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04-07-2009, 10:33 AM
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|  My AX10 order help me prune it. LOL
cheaper list below
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04-07-2009, 10:33 AM
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cheaper list below
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04-07-2009, 10:44 AM
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cheaper list below
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04-07-2009, 10:45 AM
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I got to trim like 500.00 off this somehow.
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04-07-2009, 10:58 AM
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| Rock Crawler Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Columbia, TN
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First off which way are you going with it, Edge or Eclipse? Also you've got MIP driveshafts listed as well as Punishers, that's quite a bit of money there. You wont need things like the driveshaft rings when you're going with the metal driveshafts. Don't get the delrin boomerang, you'll want aluminum on that. TCS has the DX3r http://www.tcscrawlers.com/Spektrum-...o-p-16833.html Personally starting out I would cut out those high dollar aluminum axle housings, because you really don't need them, and they hurt you in the rocks more than help. Small stuff you can get rid of as well are the 106mm links and the chassis spacers if you're going to order the kit. Also on your internal springs don't get the hard strength. You will want either mediums or softs, the hard ones don't really have any give to them at all on these things. Also get rid of the Hot Racing servo saver, you don't want that on a crawler. Instead look into getting this servo over the 5955..... http://www.tcscrawlers.com/10-OFF-Hi...e-p-16189.html It's the newer version of the 5955 and the ones that I have bought come with an aluminum servo horn. |
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04-07-2009, 11:02 AM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Tucson, AZ
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Then I would switch out the radio you have selected for a cheaper one. Go with a cheaper charger like the duratrax onyx 230 ($80). Go with a cheaper servo like the JR Ds8711 ($135). Go with cheaper batteries. The Poly RC PQ-1500XP-2S lipo battery ($25) is an awesome battery and it uses the same cells as thunderpower batteries. http://www.rclipos.com/RCL.html |
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04-07-2009, 11:09 AM
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Ok, here's a new list, still not much better. TCS Eclipse AX10 Scorpion Direct Bolt on Tube Frame (Black) (US Patent Pending) Our Patent Pending Hybrid TVP/Tuber design allows us to bring you a great direct bolt on tube frame for your AX10 Scorpion at a great price. This frame is also very light at 5.9 ounces. Shown with optional body panels. $89.99 x = $89.99 Delete item -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Axial Racing Machined High Clearance Links Grey (2) #AX30469 Axial Racing Machined High Clearance Links Grey (2) #AX30469 $25.99 x = $51.98 Delete item -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Axial Racing AX10 Scorpion Color Pack Grey #AXA1432 Axial Racing AX10 Scorpion Color Pack Grey #AXA1432 $37.99 x = $37.99 Delete item -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Axial Racing Aluminum Knuckle Black (2 each) #30496 Axial Racing Aluminum Knuckle Black (2 each) #30496 $25.99 x = $51.98 Delete item -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Axial Racing Aluminum C Hub Carrier for AX10 Scorpion #AX30495 Axial Racing Aluminum C Hub Carrier for AX10 Scorpion #AX30495 $25.99 x = $51.98 Delete item -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Integy Heavy Duty Steel Gear Set for Axial Racing AX10 Scorpion #C22868 Integy Heavy Duty Steel Gear Set for Axial Racing AX10 Scorpion #C22868 $29.99 x = $29.99 Delete item -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Sale! $4 off - TCS Black Anodized Aluminum Upper Link/Servo Mount for Axial AX-10 Scorpion (1 each) US Patent Pending TCS Black Anodized Aluminum Upper Link/Servo Mount for Axial AX-10 Scorpion (1 each) US Patent Pending $7.99 x = $7.99 Delete item -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Axial Racing Upper Link Plate for Axial AX10 Scorpion #AX30497 Axial Racing Upper Link Plate for Axial AX10 Scorpion #AX30497 $12.99 x = $12.99 Delete item -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Axial Racing 12mm Aluminum Hex Hub (black) (4pcs) #AX30429 Axial Racing 12mm Aluminum Hex Hub (black) (4pcs) #AX30429 $4.89 x = $4.89 Delete item Last edited by knuckleslammer; 04-07-2009 at 11:14 AM. |
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04-07-2009, 11:09 AM
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|  Axial Racing Upper Link Plate for Axial AX10 Scorpion #AX30497 Axial Racing Upper Link Plate for Axial AX10 Scorpion #AX30497 $12.99 x = $12.99  Axial Racing 12mm Aluminum Hex Hub (black) (4pcs) #AX30429 Axial Racing 12mm Aluminum Hex Hub (black) (4pcs) #AX30429 $4.89 x = $4.89  MIP C-Drive Spline Set for Axial AX10 Scorpion (2 each) #08101 MIP C-Drive Spline Set for Axial AX10 Scorpion (2 each) #08101 $38.99 x = $38.99  Axial Racing Slipper Clutch #AX30414 Axial Racing Slipper Clutch #AX30414 $25.99 x = $25.99  Hot Racing 6061 Aluminum Center Gearbox for AX10 #SCP3801 Hot Racing 6061 Aluminum Center Gearbox for AX10 #SCP3801 $33.88 x = $33.88  TCS Edge Body Panel Kit TCS Edge Body Panel Kit $12.99 x = $12.99  TCS Edge hardware kit TCS Edge hardware kit $4.49 x = $4.49  Axial Threaded Aluminum Pipe 6x106mm (2) #AX30441 Axial Threaded Aluminum Pipe 6x106mm (2) #AX30441 $8.00 x = $8.00  Axial Racing AX10 Scorpion Rear Steer Kit #AX30492 Axial Racing AX10 Scorpion Rear Steer Kit #AX30492 $35.00 x = $35.00  Hot Racing Aluminum Upper Link Mount AX10 Scorpion (black) #SCP0801 Hot Racing Aluminum Upper Link Mount AX10 Scorpion (black) #SCP0801 $18.99 x = $37.98  On Sale! $2 off - TCS Delrin Boomerang Upper Link Mount for Axial AX-10 Scorpion (1 each) US Patent Pending TCS Boomerang Upper Link Mount for Axial AX-10 Scorpion (1 each) $5.99 x = $5.99  On Sale! $20 off - Axial AX10 Scorpion #AX90001 Axial AX10 Scorpion $199.99 x = $199.99  $10 OFF! - Hitec HS-7955TG Robot Servo - Ultra High Torque Hitec HS-7955TG Robot Servo - Ultra High Torque $98.99 x = $197.98  Spektrum DX3R 3 Channel Radio Spektrum DX3R 3 Channel Radio $319.99 x = $319.99 Subtotal:  |
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04-07-2009, 11:15 AM
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| Pebble Pounder Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Worcester
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Ok, here's a new list, still not much better.  TCS Eclipse AX10 Scorpion Direct Bolt on Tube Frame (Black) (US Patent Pending) Our Patent Pending Hybrid TVP/Tuber design allows us to bring you a great direct bolt on tube frame for your AX10 Scorpion at a great price. This frame is also very light at 5.9 ounces. Shown with optional body panels.  Axial Racing Machined High Clearance Links Grey (2) #AX30469 Axial Racing Machined High Clearance Links Grey (2) #AX30469  Axial Racing AX10 Scorpion Color Pack Grey #AXA1432 Axial Racing AX10 Scorpion Color Pack Grey #AXA1432  Axial Racing Aluminum Knuckle Black (2 each) #30496 Axial Racing Aluminum Knuckle Black (2 each) #30496  Axial Racing Aluminum C Hub Carrier for AX10 Scorpion #AX30495 Axial Racing Aluminum C Hub Carrier for AX10 Scorpion #AX30495  Integy Heavy Duty Steel Gear Set for Axial Racing AX10 Scorpion #C22868 Integy Heavy Duty Steel Gear Set for Axial Racing AX10 Scorpion #C22868  On Sale! $4 off - TCS Black Anodized Aluminum Upper Link/Servo Mount for Axial AX-10 Scorpion (1 each) US Patent Pending TCS Black Anodized Aluminum Upper Link/Servo Mount for Axial AX-10 Scorpion (1 each) US Patent Pending Axial Racing Upper Link Plate for Axial AX10 Scorpion #AX30497 Axial Racing Upper Link Plate for Axial AX10 Scorpion #AX30497 Axial Racing 12mm Aluminum Hex Hub (black) (4pcs) #AX30429 Axial Racing 12mm Aluminum Hex Hub (black) (4pcs) #AX30429 |
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04-07-2009, 11:16 AM
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| Pebble Pounder Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Worcester
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| MIP C-Drive Spline Set for Axial AX10 Scorpion (2 each) #08101 MIP C-Drive Spline Set for Axial AX10 Scorpion (2 each) #08101 Axial Racing Slipper Clutch #AX30414 Axial Racing Slipper Clutch #AX30414 Hot Racing 6061 Aluminum Center Gearbox for AX10 #SCP3801 Hot Racing 6061 Aluminum Center Gearbox for AX10 #SCP3801 TCS Edge Body Panel Kit TCS Edge Body Panel Kit TCS Edge hardware kit TCS Edge hardware kit Axial Threaded Aluminum Pipe 6x106mm (2) #AX30441 Axial Threaded Aluminum Pipe 6x106mm (2) #AX30441 Axial Racing AX10 Scorpion Rear Steer Kit #AX30492 Axial Racing AX10 Scorpion Rear Steer Kit #AX30492 Hot Racing Aluminum Upper Link Mount AX10 Scorpion (black) #SCP0801 Hot Racing Aluminum Upper Link Mount AX10 Scorpion (black) #SCP0801 On Sale! $2 off - TCS Delrin Boomerang Upper Link Mount for Axial AX-10 Scorpion (1 each) US Patent Pending TCS Boomerang Upper Link Mount for Axial AX-10 Scorpion (1 each) On Sale! $20 off - Axial AX10 Scorpion #AX90001 Axial AX10 Scorpion $10 OFF! - Hitec HS-7955TG Robot Servo - Ultra High Torque Hitec HS-7955TG Robot Servo - Ultra High Torque Spektrum DX3R 3 Channel Radio Spektrum DX3R 3 Channel Radio Subtotal: $1261.05 |
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04-07-2009, 11:16 AM
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Rest of it motor 160 2 cobalt 7t pullers Holmes Hobby LLC charger 140 Hyperion EOS0606I AC/DC Charger Holmes Hobby LLC battery 2 2200mah 2S lipo Holmes hobby LLC 70.00 esc sidewinder 75.00 castle bec 21.00 466.00 Still like 300 over |
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04-07-2009, 11:17 AM
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| Rock Crawler Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Columbia, TN
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Personally based on what you have listed and the fact that you want rear steer here is what I would go with starting out. There's some of this stuff that I would cut out even, and there's some of the things that I don't list that you may want like the steel gears and aluminum transmission case, but for the most part especially starting out you don't really need those. Axial Racing Aluminum Knuckle Black (2 each) #30496 Axial Racing Aluminum Knuckle Black (2 each) #30496 $25.99 x = $51.98 Axial Racing AX10 Scorpion Color Pack Grey #AXA1432 Axial Racing AX10 Scorpion Color Pack Grey #AXA1432 $37.99 x = $37.99 Axial Racing Machined High Clearance Links Grey (2) #AX30469 Axial Racing Machined High Clearance Links Grey (2) #AX30469 $25.99 x = $51.98 Axial Racing Upper Link Plate for Axial AX10 Scorpion #AX30497 Axial Racing Upper Link Plate for Axial AX10 Scorpion #AX30497 $12.99 x = $25.98 On Sale! $20 off - Axial AX10 Scorpion #AX90001 Axial AX10 Scorpion $199.99 x = $199.99  ON SALE! 1/2 OFF - TCS Edge AX10 Scorpion Direct Bolt on Tube Frame (Black) (US Patent Pending) Now Semi Gloss! Our Patent Pending Hybrid TVP/Tuber design allows us to bring you a great direct bolt on tube frame for your AX10 Scorpion at a great price. $49.99 x = $49.99 TCS Edge Body Panel Kit TCS Edge Body Panel Kit $12.99 x = $12.99 TCS Edge hardware kit TCS Edge hardware kit $4.49 x = $4.49  TCS Crawlers Upgraded Skid Plate for Axial AX-10 Scorpion TCS Crawlers Upgraded Skid Plate for Axial AX-10 Scorpion $24.99 x = $24.99 On Sale! $4 off - TCS Black Anodized Aluminum Upper Link/Servo Mount for Axial AX-10 Scorpion (1 each) US Patent Pending TCS Black Anodized Aluminum Upper Link/Servo Mount for Axial AX-10 Scorpion (1 each) US Patent Pending $7.99 x = $7.99 Axial Racing Slipper Clutch #AX30414 Axial Racing Slipper Clutch #AX30414 $25.99 x = $25.99 Axial Racing AX10 Scorpion Rear Steer Kit #AX30492 Axial Racing AX10 Scorpion Rear Steer Kit #AX30492 $35.00 x = $35.00 Axial Racing 12mm Aluminum Hex Hub (black) (4pcs) #AX30429 Axial Racing 12mm Aluminum Hex Hub (black) (4pcs) #AX30429 $4.89 x = $4.89  RC4WD Punisher Shaft for AX10 Scorpion 111-145mm 4.37"-5.70" [X-0252] RC4WD Punisher Shaft for AX10 Scorpion 111-145mm 4.37"-5.70" [X-0252] $39.99 x = $79.98 Spektrum DX3R 3 Channel Radio Spektrum DX3R 3 Channel Radio $319.99 x = $319.99 $10 OFF! - Hitec HS-7955TG Robot Servo - Ultra High Torque Hitec HS-7955TG Robot Servo - Ultra High Torque $98.99 x = $197.98 Axial Racing Aluminum C Hub Carrier for AX10 Scorpion #AX30495 Axial Racing Aluminum C Hub Carrier for AX10 Scorpion #AX30495 $25.99 x = $51.98 Delete item  Then get the Sidewinder, BEC, charger, and batteries from Holmes, and have him set the BEC at 6.0v. Also I think he has the option of setting the Sidewinder up for you, or just get a Castle Link and set the BEC and ESC up yourself. The only other item I left off the list is the front servo mount, because with Lipo batteries you will want something like this to keep the 4link up front like the rear..... http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...ducts_id/31705 Some other things you'll want to look into will be tires like Panther Cougars or Losi Claws, because the stock tires aren't anywhere near as good as those two. You will also want weights in the tires, but the ones at TCS get expensive quick, when you can just pick some up at a tire store. Then you may also want to upgrade wheels, but either way all of this that I've listed will give you a great start, and should be in or close to your budget. |
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04-07-2009, 11:20 AM
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| RCC Addict Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Sebastopol CA
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You can get that DX3R for $260-$280 if you shop around. and remember, you don't have to buy everything at once, you can always upgrade things later as needed. |
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04-07-2009, 11:25 AM
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Yeah I got rid of the aluminum cases. So I can use the alum c hubs and knuckles with the stock axles right? What about the innerds of the axles. Anything needing beefing up in there? |
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04-07-2009, 11:40 AM
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| Rock Crawler Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Columbia, TN
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The HD lockers for the inside of the axles is a good buy, but I never completely stripped the stock ones. My stock gears have held up as well. That slipper is gonna save it all some, that's why I wouldn't worry about any tranny or axle gear upgrades until later on.
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04-07-2009, 12:27 PM
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| I wanna be Dave  Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tax Nation
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why are you getting 2 sets of knuckles and c's??? Get one set and a rear straight axle. Save yourself some money on the rear straight axle and go with plastic, aluminum for that part really isnt needed. My stock lockers and gears are 18m or so old and though they are showing a little wear its minimal (especially since I didnt lube them when first installed) Also dont understand 2 robot servo's? Are you building a 2.2 or a super? Save the money from the servo rear steer and extra knuckles and get Dig... you will be glad you did even if its for non comp use. Slipper has to be the #1 thing to remove from a crawler... never understood why they came up with that. Dont forget BTA  Edit: Now that I look at your list again... why buy the kit when you are replacing 3/4 of the parts? Just get axles, trans and some shocks. Last edited by jetboat; 04-07-2009 at 12:34 PM. |
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04-07-2009, 12:33 PM
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2 servos and 2 sets of knuckles and C's = 4 wheel steering. So I can run the transmission without a slipper. Keep in mind, I'm a noob and 3/4 of what you said I have no idea about. | |
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04-07-2009, 12:35 PM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: May 2007 Location: home
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It looks like you are getting new aluminum 3 link brackets and 4 link plates...i would eliminate the 3 link brackets...not necessary...Plus those drive shafts are not necessary....you can pick up some Stampede shafts for like $7. I have run those so hard and never broke, bent or damaged them at all. And the Aluminum gear case only adds extra weight up high. doesn't help with strength at all. Your gears will still break just the same..And those axial upper link plates can be made from a cheap $5 sheet of lexan with some scissors. Save tons of money.. Otherwise everything else looks pretty good....check out RCP spools/lockers...I loved the added weight it gave!! |
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04-07-2009, 12:41 PM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tax Nation
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Dig = disconnects rear drive shaft and locks rear axle so that you can turn sharp, decend steeper, climb steeper here is a vid to show how it can help with more than steering: http://www.hobbyzip.com/videos/787/c...1-%281%29.html Notice how I lock and unlock the rear wheels and remove power at times from the rear (freewheel) BTA = Behind the axle steering keeps you from hanging up on the linkages when approaching an obsticle. 4ws = not comp legal teaches bad habits for if you ever want to comp (also the setup from axial is a waste of money) slipper = removes the power when you need it, sucks to be trying to make a climb or being slightly bound and the slipper kicks in to "protect" your parts. I never have ran one and have yet to destroy an axial part and I drive hard |
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04-07-2009, 12:42 PM
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Are you gonna use this truck for comps? If you are, I'd ditch the rear steering. It's not comp legal, you won't need to spend that extra $100 on the servo, etc. If you're not, start with everything you need to build up the kit and get it running, then add all the upgrade's later. |
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