding, no nothing. Everything went perfect.
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04-05-2011, 11:06 PM
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| Suck it up!   Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Arkansas
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04-05-2011, 11:16 PM
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| Tossin' Salad Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Petaluma
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04-05-2011, 11:23 PM
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| Suck it up! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Arkansas
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The only real issue is that the round tie rod likes to spin, which changes the angle that the rod ends attach, which changes toe in/out. Its not a lot, and its probably not even an issue, but it does do it. In the end I used little chunks of fuel tubing under the balls to kill the slop but still allow movement if needed. I had thought to install a guide pin in the rod, but the length of the housing is shorter than the movement of the rod. Maybe a square bar instead of a round rod would be the answer there... | |
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04-05-2011, 11:30 PM
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| Tossin' Salad Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Petaluma
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Ah...I had wondered about that. See, with +25 degrees of clocking, I am going to hand fab some bent push rods to be connected at the ends of the tie rod. These will be bent at 90 degrees. So, that may change the effect some...but, for my first prototype, I am using round 6mm Ti. I definitely appreciate your input. I want to get this simple kit finished and able to be mass produced for cheap. The only issue I see at the moment is that if I make the "push rods" to a specific length, then I am effectively making people have a certain caster...whether it be +20 or +25. But, to be honest, I dont think that is a huge deal. If someone wanted to use standard Axial high clearance knuckles or VP regular knuckles, some other push rods could be offered as well. My first prototype will be working with zero ackermann knuckles. Anyway, thanks again man. I will use your input to the best of my ability. Casey |
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