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jdawg53 11-23-2010 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by dragrcr (Post 2755367)
My lhs was told around the 24th


Give or take a few days, that date is pretty good.
J

greenjeeper92 11-23-2010 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by jdawg53 (Post 2756721)
give or take a few days, that date is pretty good.
J

yipppe :)

greenjeeper92 11-23-2010 07:41 AM

now if only we can get futuba to let the death grip of harley so he can give us a real 100% positive date!

scatterbrains 11-23-2010 07:59 AM

Radio looks real good Harley. Def a dx3r killer if they get the DT upgrade done

jeepcj776 11-23-2010 11:42 AM

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXAAFF&P=FR

greenjeeper92 11-23-2010 11:44 AM

Just bought it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

big_boss 11-23-2010 01:02 PM

Hi
Can Harley or anyone els please show us how to get the 10% increment bias programed to the DT2 button?
A few pages back he (Harley) said he would do a vid , maybe I missed it...
I know he is a busy man & all but I can't figure it out by my lonesome.:oops:

Harley 11-23-2010 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by big_boss (Post 2757245)
Hi
Can Harley or anyone els please show us how to get the 10% increment bias programed to the DT2 button?
A few pages back he (Harley) said he would do a vid , maybe I missed it...
I know he is a busy man & all but I can't figure it out by my lonesome.:oops:

Sorry, I am without a radio at the moment but I will do it from memory quick.

Go to the menu and select DIAL SW

Scroll to the list of DT switches

Set the DT switch that you want to control the mixing and change the value to the ESC-R setting

Set the value below that to 10 (meaning 10%)

big_boss 11-24-2010 07:22 AM

Thanks Harley, works like a charm.

Harley 11-24-2010 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by big_boss (Post 2758643)
Thanks Harley, works like a charm.

Good deal "thumbsup"

aaugman 11-24-2010 07:40 AM

I ordered one from Japan a few weeks ago, is there a way to see what firmware version it has ? How would i get the newest update ?

Harley 11-24-2010 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by aaugman (Post 2758671)
I ordered one from Japan a few weeks ago, is there a way to see what firmware version it has ? How would i get the newest update ?

You will have the original and only software version. If we get an update it will be posted on what to do.

dusty sweep 11-25-2010 04:57 AM

Harley.

Any idea when they will do the update.

I am thinking of getting one from tower hobbies but am not sure if it is the original one or the one with the updates that you have spoken about earlier on in this thread.

Any idea if they are going to do the updates or when.

Thanks

dragrcr 11-25-2010 09:00 AM

Read the thread.....:roll: There is no update as of yet, he's trying to get one, if there is one you will be able to send in your radio and have it updated. Anything you get will be without the update right now.

stubs179 11-28-2010 03:28 PM

Will you be able to "add rear" effectively? I have tried sticks before and i am just not comfortable with them. But i really like that you are able to add pressure from the rear tires while turning the fronts slow, mainly in off camber situations. It is possible with the 4pk, correct? Can you use the DT switch to put the rear to say 140% and then back to 90% quick if you needed to?

Aussie Nerd 11-28-2010 03:54 PM

You could have one DT set for 10% increment for minor adjustments and another set for 30-40% adjustment for quick changes. Also you can only go up to 120% on the 4pl.

Kieren

stubs179 11-28-2010 04:24 PM

Is 120% enough? Seems like it should go to 150% at the least?

So if you set on to 30% increments (and say it was normaly at 90%) it would go to 120% with one click and then back to 90% with 1 click the other way?

Harley 11-28-2010 05:06 PM

120% is enough, until you have driven a dual ESC rig you won't understand how different 20% is.

EvilTwin v2 11-28-2010 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Harley0706 (Post 2765547)
120% is enough, until you have driven a dual ESC rig you won't understand how different 20% is.

Definately...

I haven't had my 4pk long, but I have yet to ever need to drop below 80% rear with the proportional. 120% is plenty.

Aussie Nerd 11-28-2010 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by stubs179 (Post 2765481)
Is 120% enough? Seems like it should go to 150% at the least?

So if you set on to 30% increments (and say it was normaly at 90%) it would go to 120% with one click and then back to 90% with 1 click the other way?

If I remember correctly axial OD or UD compared to stock gears is around 4-5% so that makes 20% A LOT.

Yes exactly.

Kieren

Harley 11-29-2010 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Aussie Nerd (Post 2765827)
If I remember correctly axial OD or UD compared to stock gears is around 4-5% so that makes 20% A LOT.

Yes exactly.

Kieren

Axial is about 13% but still the 20% is plenty.

Aussie Nerd 11-29-2010 03:53 PM

I stand corrected;-)

Harley is there any potential detrimental effect of coiling the antenna inside the case? Did this last night as I dislike antenna's and there is no real need for a lot of range on a crawler. And any suggestion's on why an FXR would be glitching, it will bump forward maybe every 5 minutes. It is the rear ESC and it has the red wire disconnected if that makes any difference.

Thanks
Kieren

Harley 11-29-2010 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Aussie Nerd (Post 2767285)
I stand corrected;-)

Harley is there any potential detrimental effect of coiling the antenna inside the case? Did this last night as I dislike antenna's and there is no real need for a lot of range on a crawler. And any suggestion's on why an FXR would be glitching, it will bump forward maybe every 5 minutes. It is the rear ESC and it has the red wire disconnected if that makes any difference.

Thanks
Kieren

I don't ever coil mine in the case but I always coil them. I have never had a problem, but I haven't had too much drive time on the FHSS RX's yet.

What do you mean by "bump forward"

Aussie Nerd 11-29-2010 04:27 PM

Ok, well I'll see how it goes when I go for a proper drive tomorrow.

The motor will rotate forward at a small increase on the correct throttle value for a very short period of time before returning to it's correct throttle value. Similar to just 'tapping' the throttle.

Kieren

dragrcr 11-30-2010 10:45 PM

Got mine this evening"thumbsup" feels great, got it all set up, now I just need another fxr...

aaugman 12-01-2010 12:34 PM

Mine arrived the other day also, it took a bit to get it programed, I'm still working on the mixing part and getting the rear to have the "bump up" settings, That's the project for tonight,

Can i wrap the antenna inside the receiver ? or do i have to leave it full length extended ?

Harley 12-01-2010 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by aaugman (Post 2771685)
Mine arrived the other day also, it took a bit to get it programed, I'm still working on the mixing part and getting the rear to have the "bump up" settings, That's the project for tonight,

Can i wrap the antenna inside the receiver ? or do i have to leave it full length extended ?

Bump up? There really isn't anything different, just program one of the DT switches to ESC-RT. You can turn the rears up or down off that, pretty simple. "thumbsup"

aaugman 12-01-2010 12:40 PM

How do i get to the screen to do that ? Sorry for being so naive, Futaba radios are like greek to me still. I havn't messed with it for longer than 15 mins

Harley 12-01-2010 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by aaugman (Post 2771699)
How do i get to the screen to do that ? Sorry for being so naive, Futaba radios are like greek to me still. I havn't messed with it for longer than 15 mins

Menu --> Dial SW
DT(#):ESC-RT
........: 10
........: NOR

Harley 12-01-2010 12:44 PM

As soon as I get my radio back from Futaba next week I will get the videos done ASAP "thumbsup"

aaugman 12-01-2010 12:55 PM

That worked, But the rear doesn't turn on as fast as the front does, there is a delay. Could it be the calibration of the esc to the radio ? Then even though the button works it doesn't make the rear turn any faster.

Harley 12-01-2010 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by aaugman (Post 2771728)
That worked, But the rear doesn't turn on as fast as the front does, there is a delay. Could it be the calibration of the esc to the radio ? Then even though the button works it doesn't make the rear turn any faster.

You need to make sure both ESC's are calibrated equally with everything at 100% (NOT 120%). Then of course things like gear mesh, weight difference, etc will effect things. Overall top speed will still be the same front to rear because both ESC's will be topped out at 100%.

aaugman 12-01-2010 12:58 PM

on the fxr's there's no way to set the calibration with the hotwire right ? it can only be done manually ?

Harley 12-01-2010 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by aaugman (Post 2771735)
on the fxr's there's no way to set the calibration with the hotwire right ? it can only be done manually ?

Since calibration is done with the radio the only way to do it is "manually".

Mini 12-01-2010 01:13 PM

Harley, was looking at one of the quick videos you made and notice you can offcourse turn down the rear but can you switch back and forth from the back and front motor or once you set a motor that is the only one you can turn down and up. Am asking cause I have seen guys turn down the rear and turn up the front. Or is mixing when you turn down the rear the front turns up automatic and the other way around. Thanks.

Harley 12-01-2010 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mini (Post 2771761)
Harley, was looking at one of the quick videos you made and notice you can offcourse turn down the rear but can you switch back and forth from the back and front motor or once you set a motor that is the only one you can turn down and up. Am asking cause I have seen guys turn down the rear and turn up the front. Or is mixing when you turn down the rear the front turns up automatic and the other way around. Thanks.

Just like on the 4PK, you are only adjusting one motor (the rear). When you turn down the rear it just appears that the front is going faster but it is the same as it always was.

aaugman 12-01-2010 03:56 PM

I figured out wh the front and rear are different, I wired it up just like your (harley) Xr and the battery goes from the deans to the first esc and then the second, If i reverse the motor wires then the rear starts first, So i have to run from the deans to each esc, parallel no series i guess. 2 more wires but not the end of the world.

Mini 12-01-2010 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Harley0706 (Post 2771764)
Just like on the 4PK, you are only adjusting one motor (the rear). When you turn down the rear it just appears that the front is going faster but it is the same as it always was.


So when someone says turn up the front they are really turning down the rear? Just want to get this right I thought they were turn up the front or rear when they said that not just turning down the rear.

So if am in front dig and someone says turn up the front how would I do that?

Just trying to understand futaba language lol "thumbsup"

Harley 12-01-2010 04:52 PM

I think you have it. If someone ever says turn up the front they just mean turn down the rear. I never say that, I always say turn down the rear "thumbsup"


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Originally Posted by Mini (Post 2772129)
So when someone says turn up the front they are really turning down the rear? Just want to get this right I thought they were turn up the front or rear when they said that not just turning down the rear.

So if am in front dig and someone says turn up the front how would I do that?

Just trying to understand futaba language lol "thumbsup"


aaugman 12-01-2010 05:02 PM

Mine seems to have a glitch, sometimes the rear randomly Jolts, Any idea what that would be from ?


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