Poll, Who wants HD underdrive/overdrive gears

[Charlie-III]

Originally Posted by rmdesignworks

See...I was right...remove one tooth from the ring and the rig gets under driven.....

Ill fix my post Charlie...you are right...thats what I get for working on several posts at the same time....sorry guys.

Calvin has an underdriven axle now (according to you).....not sure why he's complaining......

See his picture on this page.......

[Oh, no problem, just keeping you honest, and, correct.]

[kurtus]

Originally Posted by rmdesignworks

give me 20 minutes...im baking play-doh......

Ill order some AX gears and start workin on it...but I have to look at a locker design that Calvin sent me first.

Ahahahahaha CLEVER!!!! Thats about the extent of it though!!!

I actually have a spare ring and pinion from an ax10 I'll donate to this project, hit me up with a pm Thomas

[kurtus]

Originally Posted by Charlie-III

Calvin has an underdriven axle now (according to you).....not sure why he's complaining......

See his picture on this page.......

[Oh, no problem, just keeping you honest, and, correct.]

[Charlie-III]

Originally Posted by kurtus420

Ahahahahaha CLEVER!!!! Thats about the extent of it though!!!

I actually have a spare ring and pinion from an ax10 I'll donate to this project, hit me up with a pm Thomas

Calvin & I are looking locally as well.
1-We are curious.
2-His Venom ring gear is shot, so we need to do something.

[Chappy4o]

for the record i would definently be interested in od/ud gears . . . . do it venom!!!!!

[kurtus]

Got a reply from Jason this morning, nows the time to get your thinking caps on and make some suggestions that we can take back to Venom to improve the Creeper.

Here is the reply I got:

"Hello Kurt,
It is good to hear from you again! It looks like your poll is getting some good feedback and people are indeed interested in seeing the Creeper continue to progress. I have not heard any update on the request I made as of now.
We have a new director of this department and what I will do is forward your email on to him for this to be reviewed. I think he would be likely to give us a good idea of whether or not this is something we could potentially see come to fruition.

Hey by the way I would love to see some pictures of your Creeper to check out your setup if you wouldn't mind? Also if you have any other suggestions for updates we should make to this kit please let me know.



Thank you again for your support Kurt, it is much appreciated!


Jason Koneval
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Thanks Jason for your efforts

Kurt

[Rockfrog]

Well, either venom does it or if a conversion locker is made ... it's a great idea .... I like the AX-10 gear coversion idea although it may require spme shimming to work right. Not sure if the housings are compatible, the bearings look similar, and the gears are roughly the same size. Whether or not he pinion/ring gear positioning will be similar enough though (but a shim kit could solve that). I know I like the venom axles pinion bearing retention better than the axial ... Frankenbooger kept spitting the outer pinion bearing on me ... something my Creeper never did.

Sheesh, I'm so far behind nowadays ... time to get workin'!

[asw27x]

ok guys i got 2 sets of stock axial gears coming my way when ill get them ill get back to you on how they fit and if we can use them

and maybe venom could make a set of high steer knuckles and adjustable c hubs like the xr10

[Charlie-III]

Originally Posted by asw27x

OK guys, I have 2 sets of stock Axial gears coming my way when I get them, I'll get back to you on how they fit and if we can use them.
Maybe Venom could make a set of high steer knuckles and adjustable c hubs like the xr10

+1, not sure when they will show up, but I will check dimensions vs. stock Venom gears.
Specifically:
Pinion shaft OD
Pinion shaft length
Ring gear diameter
Ring gear thickness
Hardness of ring gear steel

I'm assuming I will need to do some work on the ring gear to get it to fit.

[asw27x]

Originally Posted by Charlie-III

+1, not sure when they will show up, but I will check dimensions vs. stock Venom gears.
Specifically:
Pinion shaft OD
Pinion shaft length
Ring gear diameter
Ring gear thickness
Hardness of ring gear steel

I'm assuming I will need to do some work on the ring gear to get it to fit.

u saying im incapable of doing the work?

[rmdesignworks]

Kurt is sending me a set of Ax gears and Im gonna run them through the paces and do a cad on them versus the Creeper gears to see the adapter/modified locker that would be necessary...

[asw27x]

i could as well

[Charlie-III]

Originally Posted by asw27x

You saying I'm incapable of doing the work?

No, it's just that the parts may arrive while you are not home.
I would also like to see what everything looks like.

[rmdesignworks]

Originally Posted by asw27x

i could as well

Do it man...we can always look at the ideas together.

[Charlie-III]

Originally Posted by rmdesignworks

Do it man...we can always look at the ideas together.

While I was working on the stock plastic diff housing and the JB welded spider gears, I got to thinking of a lump of plastic with the diff housing outer dimensions, but a pinned steel shaft through it's rotational axis with the drive ovals in it. Thus, it would be "one piece" for the locker/diff housing and allow a ring gear to be mounted to it with the bearings on each end to replace a lot of other parts.

I would use plastic for this to keep weight down, but the center steel insert would handle the loads from the axles.

Any thoughts Thomas??? (hope I didn't guess your next Creeper product).

[asw27x]

when i get the ring and pinion set ill start
iv gotten really good at google sketchup so ill use that this time

RMD i think you should get sketchup its free and very easy to use and thats really all i use now iv got a few things drawn on it

[rmdesignworks]

Originally Posted by asw27x

when i get the ring and pinion set ill start
iv gotten really good at google sketchup so ill use that this time

RMD i think you should get sketchup its free and very easy to use and thats really all i use now iv got a few things drawn on it

I already have 2 good cad programs that I use...just make sure to save at least one copy of your drawings as .dxf format or .dwg format so standard cad programs can import the drawings.

[asw27x]

Originally Posted by rmdesignworks

I already have 2 good cad programs that I use...just make sure to save at least one copy of your drawings as .dxf format or .dwg format so standard cad programs can import the drawings.

k ill try too

[Charlie-III]

Originally Posted by rmdesignworks

I already have 2 good cad programs that I use...just make sure to save at least one copy of your drawings as .dxf format or .dwg format so standard cad programs can import the drawings.

The free version of sketchup won't save in a "friendly" format.

[rmdesignworks]

Originally Posted by Charlie-III

The free version of sketchup won't save in a "friendly" format.

Sketch Up 8 right?

Sorry I missed the "PRO" button marker next to the Export types in the product info...Ok then save in .png then or .pdf but make sure there isnt a security code to the pdf.