06-07-2016, 05:44 PM | #1 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Long Island, NY
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| Shock upgrade?
I just finished my build and i can tell the stock shocks will need to be replaced, so I will do that first. How are the Proline shocks? I've read some good reviews about them here. Would I run the stock springs with the Proline shocks?
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06-07-2016, 06:23 PM | #2 |
Rock Stacker Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: moreno valley,ca
Posts: 94
| Re: Shock upgrade? What's wrong with the stockers? Do you use any kind of shock o-ring slime? Gives almost any shock a smooth feel.. Tlr shock grease.. I'm only guessing if that's your issue with the stockers?
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06-07-2016, 06:35 PM | #3 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Kansas City
Posts: 760
| Re: Shock upgrade?
I had to sand down the diaphragm some on all but 1 to get them to feel nice like warm butter.
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06-07-2016, 06:58 PM | #4 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 268
| Re: Shock upgrade?
I built them once and they felt sluggish and like they were binding a little. So I rebuilt them today after watching a videovideo on YouTube, I used green slime. They feel better but still not super smooth. I can get the Prolines cheap, so I thought, why not.
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06-07-2016, 07:41 PM | #5 | |
Rock Stacker Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: moreno valley,ca
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06-07-2016, 08:18 PM | #6 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: North Carolina
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| Re: Shock upgrade?
Give the stock shocks a chance. I run the Icons on my G6 and the Pro-Line Scalers on another rig (a D90), and the Pro-Lines are not any better than the Icons. I used a little AE green slime on the shaft and the stock 30W oil to start in my II. I haven't given it a full shakedown yet, but from what I can see on the bench and in the garage, they look like they're going to perform very well.
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06-07-2016, 08:31 PM | #7 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 268
| Re: Shock upgrade?
If your truck is on the table and you push down the front or rear, do they compress right away, or is there a hesitation like it's binding for a second? That's how mine are.
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06-08-2016, 08:11 AM | #8 |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Anderson, SC
Posts: 161
| Re: Shock upgrade?
Mine are smooth now, but they weren't at first. The Pistons come off the tree with burrs. So I clean up the pistons carefully. Then dry fit them to make sure they moved smoothly. Then applied oring grease and stock 30wt oil. They cycle smoothly now. I do have a question about a shock replacement option for a scale look, anyone try the RC4WD ultimate shocks? Are they smooth and tuneable? I see they offer a tuning spring kit with 4 sets of springs. Any thoughts? Or Old Man Emus? |
06-08-2016, 08:11 AM | #9 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Waltham
Posts: 707
| Re: Shock upgrade?
I built mine last night and they are definitely binding a little. I'm going to do a little sanding and see if they get better. I was never impressed with the Icon shocks on my G6 because they leaked like crazy (even when green slimed), but these just aren't smooth at all.
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06-08-2016, 08:21 AM | #10 |
Rock Stacker Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Waterloo
Posts: 67
| Re: Shock upgrade?
Doesn't the kit come with the machined pistons? I thought I read that somewhere in the instructions? *Guess I didn't read that correctly!* Shit that might be a upgrade I will order before my kit even gets here then...
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06-08-2016, 08:35 AM | #11 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Lost in Florida
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| Re: Shock upgrade?
pro line power stroke shocks are great. look great and perform great. but not a must have mod. some oil and driver mod should make up for the stock shocks for the first few runs while you enjoy the new truck!
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06-08-2016, 08:36 AM | #12 | |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: North Carolina
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| Shock upgrade? Quote:
The internally sprung shocks look great but aren't as tunable as coil overs because there's no collar to adjust spring tension. The RC4WD Ultimates and Emus work great as dampers without springs on a leaf-spring truck if you use thick oil (like 5k diff oil thick). Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Last edited by new2rocks; 06-08-2016 at 08:49 AM. | |
06-08-2016, 09:06 AM | #13 |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Anderson, SC
Posts: 161
| Re: Shock upgrade?
That's good to know on the internal sprung shocks. i just didn't know with the available springs if a guy could get them tuned right or not. They look cool tho. I'll stick with stockers for now, no reason to change at the moment. They are holding oil and cycle smoothly.
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06-08-2016, 09:14 AM | #14 | |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Norway
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| Re: Shock upgrade? Quote:
The Proline scale shocks are good. but I dont think they are any big upgrade from Icon shocks. My experience with Icons are very good, they look good and preformes good. If they dont preform, I think its best to look into your shock building skills and maybe upgrade those instead | |
06-10-2016, 01:56 PM | #15 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: In the lair editing video
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| Re: Shock upgrade?
I definitely missed the machined pistons of the older kits. This truck has the same pistons the old RTR trucks had (molded on a parts tree). I think i'm gonna swap the Icons off of my Rubicon as they are much smoother. Just trying to keep costs down I would assume they did it to help offset the machined ring and pinion gears.
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06-13-2016, 06:58 PM | #16 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sweden
Posts: 214
| Re: Shock upgrade?
Anyone that have tried the King Shocks 100mm without the fake reservoir? They have a bigger shock body diameter and a different piston then the King Shocks with reservoir. If they perform better maybe? Without King Off-Road Dual Spring Shocks (100mm Medium OD) With King Off-Road Scale Piggyback Shocks w/Faux Reservoir (100mm) |
06-13-2016, 10:24 PM | #17 |
RCC Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Arkansas
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| Re: Shock upgrade?
Shocks are my least favorite part of building a kit. I got the preload adjustment collars trimmed up, then trimmed and sanded the pistons down to a tolerable level, and then I lost one of the tiny freakin e clips! I ended up swiping the Icons off my comp rig and ordered Pro Lines for that. I'll see if they are worth the extra $$. |
06-14-2016, 07:18 AM | #18 | |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Norway
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The reason is the kings have untreated aliminium housings that contaminates the oil, and to bid holes on the piston so the oil passes through to easy. you need very thick oil to tune them, and its also difficult to get the amount of oil correct. If you want that kind of shocks there are replicas on ebay for a fraction of the price that is even better cus they have smaller holes on the piston and have anodising on the shock body. But anyway, 100mm is to long. | |
06-14-2016, 07:27 AM | #19 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sweden
Posts: 214
| Shock upgrade?
Different piston on the ones without piggys as well bigger shockbodies, I prefer them to be 100mm they have the same travel as the icons 30mm. I guess i have to try to tweak them with different o-rings and some red rubber grease, never been a fan of icon shocks! Sent from my iPhone Last edited by Haziza; 06-14-2016 at 07:31 AM. |
06-14-2016, 08:07 AM | #20 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Norway
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| Re: Shock upgrade?
here is a king copy, they have at least anodizing on the shock bodys 90mm Aluminum Shock Absorber Set 4pcs for RC Rock Crawlers CC01 D90 SCX10 | eBay 4X Piggy Back Aluminum 90mm Shock Absorber for Crawler RC 1 10 Off Road Car Blue | eBay GDS Racing High Performance Shock Damper for 1 10 RC Car Crawler 90mm 4pcs | eBay |
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