Pro4 3300 vs ROC412 3100

[Angus_Beef]

Originally Posted by 68_f100

So i'm trying to decide how much of an upgrade it would be to install this motor and remove my roc412.

I've never had a roc412 so I can't objectively compare the two. But I can say this - I would not consider replacing this motor for anything. Take that for what it's worth.

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[68_f100]

I am going to go home and try and recreate your video tonight. Granted I am only on 2s but that really shouldn't matter. I am more into the slow smooth aspect than top speed.

[ussprinceton2004]

Originally Posted by Angus_Beef

Not on hand but I can make one. Love this rig. Might name her Loretta.

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could you, please? I'd like to see how much power and speed that Holmes Hobbies Puller Pro BL 540 Standard 3500kv has

[Angus_Beef]

Originally Posted by ussprinceton2004

could you, please? I'd like to see how much power and speed that Holmes Hobbies Puller Pro BL 540 Standard 3500kv has

Sure. Speed is 3500kv - Quite predictable. Power is batshit crazy. Start-up is super smooth. Hard to describe - people need to drive it. I'll try to get a good representation on vid

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[akatz]

Originally Posted by Angus_Beef

Sure. Speed is 3500kv - Quite predictable. Power is batshit crazy. Start-up is super smooth. Hard to describe - people need to drive it. I'll try to get a good representation on vid

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That's the setup I plan to go with so looking forward to seeing what it can do.
What gearing are you running?

[Angus_Beef]

Originally Posted by akatz

That's the setup I plan to go with so looking forward to seeing what it can do.
What gearing are you running?

32p 56/12

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[SCREAMER]

I have an identical setup to yours Angus and did finally make the jump to 3s. Wish I did it sooner.

[ussprinceton2004]

Originally Posted by SCREAMER

I have an identical setup to yours Angus and did finally make the jump to 3s. Wish I did it sooner.

just as I had asked Angus, could you post videos showing the power and speed of the motor on 3S?

[greengoblin]

Pro 4 Im runing it it in 5 rigs. I have other systems but they dont preform as well.

[Angus_Beef]

Originally Posted by SCREAMER

I have an identical setup to yours Angus and did finally make the jump to 3s. Wish I did it sooner.

Over the weekend I pulled out the 3500kv Puller Pro and dropped in the 4500kv Puller Pro.

Left the gearing alone (still 56/12). Still on 3S.

It's holy-shit fast and still crawls like the 3500 did in the video down in this thread. I would highly recommend it if you have a bombproof rig.

[rngrchad]

Originally Posted by Angus_Beef

Over the weekend I pulled out the 3500kv Puller Pro and dropped in the 4500kv Puller Pro.

Left the gearing alone (still 56/12). Still on 3S.

It's holy-shit fast and still crawls like the 3500 did in the video down in this thread. I would highly recommend it if you have a bombproof rig.

Hey Angus; mind if I ask how your liking the 4500kv vs the 3500kv? now that you've surely got alot more runtime on both of them?? Looking to run one of those two in my Bomber and do alot of hill climbing and trailing.

Are the 4500kv's 3s compatible? I know alot of the lower kv motors are and the higher kv's aren't.

[Angus_Beef]

Originally Posted by rngrchad

Hey Angus; mind if I ask how your liking the 4500kv vs the 3500kv? now that you've surely got alot more runtime on both of them?? Looking to run one of those two in my Bomber and do alot of hill climbing and trailing.

Are the 4500kv's 3s compatible? I know alot of the lower kv motors are and the higher kv's aren't.

I run the 4500kv on 3S exclusively and it is very seriously powerful. unless you bombproof your bomber, the 4500 will tear it to bits. I broke an MIP with mine.

Another thing to consider is that the 4500 draws a lot of current, and will chew through batterypacks quickly. And my MMP's fan runs on superturbospeed most of the time. It's a fantastic motor and I love it in the Gangsterwraith, but it's for fun - the 3500 might be a better choice for trailing and "normal" use.

not trying to steer you away, just be advised of high power, as JRH would say.

[svt923]

Originally Posted by rngrchad

Hey Angus; mind if I ask how your liking the 4500kv vs the 3500kv? now that you've surely got alot more runtime on both of them?? Looking to run one of those two in my Bomber and do alot of hill climbing and trailing.

Are the 4500kv's 3s compatible? I know alot of the lower kv motors are and the higher kv's aren't.

The 3500kv on 4S is another option. I have driven that combo in a Wraith and it is beastly powerful. Dropping down to a 3S pack will bring it back to overpowered from insanely overpowered.

[rngrchad]

Originally Posted by Angus_Beef

I run the 4500kv on 3S exclusively and it is very seriously powerful. unless you bombproof your bomber, the 4500 will tear it to bits. I broke an MIP with mine.

Another thing to consider is that the 4500 draws a lot of current, and will chew through batterypacks quickly. And my MMP's fan runs on superturbospeed most of the time. It's a fantastic motor and I love it in the Gangsterwraith, but it's for fun - the 3500 might be a better choice for trailing and "normal" use.

not trying to steer you away, just be advised of high power, as JRH would say.

Right on; thanks for the reply Angus. Think I'll roll with the 3500 puller pro. I've been trying to make up my mind for a month now. Finally. Decided. HH Puller pro 3500. Loved reading your thread even though you never did make that video of you running like you said you would

[Angus_Beef]

Ah videos
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[redemon]

Sure hope that Bomber Kit comes out soon.
I know what motor im ordering for it.
Holy moly

[Mendoza]

Great looking rig Angus and looks like your extremely satisfied with your purchase... I'm a newb to crawling and was interested in someone with experience giving real data on the hh, ROC412 and Pro4. I have the 412 and low down it looks very similar in terms of control but I am running a Team Orion Pro r10 ESC which probably has something to do with that. I'm running 5000mah 3s 40c, 56/12 and 36/14 ring & pinion gearing and top end is too FAST at full throttle ... I can't tell if there is any difference compared to your top end though ... Would be great to see your rig running at full throttle to really determine if there is a '54%' difference between tekin and hh.