CMS/Panhard benefits?

[Beej]

So I installed the panhard/Cms kit and still have lots of bump steer, etc.. so i am sure I don't have it set perfect. Anyhow my question is what are the benefits in your experience to having the kit vs. the servo in the stock spot? I bouthg the kit for a little protection on the servo, a little better clearance (which I think is less clearance due to the panhard bar hitting the axle before the servo), and the looks of it. Are there real benefits to this setup?

[Brandon]

No performance benefits, just looks. In some cases it may perform worse.

Post up some pics, we can help you with the bump-steer you are having.

[Beej]

Originally Posted by Brandon

No performance benefits, just looks. In some cases it may perform worse.

Post up some pics, we can help you with the bump-steer you are having.

Thanks, I think the setup might be going in the classifieds soon. I will post some pics and see if there is anything I can do to help it.

[jsu101]

Yeah i just put a VP on mine and it help None

[Brandon]

Originally Posted by Beej

Thanks, I think the setup might be going in the classifieds soon. I will post some pics and see if there is anything I can do to help it.

Originally Posted by jsu101

Yeah i just put a VP on mine and it help None

Don't get me wrong guys, the VP CMS/Panhard parts are awesome. I run that setup on my Wraith

The scale look is well worth it to me and many others, that's why the guys at VP produced such an awesome product.

[sally1800]

Originally Posted by Brandon

Don't get me wrong guys, the VP CMS/Panhard parts are awesome. I run that setup on my Wraith

The scale look is well worth it to me and many others, that's why the guys at VP produced such an awesome product.

What do you find so great about it? Do you not see a lot of 1:1 out by you running 4 link.

[Brandon]

Originally Posted by saydee1800

What do you find so great about it? Do you not see a lot of 1:1 out by you running 4 link.

That doesn't make sense?

[OfnaJoe]

Originally Posted by saydee1800

What do you find so great about it? Do you not see a lot of 1:1 out by you running 4 link.

Yup, and how many 1:1 do you see with a servo on the front axle......
Sorry, no performance benefits just for scale looks, I have the VP stuff and love its looks

[Beej]

It does look awesome for sure I am just not sure about getting it all setup to eliminate the bump steer. Do I just have to live with it or can it be eliminated? If possible please post pics of your setup so I can see if I am the same as well. I run the VP 3/16 steering links as well.

[Brandon]

Originally Posted by Beej

It does look awesome for sure I am just not sure about getting it all setup to eliminate the bump steer. Do I just have to live with it or can it be eliminated? If possible please post pics of your setup so I can see if I am the same as well. I run the VP 3/16 steering links as well.

Lots of posts on this. First one that came to mind: vp cms/panhard

[ax10tn]

heres a few from my post that brandon mentioned....i love the looks of mine with it

[Agama]

After having a custom rig built by one of the best, with front and rear panhards. I still prefer the performance of an axle mounted servo. Just like on my YJ, with full hydraulic steering; the ram is on the axle.


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[rckjeep]

Originally Posted by Agama

After having a custom rig built by one of the best, with front and rear panhards. I still prefer the performance of an axle mounted servo. Just like on my YJ, with full hydraulic steering; the ram is on the axle.


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True but a hydro ram and servo don't look anything alike.

I'm going to be building 1.9 SCX10 axle'd Wraith and I'll have to run a CMS since the axles I'm using don't have the servo mount studs anymore. I've got the axle side covered but have a question for the VP users.

Will the VP CMS mount slide back if I wanted to shorten the WB?

[sloppy]

Originally Posted by rckjeep

True but a hydro ram and servo don't look anything alike.

I'm going to be building 1.9 SCX10 axle'd Wraith and I'll have to run a CMS since the axles

and what real axle does a ax/scx10 axle look like?? if your axle does not look like anything real why does a servo need to?

[Agama]

Originally Posted by rckjeep

True but a hydro ram and servo don't look anything alike.

I'm going to be building 1.9 SCX10 axle'd Wraith and I'll have to run a CMS since the axles I'm using don't have the servo mount studs anymore. I've got the axle side covered but have a question for the VP users.

Will the VP CMS mount slide back if I wanted to shorten the WB?

I would use a set of Wraith axles and keep the servo on the axle. I know it's not as scale looking, but it sure works great. I'm in the process of converting one of my wraiths to rear steer and will be keeping the servo's on the axle. If you keep an eye on rpphobby.com you can get a complete axle set for 130 bucks.

If you are set on using those axles, you can purchase a new set of housings cheap.


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[sally1800]

Originally Posted by Brandon

Don't get me wrong guys, the VP CMS/Panhard parts are awesome.

Originally Posted by saydee1800

What do you find so great about it? Do you not see a lot of 1:1 out by you running 4 link.

Originally Posted by Brandon

That doesn't make sense?

Sorry

Please explain what make it so awesome?

I do see it to be more scale than 4 link in a Rock racer such as a Wraith.

Originally Posted by Agama

I would use a set of Wraith axles and keep the servo on the axle. I know it's not as scale looking, but it sure works great. I'm

It also doesn't jack you steering up like this high dollar 3 link Kit .

[Agama]

Plus, having the steering link at that steap angle puts more stress on it. When the servo is on the axle, the link is straight and it's easier on the servo.

[sally1800]

Originally Posted by sloppy

and what real axle does a ax/scx10 axle look like?? if your axle does not look like anything real why does a servo need to?

Originally Posted by Agama

Plus, having the steering link at that steap angle puts more stress on it. When the servo is on the axle, the link is straight and it's easier on the servo.

%100 true

[Brandon]

Originally Posted by Brandon

No performance benefits, just looks. In some cases it may perform worse.

Originally Posted by Brandon

Don't get me wrong guys, the VP CMS/Panhard parts are awesome. I run that setup on my Wraith

The scale look is well worth it to me and many others, that's why the guys at VP produced such an awesome product.

Originally Posted by saydee1800

What do you find so great about it? Do you not see a lot of 1:1 out by you running 4 link.

Saydee read these posts again... I clearly explained that there are no performance benefits. I then said the parts VP make are awesome. Stating that the quality, fit, finish, and of course they function just as they are supposed to.

Your comment about not seeing 1:1's with 4 link suspension by me makes no sense and has no relevance. Or am I confused what you are trying to ask?

[sally1800]

Originally Posted by Brandon

Your comment about not seeing 1:1's with 4 link suspension by me makes no sense and has no relevance. Or am I confused what you are trying to ask?

You are saying the this three like looks more scale. I don't see it at all. I was using the 1:1 as a example for scale reference. A lot of 1:1 rig's run 4 link front and rear. So if your talking scale how is this three link more scale?