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Old 01-12-2018, 07:01 AM   #1
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Hi I been in the hobby for years but I'm new to crawlers. I have an Redcat Everest Gen7 Pro slightly ugraded and modded. I'm look for an upgrade in electronics. I recently purchased a flysky controller/receiver combo and that's when I became stuck. Need ideas on esc/motor. Brushless or brushed... sensored or sensor less. All knowledge welcome.


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Old 01-12-2018, 07:49 AM   #2
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If you want to go brushless but don't want to mess with sensorless, you could look at the TenShock motors. From what I've seen of them, they are very smooth on the low end. A few locals have started running them rather than sensored and are very happy with them.

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For crawling and getting your truck wet and muddy go with brushed. The HobbyWing WP 1080 and a cheap $12 35T motor would be good. You can upgrade to a more powerful Brood or Holmes brushed motor as well.

If you go brushless you have to get sensored or it's a waste for a crawling rig.
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For crawling and getting your truck wet and muddy go with brushed.

If you go brushless you have to get sensored or it's a waste for a crawling rig.
Not a waste with the TenShock.

You can get standard brushless wet just like with brushed. And, just like with brushed if you run it too much with mud or grime in it, it will burn up.

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For crawling and getting your truck wet and muddy go with brushed. The HobbyWing WP 1080 and a cheap $12 35T motor would be good. You can upgrade to a more powerful Brood or Holmes brushed motor as well.

If you go brushless you have to get sensored or it's a waste for a crawling rig.
I have seen that esc for around $35. Kind of cheap will it handle a 3s without eventually smoking out?

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Not a waste with the TenShock.

You can get standard brushless wet just like with brushed. And, just like with brushed if you run it too much with mud or grime in it, it will burn up.

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Will investigate Tenshock motors. I have heard of them but never seen them in action.

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Not a waste with the TenShock.

You can get standard brushless wet just like with brushed. And, just like with brushed if you run it too much with mud or grime in it, it will burn up.

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Sensorless is a waste on a rig that you want to crawl smoothly. You can't possibly argue with that.

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I have seen that esc for around $35. Kind of cheap will it handle a 3s without eventually smoking out?

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Yes! It's a great ESC.
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+1 on the WP1080 ESC and 35t motor

I recommend a GoolRC open-endbell motor from eBay.

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Sensorless is a waste on a rig that you want to crawl smoothly. You can't possibly argue with that.


Yes! It's a great ESC.
Thanks appreciate it. For the price it's worth a try.

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+1 on the WP1080 ESC and 35t motor

I recommend a GoolRC open-endbell motor from eBay.

Do it come with motor connectors


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Thanks appreciate it. For the price it's worth a try.

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You're welcome. I get mine at the link below. Good price and free shipping if you're in the US.

https://www.hobbywingdirect.com/prod...nt=26223842568

I don't think the GoolRC comes with leads and connectors. The RC4WD 35T will.
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I have seen that esc for around $35. Kind of cheap will it handle a 3s without eventually smoking out?

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Yes. It handles 3s perfectly.

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I bought 3 GoolRC 35T motors. They came with leads. Had to be soldered on. No biggy.

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Sensorless is a waste on a rig that you want to crawl smoothly. You can't possibly argue with that.
Clearly you haven't researched the TenShock motors and are arguing against them with no knowledge base.

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Clearly you haven't researched the TenShock motors and are arguing against them with no knowledge base.

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Castle Mamba Max Pro match the Tekin Roc motor wheel speed for days on 3s and it'll crawl butter smooth just have to waterproof your electronics

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Castle Mamba Max Pro match the Tekin Roc motor wheel speed for days on 3s and it'll crawl butter smooth just have to waterproof your electronics

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Isn't that combo sensored?

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Isn't that combo sensored?

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It is but if you're going to go brushless and you want butter smooth on the Rocks and wheel speed for days for hill climbs and mud trust me you want to go sensored you just have to waterproof it

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Isn't that combo sensored?

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Yes, which is what you want. The X is waterproof and so is the new HD ROC412.
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It is but if you're going to go brushless and you want butter smooth on the Rocks and wheel speed for days for hill climbs and mud trust me you want to go sensored you just have to waterproof it

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https://youtu.be/Wb4lMcJH4B0

Again, the TenShock 6-pole sensorless brushless is the exception to the rule.

Some of you guys need to open your eyes to other's suggestions instead of being so hard headed. You want to spend $130 for a sensored motor that will be ruined as soon as it gets moisture if you didn't get it sealed up good? Great. But that doesn't mean a the TenShock motors aren't a great option.

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https://youtu.be/Wb4lMcJH4B0

Again, the TenShock 6-pole sensorless brushless is the exception to the rule.

Some of you guys need to open your eyes to other's suggestions instead of being so hard headed. You want to spend $130 for a sensored motor that will be ruined as soon as it gets moisture if you didn't get it sealed up good? Great. But that doesn't mean a the TenShock motors aren't a great option.

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Nice video

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