11-23-2021, 04:20 AM | #261 |
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11-23-2021, 06:52 PM | #262 |
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| Re: Silent outrunner and ESC for less then $60 Oh okay, the one that I have is 1.20, I think this one has been taken out also since I don't see it anymore in the github. Btw, do you have the default / baseline settings that works for this firmware, it's for my reference in case the settings changed during the flashing process.
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11-23-2021, 06:56 PM | #263 |
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| Re: Silent outrunner and ESC for less then $60 No, I was talking about HuckFlynn's AM32 crawler. I have both esc, the reference for Holmes is due to my experience with it that might also happened here which is some of the settings are changed during the upgrade process.
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11-23-2021, 07:34 PM | #264 |
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For AM32 v1.80 there are two version of firmware for iflight, the second with BLITZ_G in the name. Any info on this BLITZ_G version? Quick update: i have just try flashing the AM32 Crawler v1.10, it's still run too hot for my iflight 55. After that I flashed the AM32 v1.80, and its been running cooler, but not as cool as the v1.74 dixie low heat Last edited by Yudi13; 11-23-2021 at 10:17 PM. |
11-24-2021, 02:21 AM | #265 | |
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| Re: Silent outrunner and ESC for less then $60 Quote:
I will wait until Alka comes up with something more stable. BTW the "blitz" version I wont touch...too many funky features with it . Last edited by themountain; 11-25-2021 at 01:25 AM. | |
11-24-2021, 08:17 PM | #266 |
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Well, after some tinkering with the v1.80, I can make it run as cool as the v1.74 low heat made by voodoobrew. Turns out in the new config tool (1.82) there is an option to adjust sine mode power, I turn down my setings to 5 and now it's running cool (still limited to indoor trial). I also tinkering with the other settings to get the smoothest transition between sine and trap. Here is my latest settings: Tick on: Complementary PWM Variable PWM Bi-directional Brake On Stop Stall Protection Sinusoidal Startup 0 Timing Advance 50 Start Up Power (lowest) 10 Stopped Brake Level 25 Sine Startup Range 5 Sine Mode Power 10 Running Brake Level (I truly don't know what the difference between this and Stopped Brake Level, is this similar to Brake Ramp settings in Castle esc?) This settings might not be applicable to your esc/motor/gearing combo Here is mine: ESC is an iFLight Succexx 55A Motor is Holmes Revolver V2 1800kv Gearbox 3 Gears with (i think) 13t pinion and 87t spur AR44 axles (24/8 front 30/8 rear) So far, this settings give me the smoothest sine to trap transition Last edited by Yudi13; 11-24-2021 at 08:35 PM. |
11-25-2021, 01:31 AM | #267 |
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11-25-2021, 10:33 AM | #268 | |
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| Re: Silent outrunner and ESC for less then $60 Quote:
Not the same ESC or firmware, but you'll notice some similarities in the video below. 😉 https://youtu.be/Hkc78rt1Oic | |
11-25-2021, 07:29 PM | #269 |
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| Re: Silent outrunner and ESC for less then $60 In my trial, higher start up power will exaggerate the cogging like effect during the transition from sine to trap, by reducing the starting power those effect is reduced. But then again, after I tinkering more with the f/w v1.8 with the new 1.82 config tool which has the sine mode power adjustment, I can achieve a smoother transition through lowering the sine mode power (5) but at the same time widening the sine startup range to the max (25). After doing this, the change on the start up power (50, 100, or 120) does not significantly change the transition anymore.
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11-25-2021, 07:36 PM | #270 | |
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Thank you Last edited by Yudi13; 11-25-2021 at 07:53 PM. | |
11-26-2021, 01:28 AM | #271 |
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11-28-2021, 02:22 PM | #272 |
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Higher startup power increases torque I think. So it should cog less. But when it cogs it is more obvious. I could be or probably am wrong though. I forget things really fast. Sent from my SM-N986U using Tapatalk |
11-29-2021, 12:32 AM | #273 |
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| Re: Silent outrunner and ESC for less then $60 Agree, this is what I have been observed, when it's cogging increasing the startup power makes the cog more pronounced. That's why I reduced it. But now with the sine wave power adjustable, I can adjust the sine wave power lower (5), but at the same time maximize its range (25) without being fear of overheating. In my setup, this has effectively reduce the cogging from noticeable vibration to a single bump on transition from sine to trap. I have now increase my startup power back to 100. If Alka could further expand the sine wave range (perhaps to 40), the transition might be similar to the Holmes Crawlmaster Mini transition.
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11-29-2021, 04:21 AM | #274 |
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Nice wiki entry ! https://github.com/AlkaMotors/AM32-M...gs-Explanation |
11-29-2021, 04:22 AM | #275 |
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| Re: Silent outrunner and ESC for less then $60 Sorry..but then you "observed" wrong ..maybe your drive train is dragging somewhere Last edited by themountain; 11-29-2021 at 07:52 AM. |
11-29-2021, 05:40 AM | #276 | |
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| Re: Silent outrunner and ESC for less then $60 Quote: It needs some input from those who know more so I'm hoping it will develop further Sent from my Pixel 4a using Tapatalk | |
11-29-2021, 07:52 AM | #277 |
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11-29-2021, 01:30 PM | #278 |
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Perhaps the startup power is to trap as sine startup power is to sine. Meaning startup power will not affect sinusoidal speed but increasing it will increase the initial trap speed and torque creating a larger speed difference between trap and sine and thus a larger more obvious transition jump and bump in speed. Not the same as cogging though. Sine startup has a much greater effect on sine torque and startup power has more effect on initial trap speed. Meaning increasing sine startup is a terrible way and not the way to make the sine to trap speed gap smaller. Mostly increasing sine start makes more heat an reduces sine cogging. I'm kinda guessing. I haven't gone over the code in months. I never totally understood or looked into startup power. Sine startup I am more familiar with because initially it was to high for the wraith. And too low for scx24 motors. So I had to edit the code manually for them. Sent from my SM-N986U using Tapatalk Last edited by Voodoobrew; 11-29-2021 at 01:34 PM. |
11-29-2021, 01:36 PM | #279 |
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Back in my day we didn't have these fancy sliders and it was up hill both ways. Sent from my SM-N986U using Tapatalk |
11-29-2021, 05:32 PM | #280 | |
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