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Old 08-27-2007, 04:20 PM   #41
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Seriously though. If you want to get into freedom of speech:
If someone has the right to say idiotic stuff that also means someone else has the right to call them an idiot.

If someone is lying about something, someone else has the right to call them a liar.
Its all about RCC image.

I could care less...

Just loosing respect thats all.
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Old 08-27-2007, 04:20 PM   #42
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Hey you can hire me as a mod, i'm on here 24/7
yah TOT i dont think they will do that
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yah TOT i dont think they will do that
Me either :(

worth a shot though
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Old 08-27-2007, 04:24 PM   #44
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The mods really need to man up and take charge of the flaming and "hazing." It gets out of hand fast. I have done it, but not as often as some, Ive always told them either, Im just messing with them and then I give them the answer they need or I tell them to search because I dont know. Or I refer them to a person that does.

Hire more mods that are on here more, that can take charge, stop and delete hazing as it happens. I admit I didnt like M715 but I never replied to the good bye thread.

Ive reported abuse on me and NOTHING was done. It still went on, as a matter of fact mods posted in it saying things.

I would not mind Wheel Chair as a mod, he seems to be an upstanding guy.
I did. shaun said someppl thing he should leave. so i said cya to him.

back on topic. i agree with wheelchair. This is a crawler site not a "huhu I just took a dump" site
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Old 08-27-2007, 04:24 PM   #45
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yeah alright, but calling them an idiot does not include: I made poopie, or jerk your dad off.
True, I've deleted lots of posts from smokin u rc and Frankie. I knew nothing about those posts until today. Seriously.
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Old 08-27-2007, 04:27 PM   #46
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I doubt any of you value any of our opinions, thats plain to see, but obviously I am not the only one that thinks what I have said.
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Not surprised but a little upset Jason popped in here and did not say anything.
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Its all about RCC image.

I could care less...

Just loosing respect thats all.
Some people think RCC is a buch of flamers and jerks, some people like the site the way it is, some people long for the old days. You will never make the site appealing to all three groups.

I like Rikpal, I'm sorry that he chooses not to hang out here anymore. I've been to other sites and find them boring. They have good tech and most of the members are familiar, don't get me wrong I'm not knocking any other sites. Just not exciting enough for me.
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Some people think RCC is a buch of flamers and jerks, some people like the site the way it is, some people long for the old days. You will never make the site appealing to all three groups.

I like Rikpal, I'm sorry that he chooses not to hang out here anymore. I've been to other sites and find them boring. They have good tech and most of the members are familiar, don't get me wrong I'm not knocking any other sites. Just not exciting enough for me.

Exciting and disgusting are two totally different things man....
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Old 08-27-2007, 04:34 PM   #50
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This place is starting to get on my nerves.

Never on any other site have I seen so much lack of moderation.

Our mods work very hard, do they catch everything, no, do I expect them to, no, that is why we have the "report this post" button, so everyone can work as a community to make the site better.

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I bet I could go and point out OVER 100 posts that I would be very upset if my kid was reading. Yet it's called a Family site?!!!
I'll bet I could find 10X that many posts that I wouldn't let my daughter read, but I also go let my daughter go to bars either. Some places just aren't for small children.

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The whole if your friends with a moderator, you can get away with whatever you want thing is really lame.
When you friends come over to your house are they treated different than total strangers?

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Its like a frickin soap opera.
It is actually, and many people like that. They like to come here and shoot the breeze with their friends, that's what forums are about.

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The way everyone treated M715 is another thing that is not right.
Yeah, maybe he said some things that you didn't agree with.
He said something stupid so I jokingly called him retarded, I have seen him call many other people many worse things. He was having a bad day and took it the wrong way. I was only poking fun and everyone knows that. Do you think I honestly believe he had downs syndrome?

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Well as far as I know, MOST of us are in the United State's of America.
There is this thing called freedom of speech.
Correct, we do have freedom of speech, however your freedom of speech does not apply in a PRIVATELY owed forum. And on the other hand if we have freedom of speech, why are you so upset that someone said "poopie". You can't have it both ways.

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What it means is if someone says something you don't like... TUFF CHIT!
YOU need to deal with it, Not them.
Once again you say this, but then you are complain that someone said poopie.

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Do you really feel good about yourself putting someone down?
If you didn't like what he said, WHY did you have to post something???!
I have fun joking with people, it's what people do with their friends.

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I can not see supporting a site that I don't agree with.
So I am going to hold onto my $20 a year till something changes.
I have no problem with that. We have never made the star program manditory, it's your choice. We could just as easy make everyone have a star, but we'd rather let people use the site for free.

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Go over to naxja.org and find me ONE post you would not want your kid to read. That is a family site. This is not.
NAXJA is a different forum owned by different people, every site on the web is different, that is what makes it great.

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With the attitudes of the guys in charge, I doubt anything will ever change.
Wow a personal dig on me directly, I thought you weren't into that.

As always we are open to suggestions and we work hard to make this a great site. Will spammers get on the site and post porn pictures every now and then? yes, will people get upset and say bad words? yes, will there be people that don't get along with each other? yes. But we are always working towards making the site better as a whole.

My personal cell phone number is posted all over on this forum, if you can't find it feel free to pm me or email me for it. I am always open to hearing peoples ideas.


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Sad thing is, RCC is proud of its image.
Why wouldn't we be proud of this site? Yes there are some things we are ashamed of, yes there are some things we'd like to change, but yes I am damn proud of this site. Whoops, I just said a cuss word.


Just so everyone know we understand we are shorthanded on mods, we have been working hard for the last few weeks to fix this problem, and you will see several new mods added soon.
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e: f,b by the man himself. Said a few of the same things I did too. Keep up the good work and if you need someone who browses a lot outside of tax season, let me know.

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I don't care what you get payed, point is YOU ARE BEING PAYED TO DO SOMETHING. That is the definition of a job.
This, in addition to the people going on about "what does my money go to" don't understand what is involved in running a website. You are paying a subscription to use features on the site. THAT is what you are paying for, not the content. You can easily browse all the content you want for free.

As far as I'm concerned, they're doing their jobs fairly well. Sure, we could use a mod or 2 more around here, but that's up to them to implement. It is a very difficult thing to chose and train more moderators. People *really* don't understand what it takes. I have to say, Wheelchair, I would probably not want to be on a board that you moderate, based on this thread alone.

You seem like a fairly level headed guy otherwise, but your "think about the children" argument sets off my "batsh!t insane" alarms. That's years of making my living running forums and large websites speaking.

Hey, be glad, I could be a moderator around here. My switches between pedantic postings and hazing would go over real well with the masses. Honestly, I would probably delete a crap load of posts rather than haze them.

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Old 08-27-2007, 04:35 PM   #52
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Not surprised but a little upset Jason popped in here and did not say anything.
Dude I was writing a reply, sorry I decided to take a few minutes and do a through job.
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I know this won't mean much coming from a noob like myself, but I like to think I've been around forums enough to know what I'm talking about..

If you don't like the way the forum is run, leave. Your part of someone elses forum, you don't own part of the forum. No matter how much money you have put towards a star you don't run the place. The owner of the forum runs the place. Would you walk into a bar and start telling the owner how to do things, how to run his establishment?

I like to think of the money I've payed for a star goes towards getting me into all the free giveaways, being able to use a custom title and avatar and helping with the upkeep of the forum....in no way do I think that paying $20 a year gives me the right to run the forums and tell people how to do things and when to do them. I see that money as a helpful tool that the owner can use to keep costs down on running the place.

I've been a mod/admin at a popular photoshop forum for quite a few years now and I'd like to think I've seen it all. I've banned people for being idiots, I've let people stay for being idiots, hell I've even turned a hated member into a mod/admin along side myself...the owner of the forum basically left the forum in my hands for most of my time over there and I ran the forum. I tried to be fair...sometimes I've had a bad day and tired of reading the BS that spews from behind the keyboard and just started deleting accounts. The owner of the forum never questioned my ability and my reasoning behind the things I did, always backed me, and I'm sure this forum is not far off from the same.

The decision is left up to the person/people in charge and the trusted few that are given "the power" are expected to use their best judgement to handle business. I'm sure that if the owner of the site saw things weren't going right he/she could make some changes if they thought it needed to be done.


On a personal note, I like RCC the way it is. As much as I've seen I don't think I've ever saw a mod/admin do anything I disagree with...I think I'll keep this place just the way it is(because I have that option???)...
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The way everyone treated M715 is another thing that is not right.
Yeah, maybe he said some things that you didn't agree with.

Well as far as I know, MOST of us are in the United State's of America.
There is this thing called freedom of speech.

What it means is if someone says something you don't like... TUFF CHIT!
YOU need to deal with it, Not them.

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Seriously though. If you want to get into freedom of speech:
If someone has the right to say idiotic stuff that also means someone else has the right to call them an idiot.

If someone is lying about something, someone else has the right to call them a liar.

What Grix said X2
Your points lost all credibility with me once you throw in the FOS card then proceed to tell everyone that they shouldn't post things you don't like.
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Old 08-27-2007, 04:46 PM   #55
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You can also set sites with "Parental control" just like you can with your TV. If you are affraid of your kids getting on this site to read "Poopie" or read threads about how they may wipe. put a parental lock on it.

It's funny cause I have to unlock my tv for my kids to watch the news for class projects.

I've also seen things on the disney or cartoon chanels worse than what I've read on this site. (for the most part)
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Do you Honestly think the point of my post was to ruffle everyones feathers and bring more drama?!!

Go back, read the first post again..... SLOWLY.
I have read your first post, and every one up to post number 57. I really don't need to read slowly, I get your point. You sound all bent out of shape about nothing. You get you panties in a wad over trivial stuff while the rest of us grown ups chuckle at and go on with our day. If you don't like the hazing or flaming, report it and go on your way. The mods will either deal with it, or they won't. How does it affect your life either way? Relax, its just the internet...

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The whole if your friends with a moderator, you can get away with whatever you want thing is really lame.
I agree with this point of yours. I have seen and been on the receiving side of a mod that has his "buddies" or "favorite vendor". God forbid you question one of these guys or call one out. You get gutted in threads and get the crappy PM's from a worthless mod.

I see it as the owners right to have an idiot for a mod if they so choose. Would I rather these guys get the red star taken away? Yes, but it is not my place to tell the owners how to run their board.

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Not surprised but a little upset Jason popped in here and did not say anything.
That is a scum bag statement. If something like that was leveled against you, you would probably start a thread about how horrible this site is for allowing such personal attacks.

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Its all about RCC image.

I could care less...

Just loosing respect thats all.
And who cares if you respect this site? I sure don't...

You sound like a person who is not getting their way on the internet. So what, it is the internet for god sakes. If this place is that important to you, you really need to get out more.

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Old 08-27-2007, 04:59 PM   #57
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Its just the internet! Sheesh....
Try scale4x4 if you want a tame site, I like to be able to break loose once in awhile here.
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Dude I was writing a reply, sorry I decided to take a few minutes and do a through job.
Thats fine I can understand that... it logs me out when I do that too..
Sorry man, i thought you came in and left without a word.

But you are twisting what I said.

I guess I should have added that this IS A PRIVATE FORUM.
There for it is up to the mods and you to have it the way you want it.

I just did not think that you wanted this place like this.

Yes I do enjoy being able to chat about things on here and maybe a little friendly banter.... but there's a lot going on here that simply should not be.

Someone telling someone else to go jack off their dad should be BANNED.
I don't care how long but he should be banned!


You totally missed a lot of my points Jason.

When I was talking about attitudes of the people running this place, your name was not included. It was NOT a personal dig. I appologize if it came across that way. But you have to agree with me the attitudes of the people in charge are, this is how they like it. (With a few more mods of course)

As for the getting payed to be a mod, It was simply a fact to show the mods arguing with me that it is indeed a job, I don't care how many hours a day you do it.

I have ONLY stated the facts with a few small opinions mixed in.

If that makes me a drama queen then what ever makes you happy man.
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You can also set sites with "Parental control" just like you can with your TV. If you are affraid of your kids getting on this site to read "Poopie" or read threads about how they may wipe. put a parental lock on it.

It's funny cause I have to unlock my tv for my kids to watch the news for class projects.

I've also seen things on the disney or cartoon chanels worse than what I've read on this site. (for the most part)
Agreed, I worry less about what's on this site than I do the news or movie ads on TV. Some of those movie ads scare the crap out of my kids.
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I agree with this point of yours. I have seen and been on the receiving side of a mod that has his "buddies" or "favorite vendor". God forbid you question one of these guys or call one out. You get gutted in threads and get the crappy PM's from a worthless mod.
Just so you, and everyone else knows, I do take this very seriously. If John and I feel a mod is abusing their power we have no problem handling the situation.

If you experience this first hand, either pm, email, or call John or myself and we will look into the problem.
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