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Old 09-10-2010, 10:10 PM   #1
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Default *REVISED* gunnar beef toob install

As many have requested to have these toobs predrilled and tapped, the install has changed slightly. I will give a brief overview with pics on how I am doing these installs for prefit and testing.

First, let us get our tools ready. I am using 2 drill bits, 3mm and 3.2mm. I have some fine cutters, and a grinding bit to fit my drill.



So, you have already broken down your axle housing and removed the bearings and diff gears. We need to remove the bearing seat. I start with the cutters.





Next up, we need to finish off it off with a grinding bit to clean it up smooth.





Next, we need to open up the holes at the end of the housing. I use the 3.2mm bit for this. 3.5mm would be fine as well.



Now, lets move on to your Cs. If you are running the Axial clockable Cs, these are tapped, and they need to be opened up a bit. I use a 3mm bit for this.



Now, we are ready for assembly. As you can see from this next pic, I like to use longer screws first to get the toob lined up. I place both toobs into one half of the housing, and insert long screws to get them started. This will guarantee that the holes line up when you place the other half of the housing.





Once the two halves are together, you can remove the screws, and press your Cs into place. Then insert your screws.



Now that you have finished the toob assembly, you can take it apart, clean it well, and reinsert your bearings and diff gears. I recommend doing your tubes with all other hardware out of the housings.


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Old 09-10-2010, 11:38 PM   #2
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Looks good, just a spelling note: Its TUBE not TOOB
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Looks good, just a spelling note: Its TUBE not TOOB


Thanks for the tip.


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Thanks for the write up, can't wait to get mine.
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You guys are silly

KC ,Gunnar you guys are the sh1t thanks for all you do for our wonderful world

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You guys are silly

KC ,Gunnar you guys are the sh1t thanks for all you do for our wonderful world

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Well, gunnar is the brains Jason. I am just the seeker of cheap labor and materials.

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Well, gunnar is the brains Jason. I am just the seeker of cheap labor and materials.

Hey man whatever it takes

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It is time to raise this to the top. This is the proper install procedure for the toobs at this time.

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Old 11-03-2010, 11:02 AM   #10
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yea i was confused at the first DIY. lol
but at that note: Im UbeR stoked for mine to arrive!!
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Good post. But. I have yet to install mine for one reason. What length screws are those.
I don't have a ton of screws at my disposal so getting the right ones first try would be awesome.

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Good post. But. I have yet to install mine for one reason. What length screws are those.
I don't have a ton of screws at my disposal so getting the right ones first try would be awesome.

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For the thinner wall Axial C's 3x6 button heads should work good. If you are using the thicker wall type of C's (STRC comes to mind) a 3x8 should work. If using a smaller diameter cvd or dog bones, the screw can protrude into the tube 1mm to 1.5mm. If Super 300 cvd's are used, you don't want the screw going in past the tube, maybe .5mm at the most. You can look into the tube with the bearing out to check screw depth.
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Bump for one of the top items on my christmas list
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Got mine today and had them installed in a few minutes! Great product......
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so those are 3mm screws you guys are making them to fit....isn't axial clockible C's 3mm grub/set screws if i'm not mistaken.......bob

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so those are 3mm screws you guys are making them to fit....isn't axial clockible C's 3mm grub/set screws if i'm not mistaken.......bob

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Yes, I think you are correct. Any M3 screw will work. I prefer M3 x 8...or something around that size.
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when you remove the bearing seat will the toob hold the bearing at the right spot?
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Casey, can you supply the toobs and the Gunnars Pins too - if I'm going to do this - and I can feel it coming on - then it makes sence to change the pins at the same time. I run the 3Racing cvds and they will almost certainly fall apart when I split the "c"s and knuckles (These the Hot racing ones).

Re: the earlier question on the bearing face - is it possible to move the toobs out towards the hub, seat the bearing on it, and take up some of the play?
I was surprised when I took mine apart for the first time, as the bearing seems to act more like a guide than a bearing.
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when you remove the bearing seat will the toob hold the bearing at the right spot?
Yes, the bearing is held in the exact same spot...but with no slop whatsoever. The stock bearing seat offers some slop.

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Casey, can you supply the toobs and the Gunnars Pins too - if I'm going to do this - and I can feel it coming on - then it makes sence to change the pins at the same time. I run the 3Racing cvds and they will almost certainly fall apart when I split the "c"s and knuckles (These the Hot racing ones).

Re: the earlier question on the bearing face - is it possible to move the toobs out towards the hub, seat the bearing on it, and take up some of the play?
I was surprised when I took mine apart for the first time, as the bearing seems to act more like a guide than a bearing.
I dont provide the pins...but, gunnar will ship the toobs and pins together if you ask him. You can pay me or him for the pins. We always work it out.

As for play, there is no play when the toobs are in there. The bearings will seat directly against the toobs, and there is no play.

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Just thought i would add something to the install thread, i drilled and tapped an extra hole, elongated the c-hub holes and got some extra clocking out of the front.




you can see the extra screws at the front of the axle that hold the tubes in place now that the c-hub holes are elongated.
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