20 degree axle C's

[rob_b]

Originally Posted by MX70

Why does everybody want to try them if they dont even know what difference it will make?

Originally Posted by Del Monte

improvement in steering response

On my berg I had clocked the axle tubes 20* then rolled the whole thing back 15* and the steering improved greatly.

[Del Monte]

The steering improvement when going downhill was expected, but what I've noticed with the 20 blocks is that the truck can "reach" out and grab vertical ledges a lot better too.

[JeremyH]

So you guys know, these now show to be in stock at Horizon....

[MX70]

Originally Posted by rob_b

On my berg I had clocked the axle tubes 20* then rolled the whole thing back 15* and the steering improved greatly.

Originally Posted by Del Monte

The steering improvement when going downhill was expected, but what I've noticed with the 20 blocks is that the truck can "reach" out and grab vertical ledges a lot better too.

thanks for clearing that up i saw a few previous posts that were unsure of how it would affect their crawler,

correct me if im wrong, are we rolling the axis foward or back?

del, " reaching out and grabbing " thats what i needed to hear, i have noticed that the losi dosent do that well, if this improves that, i am VERY interested. its a bummer i just sprung for the og alum c's.. guess ill have a backup set..

[tapped-out]

So why not just add a spacer on upper link to clock the axle??

[K_B]

Originally Posted by tapped-out

So why not just add a spacer on upper link to clock the axle??

It would change your suspension geometry. Depending on how big the spacer is, it's may or may not be noticeable.

[Toyo496]

Originally Posted by tapped-out

So why not just add a spacer on upper link to clock the axle??

It will also cause your driveshaft to be out of aligment, as well as mess with suspension geometry.

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by Del Monte

The steering improvement when going downhill was expected, but what I've noticed with the 20 blocks is that the truck can "reach" out and grab vertical ledges a lot better too.

after seeing Gunners pics in D_Loxs OTA thread thats exactly what I was thinking this would do.

Great job on bringing us the parts to show those MOA's that the Shafties dont go down easy.

[EeePee]

Originally Posted by Del Monte

is that the truck can "reach" out and grab vertical ledges a lot better too.

Which is great if, like me, you're running a stock link length shorter wheelbase truck.

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by EeePee

Which is great if, like me, you're running a stock link length shorter wheelbase truck.

but isnt longer better .............

[EeePee]

Originally Posted by Robbob

but isnt longer better .............

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Beat ya.

[Nabil]

Originally Posted by tapped-out

So why not just add a spacer on upper link to clock the axle??

how these are, you would need to shorten your upper link. that would make your pinion go into the ground

[losikid]

Ok so when we are looking at these on the axle. Whcih way is it 20 degrees. Ok so no clocking is this l so would we have 20 degrees this way or this way \ | /

[EeePee]

Top of the hub carrier is tilted towards the back. More caster.

[tapped-out]

Originally Posted by e-hills4x4

how these are, you would need to shorten your upper link. that would make your pinion go into the ground

Thanks............

[EeePee]

Here's a question. What's the stock caster angle?

[RcBro]

Wow there was alot of google copy and paste on the first page of this thread!

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by RcBro

Wow there was alot of google copy and paste on the first page of this thread!

Wikipedia too

[Tydl]

RcBro, will your new steering setup work with these c's?

[chevellian]

Originally Posted by EeePee

Here's a question. What's the stock caster angle?

I believe it is 10 degrees.