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04-15-2021, 03:36 AM | #1 |
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| HH Crawlmaster Sport 550 13T
Hi guys. Just got this new motor for the TRX4. A Hobbywing 1080 ESC is in the mail and it should be here in a couple of days. Looking at the motor I have a couple of questions. There is no indication on the motor, or any paperwork in the package on how to solder the cables. Just a small red dot on one side, which I pressume that it's for the red wire. The TRX uses reverse rotation, so I will have to solder the black cable there instead? Also do I need to break the engine when I install it, and what is the best way to do it? |
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04-15-2021, 04:20 AM | #2 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: The Big Island
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| Re: HH Crawlmaster Sport 550 13T
You can do it two ways, either will work. 1. Solder red/red black/black, plug them in normally and then just change motor direction in the 1080. 2. Solder red/black black/red then you’re good to go. I’ve never broke in a motor before, just run them right out of the package. I’m not sure it’ll make a huge-if any difference. _________________ https://www.instagram.com/island_crawlaz/ 79 F150 SCX10 ii TRXWalker |
04-15-2021, 04:23 AM | #3 |
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| Re: HH Crawlmaster Sport 550 13T
I am not aware of any kind of break in in electric motors, but maybe someone can chime in. With regards to wiring you can solder both wires anyway and if rotation is not correct you can either: reverse black and red; reverse motor rotation in esc parameters (rotation= CW or CCW), or you can even reverse throttle channel but if you do this recalibrate your esc after. I think its easier to go with option 2) thru esc programing. Best regards |
04-15-2021, 05:13 AM | #4 |
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| Re: HH Crawlmaster Sport 550 13T
Since when can you change motor direction in the 1080? What black magic is this... If it drives backwards when you want to go forwards there is only one correct way to fix it. You pull the trigger for forwards and watch the light on the 1080 esc, It should be green. if it is green and you are going in reverse then you swap the motor wires. If the light is red, then you change the direction in the remote controller. Instead of switching the motor wires you can take the motor apart and rotate the can...ridiculous. Any other way is incorrect. Last edited by Voodoobrew; 04-15-2021 at 05:16 AM. |
04-15-2021, 05:31 AM | #5 |
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| Re: HH Crawlmaster Sport 550 13T
So, is there a proper way to do it right from the start, to avoid blind tests?
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04-15-2021, 05:47 AM | #6 | |
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| Re: HH Crawlmaster Sport 550 13T Quote:
My bad!! | |
04-15-2021, 05:57 AM | #7 |
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| Re: HH Crawlmaster Sport 550 13T
What about the app, through the bluetooth link? will that work to reverse the rotation prior to calibrating the esc?
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04-15-2021, 07:01 AM | #8 | |
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| Re: HH Crawlmaster Sport 550 13T Quote:
I don’t think that you can change it in anyway, because that esc doesn’t have that parameter. You should solder wires and if motor rotation is not correct just reverse black and red, or you can just try it before soldering if you can. | |
04-15-2021, 07:32 AM | #9 |
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| Re: HH Crawlmaster Sport 550 13T
Voodoobrew is correct on this one; swapping the wires is the way to go. As far as break-in, there is a procedure for the Holmes Sport motors that can be found at the bottom of the product page. The procedure was written for the 540 motors, but it's the same link on all Sport motors. It's entirely up to you since the sport motors aren't terribly expensive. If doing the break-in helps the motor make better power and last longer, it's worth it for the short amount of time it takes. https://blog.holmeshobbies.com/holme...tion-and-care/ |
04-15-2021, 09:56 AM | #10 |
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| Re: HH Crawlmaster Sport 550 13T
If it goes faster forward then reverse you did it right no matter how you got there.
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04-15-2021, 10:08 AM | #11 | |
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| Re: HH Crawlmaster Sport 550 13T Quote:
You don't need to break in Holmes Hobbies motors. It is either unnecessary or done for you. That blog is pretty old. The effort it takes to mount the motor wires correctly the first time with 100% certainty is more work then reversing the wires. This is because not all cars have motors that mount using CCW as forwards. Most often it is not necessary to remove the motor from the vehicle to resolder or swap plugs. Last edited by Voodoobrew; 04-15-2021 at 10:18 AM. | |
04-15-2021, 12:34 PM | #12 | |
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04-15-2021, 12:43 PM | #13 | |
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| Re: HH Crawlmaster Sport 550 13T Quote:
I assume this is done with the motor off the car, right? | |
04-15-2021, 12:55 PM | #14 | |
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04-15-2021, 01:08 PM | #15 |
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04-15-2021, 02:59 PM | #16 |
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04-15-2021, 05:45 PM | #17 |
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| Re: HH Crawlmaster Sport 550 13T Even if it is "Wrong" it won't hurt anything. It may affect your throttle curve if you can set on that ESC and your reverse maybe faster than forward,
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04-16-2021, 06:45 AM | #18 |
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04-16-2021, 06:47 AM | #19 |
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04-20-2021, 05:58 AM | #20 | |
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| Re: HH Crawlmaster Sport 550 13T Quote:
What do people like the 1080? With as much money people spend why not spend the extra 30-40 dollars for an SW4? | |
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