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[HotRodJosh]

Oooo....a Top Truck Challenge would rule....
Got mud???

[War Pig]

Sweet, that's the reaction I was looking for!

I'm planning a small TTC in Oregon in November. Maybe it'll be a dry run for something in Montana. I'm mostly looking to see what kind of time it will require to run the trucks through 7 courses in a day. I'm planning to run just 10 rigs, and see how that goes. If everything goes smoothly, and I can figure out how to score it fairly, I wouldn't mind doing it again in May. I've been watching the TTC DVD from 2007, and reading some old mags, and getting ideas from them.

[montana.matt]

Originally Posted by War Pig

Sweet, that's the reaction I was looking for!

I'm planning a small TTC in Oregon in November. Maybe it'll be a dry run for something in Montana. I'm mostly looking to see what kind of time it will require to run the trucks through 7 courses in a day. I'm planning to run just 10 rigs, and see how that goes. If everything goes smoothly, and I can figure out how to score it fairly, I wouldn't mind doing it again in May. I've been watching the TTC DVD from 2007, and reading some old mags, and getting ideas from them.

Do you have a set of rules that you'll be going by for your clubs TTC? I imagine if there is a TTC at the scale nats, the rules will be very similar to what you're going by in Oregon, correct?

Sounds like a pretty cool idea to me!

[Unimoger]

Originally Posted by montana.matt

Do you have a set of rules that you'll be going by for your clubs TTC? I imagine if there is a TTC at the scale nats, the rules will be very similar to what you're going by in Oregon, correct?

Sounds like a pretty cool idea to me!

from Tim's post on ORCRC.com

So, since I didn't do a railroad comp this year, I've been kicking around putting on a small TTC competition. I discussed it with Ryan today, and he thinks it would be a great idea. I know it has been discussed having a large TTC that would attract people from all over, and I think this would be a great test to see how it goes, and to work out any kinks.

The rules would be:

Truck must fit within the Montana Scale Rules.
10 trucks maximum due to time restraints.
Trucks with winches will be chosen first.
You must use the same truck for the whole competition, no changing parts/tires:.
You can run 2.2 or 1.9, but 1.9's will have a difficult time.

The courses will include:

1. Frame Twister- mud, water, and logs.
2. Hill Climb- Steep hill climb that gets steeper as you go.
3. Obstacle Course- Many different obstacles in a timed course.
4. Truck Pull- Pulling a heavy sled, farthest wins.
5. Mud Pit- Let's see who's truck can go the farthest in a mud pit that keeps getting deeper and deeper.
6. Rock Crawl- Just what it says.
7. Tank Trap- Mud, climbs, rocks, water. This is worth double points.

If this goes well, It'll be a good dry run for a huge TTC event in 2010. Thanks guys. Tim.

[Grizzly4x4]

The TTC event we did in CO was an absolute blast! Run it just like Four Wheeler does the real one (scoring) and it will work out great.

In the 1:1 competition each event is based on time, and then based on distance for those that don't finish an event.
My suggestion to save time measuring distance is to use progress gates placed along the course. This can be used to measure distance traveled on the course.

For example:
Out of 10 competitors, 3 don't finish the Obstacle Course. The placing would be:
1st: 10 points, Driver A, 2:23
2nd: 9 points, Driver B, 2:52, :30 sec in penalties
3rd: 8 points, Driver C, 3:45
.
.
8th: 3 points, Driver H, 7 progress
9th: 2 points, Driver I, 5 progress
10th: 1 point, Driver J, 5 progress, :30 sec in penalties

This allows you to convert both time and distance to points. Just a suggestion based on my learings of the 1:1 TTC and the scale TTC we had here.
I have every year of TTC on DVD.

[War Pig]

Thanks for that Chris. That's exactly what I was going to do for scoring. I can't find my TTC DVD, I think one of my kids took it. I wish I had access to a couple years of them. I did find last years magazine coverage, so that's better than nothing. If anyone else has any other tips for me, please share.....

[team3six]

well I posted a couple of posts back the links to some vids they did up in canada, the guy who does them is on beatyourtruck.com go the name MeDiC. He has the rules set for his runs. If that helps any Tim

[sally1800]

I am going to try to make it

[Grizzly4x4]

Originally Posted by War Pig

Thanks for that Chris. That's exactly what I was going to do for scoring. I can't find my TTC DVD, I think one of my kids took it. I wish I had access to a couple years of them. I did find last years magazine coverage, so that's better than nothing. If anyone else has any other tips for me, please share.....

I can ship you a couple of mine Tim.

[madscrambler]

I think it should go Friday 1.9 Saturday 2.2 and on Sunday have a day for those who busted there balls to set this up to get a chance to have a trial run, Top truck run or what ever. But I want to drive with Ben agian. Not just watch him stress out. No mater what I will be there. I don't really care about 2.2 comp. since the change..

[slobin3d]

Originally Posted by madscrambler

I think it should go Friday 1.9 Saturday 2.2 and on Sunday have a day for those who busted there balls to set this up to get a chance to have a trial run, Top truck run or what ever. But I want to drive with Ben agian. Not just watch him stress out. No mater what I will be there. I don't really care about 2.2 comp. since the change..

Ben and I both have been building up the fleet and have had plans of some sort to get some serious wheel time in.

[microgoat]

I'm ready for the XC class



Pretty sure I'll have the only AMC there.

[hotwheels000]

I would like to come down and help you with this Tim,LMK

TTC for sure,I was never a fan of the cc-01 or a class for it at the MSD nats but would have done it just to have a overall shot.

I would suggest that competitors are required to run a different truck than your 1.9 or 2.2 entry

Originally Posted by War Pig

Sweet, that's the reaction I was looking for!

I'm planning a small TTC in Oregon in November. Maybe it'll be a dry run for something in Montana. I'm mostly looking to see what kind of time it will require to run the trucks through 7 courses in a day. I'm planning to run just 10 rigs, and see how that goes. If everything goes smoothly, and I can figure out how to score it fairly, I wouldn't mind doing it again in May. I've been watching the TTC DVD from 2007, and reading some old mags, and getting ideas from them.

[HotRodJosh]

Originally Posted by War Pig

I wish I had access to a couple years of them. I did find last years magazine coverage, so that's better than nothing. If anyone else has any other tips for me, please share.....

I have a TTC on VHS, one of the earlier one's (late 90's I think) before guy's were building strictly for TTC. Your welcome to it. I'll bring it to Glenn's.

[sloppy]

Originally Posted by hotwheels000

I would suggest that competitors are required to run a different truck than your 1.9 or 2.2 entry

Why?? Most 2.2's will fit the description of a top truck anyway. if the truck can last and man up to real top truck stuff whats the difference where else it was run??

[microgoat]

Yeah, that build-a-special-rig rule killed off our TTC in a hurry.

[War Pig]

Originally Posted by HotRodJosh

I have a TTC on VHS, one of the earlier one's (late 90's I think) before guy's were building strictly for TTC. Your welcome to it. I'll bring it to Glenn's.

I don't have a VHS player, but thanks. Griz is sending me a couple DVD's. I've watched the 2005 TTC a couple times, and ours is going to be AWESOME! I already have the spots picked out, and it's going to be just like Hollister. We're going to ride my train up and down my RR tracks from course to course. Hopefully we have a couple people shooting video and taking pics.

[War Pig]

Originally Posted by hotwheels000

I would suggest that competitors are required to run a different truck than your 1.9 or 2.2 entry

I think that if we do this at next years MSD Nats, we should allow people to run whatever rigs they want for the first year, and see how it goes. Maybe each year it can get more extreme until it approaches the level that the 1:1 TTC is this year with huge tires, rear steer, and dig. Purpose built trucks with nothing on their minds but complete domination. I know that I would only be able to run my Bronco at the 2010 MSD Nats, I don't have the money or time right now to build a TTC only truck.

[team3six]

So being new to this idea and seeing it on a couple of vids so far. what exactly is a TTC truck look like? maybe I can squeeze one in before the end of the year.

[rockrawler]

Originally Posted by team3six

So being new to this idea and seeing it on a couple of vids so far. what exactly is a TTC truck look like? maybe I can squeeze one in before the end of the year.

Here's some pics of TTC rigs.