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01-04-2019, 01:32 PM | #1 |
Newbie Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Beaverton
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| Finally ordered a Bomber kit from my LHS!!!
I finally ordered a Bomber kit from my LHS after lusting after many of the the Bomber builds on this site for the last couple years. Sorry to disappoint anyone, this will be a pretty basic (budget?) build to start. Initially I was going to do a complete ground up custom bolt on parts build (like I did with my SCX10 II), but decided it was more economical to just buy the complete kit since I will be using most of the parts long term or until they break. The only parts I currently plan on adding to the stock kit are the following: Vanquish Motor Mount Vanquish Motor Cam Vanquish Servo Mount Vanquish Servo Clamps Vanquish Brass Pivot balls (since I hate loose balls) Misc Traxxas rod ends of various sizes for the brass balls Robinson Racing 64t Gen3 Steel Spur Robinson Racing Absolute 12t pinion Hobbywing 1080 esc Holmes Hobbies Trailmaster 550 21t SSD 2.2 D Hole beadlocks black (bought these as brand new open package for half price!) I still need to buy a servo and a radio since I traded my Radiolink RC4G off with a vehicle recently. I was thinking of getting the RC6G and undecided on the servo. Any reason not to use the stock bearings and wheel foams until they wear out or I get sick of them? Anything else I might be overlooking for an initial durability basic build? Also, in JatoTheRipper's Bomber build thread XSRCdesign mentioned that the following x-rings would prevent the stock shocks from leaking but the part/size wasn't confirmed. Anyone know if this is the correct size? Shock X rings: Mcmaster carr part number 1200N146 2 mm Wide, 3 mm ID (3mm ID X 7mm OD) $9.14 qty 10 I am looking forward to building, running, upgrading this thing! Last edited by Achilles Fender; 01-04-2019 at 01:36 PM. |
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01-04-2019, 01:58 PM | #2 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: BC, Canada
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| Re: Finally ordered a Bomber kit from my LHS!!!
For servo I run a ProModeler 470, I mostly trail run and I've never needed more torque, granted I use a 16mm servo arm which makes actual torque 1.7x what it would be with a one inch horn (I run mine on 7.4v out of the BEC on my 1080, which makes it put out 440 oz-in, so in actual practice it puts out 748 oz of torque) Sent from my SM-G960W using Tapatalk Last edited by MasteroFlego; 01-04-2019 at 02:08 PM. |
01-04-2019, 02:26 PM | #3 |
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| Re: Finally ordered a Bomber kit from my LHS!!!
I run a holmes Hobbies shv500v2, awesome servo but pricey. I like it because it runs directly on 2s to 4s, no need for any BEC. I would suggest you get a set of fast eddy bearings, the axial bearings are not all shielded so if you run into water it might rust. Also what's the advantage of a steel spur? I have one but it's still in the part bag. If you don't like the stock king shocks, look at the Gmade XD 103mm. It's cheap at 25$ a pair and they take the traxxas xrings. The bore is bigger than the kings and they are black which is a bonus over blue for some paintjobs Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk |
01-04-2019, 02:35 PM | #4 | |
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| Re: Finally ordered a Bomber kit from my LHS!!! Quote:
I also forgot to mention I have a Team KNK stainless hardware kit for it too. The Holmes Hobbies and Promodeler servos recommended a lot because they are good. Just wondering if there is something in the $70-$80 range since I'm not that hard on servos (generally speaking) and $100 for a servo seems like a lot for a vehicle that will be used 80% trail running and 20% rock crawling. | |
01-04-2019, 02:38 PM | #5 | |
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01-04-2019, 03:22 PM | #6 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Austin
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| Re: Finally ordered a Bomber kit from my LHS!!!
I also recommend some CI foams to really make the Bomber perform at its best - even though I have multiple wheel and tire sets, on dry rocky terrain the kit tires work quite well with CI Double Deuce foams wrapped around a set of cheap beadlocks. You could get away with picking up a cheap $18 DS3218 or $25 DS3218 Pro servo on Amazon for now (as good or better than pretty much anything under $50) and then decide on which of the pricier, longer lasting servos to pick up later. They both come with aluminum servo horns and ship lightning fast - the Pro is a newer version and a fraction stronger and quicker... Pro: https://www.amazon.com/ZOSKAY-Waterp...rds=ds3218+pro Standard: https://www.amazon.com/ZOSKAY-DS3218...3218+servo+180 |
01-04-2019, 03:50 PM | #7 | |
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Thanks! What size (5.5" or 6") and model of CI foams for the stock tires? To be honest I have just been using the included stock foams in every tire I have ever bought -- blissfully ignorant as they say! I forgot about the DS servos. I had one in my SCX10 and it seemed pretty strong for largish 1.9 tires not sure how long it would last with 2.2 tires but it might be good to start with. The kit isn't arriving until next week and I won't be buying the radio and servo until end of the month so no hurry I guess. | |
01-04-2019, 04:11 PM | #8 |
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5.5 is good for the kit tires. I would get medium front and firm rear Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk |
01-04-2019, 04:50 PM | #9 | |
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01-04-2019, 05:28 PM | #10 | |
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01-04-2019, 05:30 PM | #11 |
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01-04-2019, 06:45 PM | #12 | |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Austin
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(at least my 1.7" MT/Rs are extremely soft!) But the weight of your rig and the terrain, and even the average temps when you run all will contribute. Just don't get softs, or put softer in the rear than the front - you want the rear to resist squatting under acceleration when crawling. | |
01-18-2019, 10:01 AM | #13 |
Newbie Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Beaverton
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| Re: Finally ordered a Bomber kit from my LHS!!!
I finally picked up my Bomber kit from the LHS on Monday. Not sure what took so long since they normally get things in within 3 - 5 days and it wasn't back ordered. So far I almost have the entire bottom chassis built (not including electronics.) Still waiting on a few parts to continue. Not much to show that everyone hasn't seen 20X already here. It's a standard build so far with the following parts added so far. Vanquish brass balls Vanquish axle servo mount Vanquish motor mount and motor cam KnK stainless screw set The one thing I will mention is that at step 10 in the manual it has you install some ball ends at the top of the shock mounts on the front axle after the knuckles are installed. I found it much easier to install these with the knuckles removed. |
01-24-2019, 08:14 AM | #14 |
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| Re: Finally ordered a Bomber kit from my LHS!!!
Thought I would ask this question here rather than clutter up the board with another message thread. I'm currently assembling the cage with stainless steel screws and I was wondering what people are using in place of the four (AXA 441) M3 X 30mm coarse threaded self tapping screws. Are they replacing them with the stainless M3 X 30mm fine threaded equivalent? I can't figure out why Axial used coarse threaded screws in this area. All I have left to do on the build is the following. - Finish assembling the cage - Assemble and install the shocks - Paint the interior and body (I have some highly detailed heads I bought years ago I'm thinking of painting and adding.) - Connect/solder the motor to the ESC - Install electronics (Can't afford the radio and servo I want for a couple months so this will be on-hold until then) Even though I do more lurking (and drooling over other peoples builds) due to time constraints, I reallly appreciate all the help and information this forum provides! |
01-24-2019, 08:26 AM | #15 |
RCC Addict Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Canada
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| Re: Finally ordered a Bomber kit from my LHS!!!
Yes you can use the fine thread screws Same for the body panels, I used the team knk fine screws, they don't provide the coarse thread. Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk |
01-24-2019, 08:35 AM | #16 |
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| Re: Finally ordered a Bomber kit from my LHS!!!
Thanks! Mostly what I expected but I like to confirm things whenever I can. I'm still confused why Axial would even put 4 coarse threaded screws in the cage and two in the Spur cover when the rest of the kit is entirely fine threaded.
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01-24-2019, 10:25 AM | #17 |
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02-07-2019, 01:25 PM | #18 |
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| Re: Finally ordered a Bomber kit from my LHS!!!
I got the shocks built but have not added oil yet still waiting on some rubber bushings for the top shock ends to replace the stock plastic kit shock mount inserts. Don't know if anyone else does this, but when building shocks with green slime or similar grease I fully assemble the shocks and let them sit for a few hours to a day so the seals have time to swell and seat prior to adding oil. Also, when I start adding oil I initially only put a small amount in so if there is a leak I'm not wasting oil and it's easier to clean up the mess and re-seal. I picked up the EXO radiator + light bar parts tree and started painting and started painting and modifying those in preparation of the DinkyRC Bomber Box I ordered. Still need to solder the motor to the esc and waiting to have enough money for a good servo and radio. Probably should take a picture or two even though it's not much different than any other Bomber someone has seen on here before. As a side note, does anyone know currently what the average processing and shipping time is for DinkyRC? In all fairness I placed an order on Sunday 2/3 around 11:30pm and I'm guessing it is a side business. |
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