CMS/Panhard benefits?

[Brandon]

Originally Posted by saydee1800

You are saying the this three like looks more scale. I don't see it at all. I was using the 1:1 as a example for scale reference. A lot of 1:1 rig's run 4 link front and rear. So if your talking scale how is this three link more scale?

Again, I said: "The scale look is well worth it to me and many others".

I would rather have the servo on the chassis than on the axle, therefore more scale.

Sorry for the confusion. The Wraith is not my comp rig so I can deal with the slight forced articulation from the CMS. It was also easy to make the adjustments I needed for my ride height to eliminate all bumpsteer.

[JCSXJ]

To eliminate bump steer in a 1:1 the panhard bar and trag link need to be the same length and be running at the same angle.

[meffie]

Now mind you I have not had my Wraith with the CMS/Panhard on a trail, but cycling the suspension in poser mode I have no contact of the draglink or panhard bar with the axle, draglink or frame.

I'd say you just need to do some adjusting.

Follow Harley's method, loosen EVERY part up cycle/adjust then tighten.

[sally1800]

Originally Posted by Brandon

Again, I said: "The scale look is well worth it to me and many others".

Sorry for the confusion. The Wraith is not my comp rig so I can deal with the slight forced articulation from the CMS. It was also easy to make the adjustments I needed for my ride height to eliminate all bumpsteer.

Thank you for making it more clear. The title of this thread is
Thread: CMS/Panhard benefits?


I would want any Newbie to feel that buying this system will help there rig perform better.

[SpecE30Racer]

Would the new Dinky RC 4-Link mounts allow you to run your 4-link setup with a CMS and panhard? Would there still be the binding/bumpsteer issue regardless?

[Harley]

The setup has no bump steer when setup correctly. There are two holes on the axle mount side. The top one is for VP knuckles (high steer) and the lower is for stock geometry knuckles. The reason is for keeping the drag link and panhard parallel.

Lowering the Wraith to a better ride height also makes everything more efficient in regards to steering power transfer. When I installed the kit on my rig I actually didn't noticed hardly any change in performance.

If you think a servo on the axle looks fine then this kit just isn't for you. But if you want any scale looks this should be the first mod you do! The change from a 4-link to 3-link with panhard is just to keep the rig performing the best it can.

Originally Posted by saydee1800

Thank you for making it more clear. The title of this thread is
Thread: CMS/Panhard benefits?


I would want any Newbie to feel that buying this system will help there rig perform better.

You are still a dumbass... Read the replies. They have said 5 times that the benefit is scale appearance not performance.

[Harley]

Originally Posted by SpecE30Racer

Would the new Dinky RC 4-Link mounts allow you to run your 4-link setup with a CMS and panhard? Would there still be the binding/bumpsteer issue regardless?

4-link with panhard means bumpsteer. You should run 3-link with panhard.

[sally1800]

Originally Posted by Harley

You are still a dumbass... Read the replies. They have said 5 times that the benefit is scale appearance not performance.

How does it appear more scale? If I am a dumb ass you are a suck ass who is alway looking for free bee's I guess because you have a red star you now know .

Get over your self

Again there is no benefit in wasting people money on this crap. I DID THINK YOU WHERE BETTER THAN THAT.

[Harley]

Originally Posted by saydee1800

How does it appear more scale? If I am a dumb ass you are a suck ass who is alway looking for free bee's

Again there is no benefit in wasting people money on this crap. I DID THINK YOU WHERE BETTER THAN THAT.

Are you kidding me? It is more scale appearing by hiding the huge servo. Thus the reason it has been so popular.

[meffie]

Originally Posted by Harley

Are you kidding me? It is more scale appearing by hiding the huge servo. Thus the reason it has been so popular.

Agreed. How many steering boxes you see mounted on axles? Lol

Nuff said

Sent from my Thunderbolt!

[Harley]

Originally Posted by meffie

Agreed. How many steering boxes you see mounted on axles? Lol

Nuff said

Sent from my Thunderbolt!

Right. Steering rams yes, but not a huge 2 foot wide 1 tall box with a rotating arm.

[squish72]

Correct me if I'm wrong but the reason you need to take a link off is because of the double triangulation of the 4 links. You could if your dead set on running 4 links do a lot of mods and make the uppers or lowers run parallel and then use the pan hard to keep the axle strait. I'd rather just take one link off myself call me crazy

[Harley]

Originally Posted by squish72

Correct me if I'm wrong but the reason you need to take a link off is because of the double triangulation of the 4 links. You could if your dead set on running 4 links do a lot of mods and make the uppers or lowers run parallel and then use the pan hard to keep the axle strait. I'd rather just take one link off myself call me crazy

Yup. Parallel 4-link with panhard, which what a stock JK runs. When referring to 4-link we are generally talking about a stock (or near stock) geometry 4-link.

[meffie]

Originally Posted by Harley

Right. Steering rams yes, but not a huge 2 foot wide 1 tall box with a rotating arm.

Exactly. My 1:1 Although it's kinda hard to see the ram on the axle, there's surely no giant steering box on the axle ^_^

[sally1800]

Originally Posted by meffie

Exactly. My 1:1 Although it's kinda hard to see the ram on the axle, there's surely no giant steering box on the axle ^_^

Is your rig 4 link in front?

[Agama]

Nice CJ, always wanted to make it over to Farmington NM for some 1:1 wheeling.

Ever go to Moab? I'll be there over Memorial Weekend again this year.

[meffie]

Originally Posted by saydee1800

Is your rig 4 link in front?

Yes it is

Originally Posted by Agama

Nice CJ, always wanted to make it over to Farmington NM for some 1:1 wheeling.

Ever go to Moab? I'll be there over Memorial Weekend again this year.

Thanks Man. About the only thing left of a CJ on it is the Tub and Half frame. The rest is custom.

You'd love Farmington

I have been, but not in this rig no.

[DiEzel]

Is this real life ?

[666]

Originally Posted by meffie

Exactly. My 1:1 Although it's kinda hard to see the ram on the axle, there's surely no giant steering box on the axle ^_^

What was the outcome of this pic? Looks like if you went any further.....It could be bad?

[sally1800]

Originally Posted by saydee1800

Is your rig 4 link in front?

Originally Posted by meffie

Yes it is

Then why promote Panhard benefits?

Yes the servo on the axle doesn't look great or scale. But the jacked up Drag Link it uses kills the steering throw.

I am still stuck on how this Panhard looks more scale if that is what there trying to feed but posting a picture of a 1:1 with 4 link.


People waste a lot of hard earn money on this stuff. If it work better so be it.

Originally Posted by DiEzel

Is this real life ?

So true. But the $40-$60 that people are wasting is.