:roll: Tell about it the next time you buy a battery and the plug is wired backwards from the factory.
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Not my problem???
- Thread starter jcboof
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:roll: Tell about it the next time you buy a battery and the plug is wired backwards from the factory.
jcboof
I wanna be Dave
They're labeled for positive and negative. You can see a + sign all the way to the left and a - sign above the solder tab on the right, where the 6.3 mm is.
I have about 20 pairs of REAL deans connectors and not a single one has a + or - sign on them.
Must be the cheapy ones that have that.
C*H*U*D
No idea what I'm doing
Speak to your own conscience. If you honestly know that you sent him something that was wired wrong, and he is being cool about it, then make things right.
Personally if it was me, I would chalk it up to my own learning experience and make things right...especially if he accepts some responsibility as well. Trying to play semantics won't help you sleep at night.
Personally if it was me, I would chalk it up to my own learning experience and make things right...especially if he accepts some responsibility as well. Trying to play semantics won't help you sleep at night.
fred0000
cherry bomb
I would tell the buyer what happened, that it was like that when you got it and everything, good thing you never ran those batterys in any of your other RC's.
IMO there is a right and a wrong way for a deans plug. i'd be pissed if I bought a new battery with it the wrong way (but for some reason was the sellers prefered method) dont take this last comment negitivly you reciever the car with the plug on wrong, that is not your fault, without looking hard its tough to spot.
IMO there is a right and a wrong way for a deans plug. i'd be pissed if I bought a new battery with it the wrong way (but for some reason was the sellers prefered method) dont take this last comment negitivly you reciever the car with the plug on wrong, that is not your fault, without looking hard its tough to spot.
Charlie-III
I wanna be Dave
I own a single "set" of Deans plugs....from an XR-10 I just bought.
1-Yes, there is a "+" on the same connection you show, but it's between the "+" & "-" on the solder side....not towards the outside edge as in your linked picture.
2-There is no "-" on the connector.
3-I had to look multiple times to actually see it (even with my "eyeball extenders" on).
OK, so I "could say" there is labeling (never bought new, so directions are out the frikkin window....:roll:;-)).....I agree with others, it's ~50/50.
A-NEVER assume
B-ALWAYS check before applying power (I work with ~550VDC several thousand amp UPS systems......smoked ESC's are tiny compared to the high powered 'arc welders' I deal with!!!!!) multiple times.....the one you miss will likely be your last FU.:shock::shock:
OK, so I learned something useful (especially NOT being a Deans user), I appreciate that. Thanks.
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fred0000
cherry bomb
I don't point the finger at either of them, I feel he should be told about what happened though, if anyone is at fault, I point the finger at the guy who sold the car to jcboof (or whoever put that connector on wrong)
Charlie-III
I wanna be Dave
"Fecal material occurs.....", everyone may feel bad, magic smoke was let loose, everyone (hopefully) learns something.
Sigh.......jcboof.....I feel you can argue either way, in my mind (what little there is of it....:lmao::lmao
you do what makes you feel OK....hopefully the buyer agrees with you."thumbsup""thumbsup"
Not always. Sometimes black is + and white is -.
jcboof
I wanna be Dave
I will do what I can to help the guy out if he will let me know what he wants me to do. Having him not respond to me is making it difficult.
We don't know for sure that it was wired wrong, all we know is that the product does not work and that is all that matters to me at this point. I would love to compensate him for the troubles but he is not responding to me at this point.
I'm not going to send him another speedo of he knowingly connected it wrong, but if a mistake was made because of something I did, I want to know about it.
We don't know for sure that it was wired wrong, all we know is that the product does not work and that is all that matters to me at this point. I would love to compensate him for the troubles but he is not responding to me at this point.
I'm not going to send him another speedo of he knowingly connected it wrong, but if a mistake was made because of something I did, I want to know about it.
ScaleFreak93
RCC Addict
That actually happened to my buddy Pat the other week. Luckily he noticed it and fixed it. I personally run traxxas connectors. Never had any issue with them "thumbsup" I've run deans as well but just settled on traxxas...not sure why. @jcboof as has been said let him do his thing if he is just going to ignore you. If he can answer honestly ok, if not, let it be.
JeremyH
I wanna be Dave
All of my real Deans are labeled...."thumbsup"
jcboof
I wanna be Dave
I can ship him the other GTB that I have, but who knows what is going to happen to that one.... He could say thank you or he could say that the new one blew up too.
I just want to make sure I do the right thing so we can both walk away satisfied that every attempt to make everything right has been done.
I would like for him to make the terms of making things right. If he wants a brand new speedo, I cant afford to give him 120 bucks to buy a new one, but that would also be quite an unreasonable request. A reasonable request would be for a reasonable refund amount of the cost of a used speedo, or a 50% refund of the cost of a used speedo since we all are agreeing on a 50/50 liability.
I asked him twice to check polarity on the connectors and he assured me that it was fine. I don't know what else I can say to this matter. He must have changed the connector upon receiving the truck. This is not my concern anymore. The reason why the Speedo does not work is my only concern. Did he blow it up?? Did I send him a speedo that was on its last leg?? Did some act of god happen and things just went bad?? Don't know. That is what I'm trying to find out.
Dammit, you got me! I just looked at one of mine and it was hard to see but yes, it is labeled. But after looking at a couple more pairs, some are not. Maybe they labeled certain batches or something or maybe my unsteady hands and fat soldering iron melted all the labeling away! LOL!!
I just want to make sure I do the right thing so we can both walk away satisfied that every attempt to make everything right has been done.
I would like for him to make the terms of making things right. If he wants a brand new speedo, I cant afford to give him 120 bucks to buy a new one, but that would also be quite an unreasonable request. A reasonable request would be for a reasonable refund amount of the cost of a used speedo, or a 50% refund of the cost of a used speedo since we all are agreeing on a 50/50 liability.
I asked him twice to check polarity on the connectors and he assured me that it was fine. I don't know what else I can say to this matter. He must have changed the connector upon receiving the truck. This is not my concern anymore. The reason why the Speedo does not work is my only concern. Did he blow it up?? Did I send him a speedo that was on its last leg?? Did some act of god happen and things just went bad?? Don't know. That is what I'm trying to find out.
Dammit, you got me! I just looked at one of mine and it was hard to see but yes, it is labeled. But after looking at a couple more pairs, some are not. Maybe they labeled certain batches or something or maybe my unsteady hands and fat soldering iron melted all the labeling away! LOL!!
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Charlie-III
I wanna be Dave
At times, yes. But.....I didn't mention a white wire, thus I used red & black & their polarities........8);-)
jcboof
I wanna be Dave
Just sent him another message asking for a photo of the speedo. I also let him know that I was willing to make this right for him but I need to know what he would like to do.
I did a little searching and found a post on RCTECH that he just made a few minutes ago about taking the car out on the track for the first time today and he was very happy with it from what it looked like. He never mentioned anything about his misfortune or anything so I don't know anything more than what he had typed in that post.
I did a little searching and found a post on RCTECH that he just made a few minutes ago about taking the car out on the track for the first time today and he was very happy with it from what it looked like. He never mentioned anything about his misfortune or anything so I don't know anything more than what he had typed in that post.
C*H*U*D
No idea what I'm doing
That's all you can do. If he chooses to lose contact with you, then so be it.
ridepate
Quarry Creeper
I've got one or 6 Deans.........Hope nothing mAGIC-sMOKES while I'm asleep.............
well all of my "real" deans plugs are all labeled and the only time i have seen the black + and white - is in a house A/C power...everything i have every worked on that was DC has always been red+ black -....not sayin its always like that but everything i have ever seen DC has been black - red +....
I've seen red+/black-, red+/white-, black+/white-, purple+/green-, and on a few occasions, white+/black-.
jcboof
I wanna be Dave
He finally responded to my last pm. I had let him know I was willing to help him out and this is what he responded.
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I do not think you will be able to tell anything with a picture because you are using black leads for all connections. You switched them to the wet noodle brand. When I connected the the battery to the ESC the second time it got so hot it ripped the deans plug right off the esc. I have never seen anything like that. I resolder the deans plug to the esc. Its in a box.
Not quite sure what to make of that. Did he rewrite it before or after the meltdown?? Definitely sounds like a dead short to me but he won't answer about if the polarity was correct. Motor wires will not cause this issue, but I'd he required the battery wires from the board, he could have easily soldered both positive and negative terminals together of he wasn't careful.
At this point I still can't get a straight answer from him and he won't tell me if he wants me to help him out. I've offered and he's not accepting from what I can tell.
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I do not think you will be able to tell anything with a picture because you are using black leads for all connections. You switched them to the wet noodle brand. When I connected the the battery to the ESC the second time it got so hot it ripped the deans plug right off the esc. I have never seen anything like that. I resolder the deans plug to the esc. Its in a box.
Not quite sure what to make of that. Did he rewrite it before or after the meltdown?? Definitely sounds like a dead short to me but he won't answer about if the polarity was correct. Motor wires will not cause this issue, but I'd he required the battery wires from the board, he could have easily soldered both positive and negative terminals together of he wasn't careful.
At this point I still can't get a straight answer from him and he won't tell me if he wants me to help him out. I've offered and he's not accepting from what I can tell.
Then you're done. Leave it be and get on with your life.
