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Old 09-18-2010, 08:32 PM   #1
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Saw these at nationals, all of the team drivers were running them. The 20 degrees of positive caster is really supposed to help with steering out of a hole. I was told they will be available soon, can't wait to get mine!

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Old 09-18-2010, 08:35 PM   #2
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Even a close up of the knuckle weights too. Those look pretty sweet, hopefully my pocket can afford them when they come out. lol
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Old 09-23-2010, 07:32 AM   #3
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I also believe those are the lunsford Ti bolts in the link mounts.

Thought there would have been more interest in these...

Personally, I cant wait to try them out! Anybody want to share a release date?
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Old 09-23-2010, 11:29 AM   #4
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I'm interested.

Looks like Rich's rig with the orange anno.
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How have i missed these? Both the c hubs and weights look awsome
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Old 10-07-2010, 01:51 PM   #6
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here's the part number and link for these. http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...rodID=LOSA1039
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Caster has nothing to do with steering....you're thinking of rake.
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Old 10-07-2010, 02:26 PM   #8
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Nice... you beat me to it Rubba

These caster blocks make a big improvement in steering responce when climbing or decending.
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Caster has nothing to do with steering....you're thinking of rake.
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Rake is for motorcycles and bicycle steering stems, castor is for things with 4 wheels.

It would be nice to see those wheel weights offeres as a aftermarket product, but i wont hold my breath. They look pretty amazing, but some things you either gotta know somebody, or make yourself
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Nice... you beat me to it Rubba

These caster blocks make a big improvement in steering responce when climbing or decending.
Please coach us newbs
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Old 10-08-2010, 04:28 AM   #12
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If you change where the SHOCKS and LINKS attach to the axle, and or the frame, then you've changed the CASTER

If you change the ANGLE of INCLINATION of the steering knuckles, then you've changed the RAKE

It's not rocket science
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Nice... you beat me to it Rubba

These caster blocks make a big improvement in steering responce when climbing or decending.
I can understand the impovement when decending, but I fail to see how these can help with climbing. Can you please give more insight on this?

Either way, I cant wait to try them out. Thanks for the link Rubbaneck.
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If you change where the SHOCKS and LINKS attach to the axle, and or the frame, then you've changed the CASTER

If you change the ANGLE of INCLINATION of the steering knuckles, then you've changed the RAKE

It's not rocket science
Caster angle is the angle that a line drawn through the upper and lower ball joints (or king pins in this case) makes with respect to a line that is perpendicular to the ground. Call it "rake"....call it "caster".....

"Rake" is usually used when referring to bikes....."caster" when referring to cars.
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If you change where the SHOCKS and LINKS attach to the axle, and or the frame, then you've changed the CASTER

If you change the ANGLE of INCLINATION of the steering knuckles, then you've changed the RAKE

It's not rocket science
Listen Bobby Fischer, caster and rake are the same principal. Like others said...rake=motorcycles, caster=cars. Check out Millikan's book on suspension, it's got everything you need to know.

Nice job on the C's Losi.
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I think he is confusing pinion angle with caster. This is what happens when you watch too much American Chopper and not enough eXtreme 4x4.....
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Hahahahaha^^^^^^^
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This is the engineering definition of CASTER, not my own take on things:

"castor angle is the angular displacement from the vertical axis of the suspension of a steered wheel in a car, bicycle or other vehicle, measured in the longitudinal direction."

The term Rake is NOT exclusive to two wheeled vehicles. Wheel RAKE is an engineering term used when you're talking about streering axis inclination NOT the vertical axis potential of AXLE (aka CASTER).

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caster_angle

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(in a car - an imaginary line that runs through the center of the upper ball joint to the center of the lower ball joint)
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All I know is I got my LHS ordering these and cant wait to try them.
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Why does everybody want to try them if they dont even know what difference it will make?

Isn't this the same as swapping the original castor blocks around, ( or at least close?)

how much difference is there?

I AM GLAD to see LOSI making more aftermarket parts
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