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elbo · 05-21-2010, 04:22 AM

norbyx...I knew eventually the FJ would get the portal axles. i just decided to make it sooner rather than later. another set of portals are on the way to put back under the R1. i have full confidence that the axles can handle the speed. at the time, i didnt want to push the axles too hard with not having replacement parts onhand. sitting full throttle just spinning on climbs, good size jumps, and second gear wheelies from a stand still are just plain hard on ring and pinions(if you've ever seen madram11s' videos on youtube, thats how we drive our 2.2 trucks). that was really my only area of concern, ring and pinions and portal gears. i pulled them apart and although they show a little wear, its nothing i wouldnt expect or be concerned with at this point. the portal gears look great. my motor is 2580kv, but puts out close to 500 watts on 3s with only a 38 amp draw. its torquey, efficient, have the weight of a 540, and doesnt mind the mud and muck.

norbyx · 05-21-2010, 05:56 AM

What motor is it that you have on the Fj?

eric113 · 05-21-2010, 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elbo

norbyx...I knew eventually the FJ would get the portal axles. i just decided to make it sooner rather than later. another set of portals are on the way to put back under the R1. i have full confidence that the axles can handle the speed. at the time, i didnt want to push the axles too hard with not having replacement parts onhand. sitting full throttle just spinning on climbs, good size jumps, and second gear wheelies from a stand still are just plain hard on ring and pinions(if you've ever seen madram11s' videos on youtube, thats how we drive our 2.2 trucks). that was really my only area of concern, ring and pinions and portal gears. i pulled them apart and although they show a little wear, its nothing i wouldnt expect or be concerned with at this point. the portal gears look great. my motor is 2580kv, but puts out close to 500 watts on 3s with only a 38 amp draw. its torquey, efficient, have the weight of a 540, and doesnt mind the mud and muck.

You haven't puffed your lipo's running that motor ?

Puffed mine with 19t motor.

elbo · 05-21-2010, 07:47 AM

tom i think im going to let the cat of the bag...

the motor is a scorpion brushless outrunner. i got turned on to them by a friend of mine tom(holycaveman). they are powerful 380 size motors that draw very low amps. my 2200 30c lipo can handle 66 amps. the motor draws 38 amps while putting out 530 watts. add a few more amps for the servos and im still within the capabilities of my lipo. i think inrunners draw way more amps, i dont know this is my first brushless motor. there might be combos that are faster. this motor has tons of punch.

the other half of it is the transmission. in second gear im in the neighborhood of 25:1. thats with a 13t pinion and i have gone as high as an 18t. i have geared as low as a 9t and in 1st gear(knocking on 100:1), im crawling with also zero cogging. the summit trans is fun to play with. i was killing brushed motors before but the outrunner is handling it just fine.

eric113 · 05-21-2010, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elbo

tom i think im going to let the cat of the bag...

the motor is a scorpion brushless outrunner. i got turned on to them by a friend of mine tom(holycaveman). they are powerful 380 size motors that draw very low amps. my 2200 30c lipo can handle 66 amps. the motor draws 38 amps while putting out 530 watts. add a few more amps for the servos and im still within the capabilities of my lipo. i think inrunners draw way more amps, i dont know this is my first brushless motor. there might be combos that are faster. this motor has tons of punch.

the other half of it is the transmission. in second gear im in the neighborhood of 25:1. thats with a 13t pinion and i have gone as high as an 18t. i have geared as low as a 9t and in 1st gear(knocking on 100:1), im crawling with also zero cogging. the summit trans is fun to play with. i was killing brushed motors before but the outrunner is handling it just fine.

I think I found the motor.

Got any video ?

norbyx · 05-21-2010, 11:04 PM

any pictures of the motor??? How does it fit in the motor mount ... do you need an adapter ???

Knitewulfe · 05-23-2010, 09:38 AM

If its a 380 it probably needs an adapter. Holmes hobbies has some that look like they will work for something like that. I was considering doing a 3s-4s outrunner setup on my mmpro in my R1 when I get it. I'm interested in hearing more about this motor too.

EeePee · 05-23-2010, 10:08 AM

It's on this page: http://www.scorpionsystem.com/catalo...s/hk22/?page=2

elbo · 05-23-2010, 11:06 AM

yup it needs an adapter. i have the one from holmes hobbies. TWINSET has a nifty little adapter that he made for the stock R1 trans that i need to get a hold of(hint, hint

) there is a picture of the motor installed on the last page. i should have gotten some video this weekend. i was blasting the FJ around BattleGrounds. i blasted a rock hard enough to pop the lower link off the ball end and tore the ears out of the driveshaft yoke. the screws holding the the lower links bent. the axle housing has a pretty decent gouge in it too. other than that, nothing. repaired the driveshaft and was on my way. i was sure i had cracked the axle housing or broke something internally but the Gmade axles just laughed it off. im still very impressed

Knitewulfe · 05-23-2010, 07:44 PM

Hmm I'm wondering what will happen with one of those in an r1 on 6s with one of my mmpros.

Duuuuuuuude · 05-23-2010, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Knitewulfe

Hmm I'm wondering what will happen with one of those in an r1 on 6s with one of my mmpros.

Knitewulfe · 05-24-2010, 01:31 AM

I guess I'll have to find out.

Crawln Coles · 05-25-2010, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elbo

i should have gotten some video this weekend. i was blasting the FJ around BattleGrounds. i blasted a rock hard enough to pop the lower link off the ball end and tore the ears out of the driveshaft yoke. the screws holding the the lower links bent. the axle housing has a pretty decent gouge in it too. other than that, nothing. repaired the driveshaft and was on my way. i was sure i had cracked the axle housing or broke something internally but the Gmade axles just laughed it off. im still very impressed

It was cool to see the FJ this past weekend. You gotta let me drive it next time

I thought you did break the axle housing. You really blasted that rock! The way I saw you beating the FJ, I'm sold on these axles. Mine will be on the way soon

eric113 · 05-26-2010, 04:41 PM

elbo, Do you have any more pics of your steering and front suspension setup on the fj?

elbo · 05-26-2010, 05:00 PM

coles you definitely wont be dissapointed with these axles...cant wait to see what you put them under.

the axles are out of it getting fresh grease and doing a check of the gears. portal gears look great!. ring and pinion are starting to show a little wear but they look good. eric i will take some pics while im putting it back together tonite.

eric113 · 05-26-2010, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elbo

coles you definitely wont be dissapointed with these axles...cant wait to see what you put them under.

the axles are out of it getting fresh grease and doing a check of the gears. portal gears look great!. ring and pinion are starting to show a little wear but they look good. eric i will take some pics while im putting it back together tonite.

That really good to hear about the axles holding up to summit trans. I can't wait to order up the axles.

Sweet! Some overall shots of the rig too please.

dizrack · 05-31-2010, 11:29 PM

your fj is super cool, and is going to be the inspiration for my next build!!!

eric113 · 06-04-2010, 10:14 AM

Whats your wheelbase set at on the fj ?

elbo · 06-04-2010, 01:14 PM

13" wheelbase. thanks for looking guys. the FJ has been a very fun truck to build and drive. the Gmade portals have really put this truck over the top.

updates are coming soon...trying to get this lockright and hydro assist in the 4runner before my next wheeling trip. too many projects...

EeePee · 06-04-2010, 01:18 PM

I tell this mofo all the time he needs to get back on RCC and post up some pictures and shit.

05-23-2010, 11:06 AM	#49
elbo Quarry Creeper Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: land of make believe Posts: 413	yup it needs an adapter. i have the one from holmes hobbies. TWINSET has a nifty little adapter that he made for the stock R1 trans that i need to get a hold of(hint, hint) there is a picture of the motor installed on the last page. i should have gotten some video this weekend. i was blasting the FJ around BattleGrounds. i blasted a rock hard enough to pop the lower link off the ball end and tore the ears out of the driveshaft yoke. the screws holding the the lower links bent. the axle housing has a pretty decent gouge in it too. other than that, nothing. repaired the driveshaft and was on my way. i was sure i had cracked the axle housing or broke something internally but the Gmade axles just laughed it off. im still very impressed

06-04-2010, 10:14 AM	#58
eric113 Moderator Rule Breaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Austin, Tx Posts: 5,970	Whats your wheelbase set at on the fj ? Last edited by eric113; 06-04-2010 at 10:42 AM.

05-21-2010, 04:22 AM	#41
elbo Quarry Creeper Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: land of make believe Posts: 413	norbyx...I knew eventually the FJ would get the portal axles. i just decided to make it sooner rather than later. another set of portals are on the way to put back under the R1. i have full confidence that the axles can handle the speed. at the time, i didnt want to push the axles too hard with not having replacement parts onhand. sitting full throttle just spinning on climbs, good size jumps, and second gear wheelies from a stand still are just plain hard on ring and pinions(if you've ever seen madram11s' videos on youtube, thats how we drive our 2.2 trucks). that was really my only area of concern, ring and pinions and portal gears. i pulled them apart and although they show a little wear, its nothing i wouldnt expect or be concerned with at this point. the portal gears look great. my motor is 2580kv, but puts out close to 500 watts on 3s with only a 38 amp draw. its torquey, efficient, have the weight of a 540, and doesnt mind the mud and muck.

05-21-2010, 05:56 AM	#42
norbyx Rock Crawler Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: costa rica Posts: 705	What motor is it that you have on the Fj?

05-21-2010, 07:47 AM	#44
elbo Quarry Creeper Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: land of make believe Posts: 413	tom i think im going to let the cat of the bag... the motor is a scorpion brushless outrunner. i got turned on to them by a friend of mine tom(holycaveman). they are powerful 380 size motors that draw very low amps. my 2200 30c lipo can handle 66 amps. the motor draws 38 amps while putting out 530 watts. add a few more amps for the servos and im still within the capabilities of my lipo. i think inrunners draw way more amps, i dont know this is my first brushless motor. there might be combos that are faster. this motor has tons of punch. the other half of it is the transmission. in second gear im in the neighborhood of 25:1. thats with a 13t pinion and i have gone as high as an 18t. i have geared as low as a 9t and in 1st gear(knocking on 100:1), im crawling with also zero cogging. the summit trans is fun to play with. i was killing brushed motors before but the outrunner is handling it just fine.

05-21-2010, 11:04 PM	#46
norbyx Rock Crawler Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: costa rica Posts: 705	any pictures of the motor??? How does it fit in the motor mount ... do you need an adapter ???

05-23-2010, 09:38 AM	#47
Knitewulfe Pebble Pounder Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: South Korea Posts: 131	If its a 380 it probably needs an adapter. Holmes hobbies has some that look like they will work for something like that. I was considering doing a 3s-4s outrunner setup on my mmpro in my R1 when I get it. I'm interested in hearing more about this motor too.

05-23-2010, 10:08 AM	#48
EeePee MODERATOR™ Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 18,928	It's on this page: http://www.scorpionsystem.com/catalo...s/hk22/?page=2

05-23-2010, 07:44 PM	#50
Knitewulfe Pebble Pounder Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: South Korea Posts: 131	Hmm I'm wondering what will happen with one of those in an r1 on 6s with one of my mmpros.

05-24-2010, 01:31 AM	#52
Knitewulfe Pebble Pounder Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: South Korea Posts: 131	I guess I'll have to find out.

05-26-2010, 04:41 PM	#54
eric113 Moderator Rule Breaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Austin, Tx Posts: 5,970	elbo, Do you have any more pics of your steering and front suspension setup on the fj?

05-26-2010, 05:00 PM	#55
elbo Quarry Creeper Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: land of make believe Posts: 413	coles you definitely wont be dissapointed with these axles...cant wait to see what you put them under. the axles are out of it getting fresh grease and doing a check of the gears. portal gears look great!. ring and pinion are starting to show a little wear but they look good. eric i will take some pics while im putting it back together tonite.

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05-31-2010, 11:29 PM	#57
dizrack Newbie Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 29	your fj is super cool, and is going to be the inspiration for my next build!!!

06-04-2010, 01:14 PM	#59
elbo Quarry Creeper Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: land of make believe Posts: 413	13" wheelbase. thanks for looking guys. the FJ has been a very fun truck to build and drive. the Gmade portals have really put this truck over the top. updates are coming soon...trying to get this lockright and hydro assist in the 4runner before my next wheeling trip. too many projects...

06-04-2010, 01:18 PM	#60
EeePee MODERATOR™ Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 18,928	I tell this mofo all the time he needs to get back on RCC and post up some pictures and shit.

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