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Harley · 05-03-2007, 10:57 PM

A dual plate would be amazingly simple, just cut two copys out and and flip one backwards. Since the tranny is symetrical there are no worries. I actually thought about doing two motors but I just went brushless instead.

slowcrawl · 05-04-2007, 05:36 PM

Natedog: thanks of the kind words.. I had gone thru several configs. and about three pcs. of aluminum.. I did make sure I had some "air venting" holes to keep her cool..........

Natedog · 05-05-2007, 01:59 PM

Slowcrawl,

You won't have any cooling problems especially with that motor mount. Once you have your chassis and mounting all worked out, I'd either trim it down on the top and/or drill/cut/machine some lightening holes in it near the top to keep your COG as low as possible.

Out of curiosity and wanting the lowest gearing possible with the stock WK tranny, I bought a RRP 9 tooth pinion (RRP # 0090)

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXEW94&P=7

this morning and test fitted it...works with a Kimbrough 66 tooth spur gear! Kinda weird, I guess the modelling software isn't accounting for slight variations in each gear manufacturers tolerances or something. With my 65T lathe motor all the way up against the side of the WK tranny housing it fits and is even a little bit tight (no backlash at all). I'm going to buy a 64 tooth spur today and see how that is.

Harley · 05-05-2007, 02:43 PM

Glad to hear it all worked out like that. Modeling is not exact, but it gets us damn close.

slowcrawl · 05-05-2007, 04:11 PM

The spur is 48 pitch 92T & pinion is 21T running the Matrix Pro Lathe Motor 55T.........I ran this in the all stock WK setup. It was a really good combo VS the stock setup. The new mount will go into a new chasssis...........

Krylar · 05-07-2007, 09:39 AM

I actually managed to convert the original motor plate into a 90 degree clocked motor plate in under an hour. It worked flawlessly, however it did require shaving down the side of one screw slightly to allow the motor to fit close enough to the tranny. Not sure if thats an issue with the plate you guys are making or not. If anyone is interested let me know, I can post pictures/measurements of where to drill and dremel.

Harley · 05-07-2007, 09:47 AM

You can just use the template to do that actually. If you just cut out the template, lay it on the original piece and cut out the holes. Makes it much easier then having to guess little by little. You could have it done as fast as you could cut it basiclly. The up side to using this template and making a nice plate instead of the stock one is that you are allowed more area for mounting. With the motor clocked you obviously loose mounting positions, this has plenty of area to fix that. This template will still be very useful and make it much easier to customize the stock plate.

Josh

Natedog · 05-07-2007, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harley0706

You can just use the template to do that actually. If you just cut out the template, lay it on the original place and cut out the holes. Makes it much easier then having to guess little by little. You could have it done as fast as you could cut it basiclly. The up side to using this template and making a nice plate instead of the stock one is that you are allowed more area for mounting. With the motor clocked you obviously loose mounting positions, this has plenty of area to fix that. This template will still be very useful and make it much easier to customize the stock plate.

Josh

Exactly what I used the template for...works great!

hairba11 · 05-07-2007, 04:42 PM

I sent email to harley's posted addy, but maybe it missed, can I get a copy of the template? thanks.

theerbo@gmail.com

Harley · 05-07-2007, 05:19 PM

I hardly ever get a message caught in my spam filter but I will check. I will send a copy your way either way.

Josh

cartronicshn · 05-07-2007, 06:37 PM

Josh, thanks man, i got the templates

, i will get to work on them sometime this week and post pics of the results, thanks again

Harley · 05-07-2007, 08:52 PM

Hey no problem at all!

Who is the fool who rated the template threads low?!?

hairba11 · 05-08-2007, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harley0706

I checked the paper template against the design and concluded that Adobe PDF Maker actually shinks the print by almost 5%.

Josh

so do I print out at 105%, or play with it and make it work, or did you fix the scaling, or is the 1:0.9 scale on the print correct?
would that make it 111% to get full size?

Thanks,
Tim

Harley · 05-08-2007, 03:27 PM

The problem was address and the new templates are at the correct scale. nothing for you to do but print it out.

josh

Natedog · 05-08-2007, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harley0706

Hey no problem at all!

Who is the fool who rated the template threads low?!?

Probably some dipstick with nothing better to do...lol...offset that by rating it high, as it should be...lol.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harley0706

The problem was address and the new templates are at the correct scale. nothing for you to do but print it out.

josh

Yup, worked great for me!

hairba11 · 05-08-2007, 05:09 PM

sweet, thanks, I figure I'm going to cut this out of aluminum, then mount it on top of the stock plate. this will give me dual motor action. I have the tranny and motor laying on it's side now, so I will effectivly be raising the cg with the template, but keeping it lower than if the tranny stood upright. that should solve the power problem, then upgraded esc, bigger batt, beefier tranny, stickier tires, better axles......

cammok5 · 05-08-2007, 05:23 PM

whats a good gear set up for some more torque but also wheel speed for mud if useing the 27t motor?

Natedog · 05-08-2007, 07:38 PM

9/66 32 pitch is working for me.

Harley · 05-08-2007, 07:42 PM

I would just spend the money and get yourself a good lathe motor. I have one I will send to you pretty cheap if you just want to try a 55t integy.

Josh

cammok5 · 05-08-2007, 07:59 PM

i think the 55 would be toooo slow. if i buy a new motor i think id go with a 35t but im not to sure couse i still want speed.

oh btw ygpm

05-05-2007, 04:11 PM	#65
slowcrawl Rock Stacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: SUNNY-CITY Posts: 52	Clocked motor The spur is 48 pitch 92T & pinion is 21T running the Matrix Pro Lathe Motor 55T.........I ran this in the all stock WK setup. It was a really good combo VS the stock setup. The new mount will go into a new chasssis...........

05-07-2007, 09:47 AM	#67
Harley 20K Club Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sending illegals home one Hayabusa at a time. Posts: 22,981	You can just use the template to do that actually. If you just cut out the template, lay it on the original piece and cut out the holes. Makes it much easier then having to guess little by little. You could have it done as fast as you could cut it basiclly. The up side to using this template and making a nice plate instead of the stock one is that you are allowed more area for mounting. With the motor clocked you obviously loose mounting positions, this has plenty of area to fix that. This template will still be very useful and make it much easier to customize the stock plate. Josh Last edited by Harley; 05-07-2007 at 11:40 AM.

05-03-2007, 10:57 PM	#61
Harley 20K Club Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sending illegals home one Hayabusa at a time. Posts: 22,981	A dual plate would be amazingly simple, just cut two copys out and and flip one backwards. Since the tranny is symetrical there are no worries. I actually thought about doing two motors but I just went brushless instead.

05-04-2007, 05:36 PM	#62
slowcrawl Rock Stacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: SUNNY-CITY Posts: 52	Natedog: thanks of the kind words.. I had gone thru several configs. and about three pcs. of aluminum.. I did make sure I had some "air venting" holes to keep her cool..........

05-05-2007, 01:59 PM	#63
Natedog I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Corruptifornia Posts: 12,107	Slowcrawl, You won't have any cooling problems especially with that motor mount. Once you have your chassis and mounting all worked out, I'd either trim it down on the top and/or drill/cut/machine some lightening holes in it near the top to keep your COG as low as possible. Out of curiosity and wanting the lowest gearing possible with the stock WK tranny, I bought a RRP 9 tooth pinion (RRP # 0090) http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXEW94&P=7 this morning and test fitted it...works with a Kimbrough 66 tooth spur gear! Kinda weird, I guess the modelling software isn't accounting for slight variations in each gear manufacturers tolerances or something. With my 65T lathe motor all the way up against the side of the WK tranny housing it fits and is even a little bit tight (no backlash at all). I'm going to buy a 64 tooth spur today and see how that is.

05-05-2007, 02:43 PM	#64
Harley 20K Club Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sending illegals home one Hayabusa at a time. Posts: 22,981	Glad to hear it all worked out like that. Modeling is not exact, but it gets us damn close.

05-07-2007, 09:39 AM	#66
Krylar Newbie Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Sanger Posts: 6	I actually managed to convert the original motor plate into a 90 degree clocked motor plate in under an hour. It worked flawlessly, however it did require shaving down the side of one screw slightly to allow the motor to fit close enough to the tranny. Not sure if thats an issue with the plate you guys are making or not. If anyone is interested let me know, I can post pictures/measurements of where to drill and dremel.

05-07-2007, 04:42 PM	#69
hairba11 RCC Addict Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: St. Louis (High Ridge) Posts: 1,279	I sent email to harley's posted addy, but maybe it missed, can I get a copy of the template? thanks. theerbo@gmail.com

05-07-2007, 05:19 PM	#70
Harley 20K Club Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sending illegals home one Hayabusa at a time. Posts: 22,981	I hardly ever get a message caught in my spam filter but I will check. I will send a copy your way either way. Josh

05-07-2007, 06:37 PM	#71
cartronicshn I wanna be Dave Join Date: May 2006 Location: HONDURAS...ROCK HEAVEN Posts: 5,076	Josh, thanks man, i got the templates , i will get to work on them sometime this week and post pics of the results, thanks again

05-07-2007, 08:52 PM	#72
Harley 20K Club Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sending illegals home one Hayabusa at a time. Posts: 22,981	Hey no problem at all! Who is the fool who rated the template threads low?!?

05-08-2007, 03:27 PM	#74
Harley 20K Club Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sending illegals home one Hayabusa at a time. Posts: 22,981	The problem was address and the new templates are at the correct scale. nothing for you to do but print it out. josh

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05-08-2007, 05:09 PM	#76
hairba11 RCC Addict Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: St. Louis (High Ridge) Posts: 1,279	sweet, thanks, I figure I'm going to cut this out of aluminum, then mount it on top of the stock plate. this will give me dual motor action. I have the tranny and motor laying on it's side now, so I will effectivly be raising the cg with the template, but keeping it lower than if the tranny stood upright. that should solve the power problem, then upgraded esc, bigger batt, beefier tranny, stickier tires, better axles......

05-08-2007, 05:23 PM	#77
cammok5 Rock Crawler Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: nc Posts: 867	whats a good gear set up for some more torque but also wheel speed for mud if useing the 27t motor?

05-08-2007, 07:38 PM	#78
Natedog I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Corruptifornia Posts: 12,107	9/66 32 pitch is working for me.

05-08-2007, 07:42 PM	#79
Harley 20K Club Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sending illegals home one Hayabusa at a time. Posts: 22,981	I would just spend the money and get yourself a good lathe motor. I have one I will send to you pretty cheap if you just want to try a 55t integy. Josh

05-08-2007, 07:59 PM	#80
cammok5 Rock Crawler Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: nc Posts: 867	i think the 55 would be toooo slow. if i buy a new motor i think id go with a 35t but im not to sure couse i still want speed. oh btw ygpm

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