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[Code454]

its not that it is a pos or anything, most rc stuff wasnt meant to be beat and hopped up all crazy, nothing was built tough as nails, if u think its so bad than you make a product and we will test it and then see what people say

 

[outofreach]

its not that it is a pos or anything, most rc stuff wasnt meant to be beat and hopped up all crazy, nothing was built tough as nails, if u think its so bad than you make a product and we will test it and then see what people say

Are you talking to me?

Did you read and comprehend anything I said? It is a reasonable expectaion I believe that a rig should last more than 1 battery pack with normal use.

 

[Code454]

If someone sells crap they deserve to get a bunch of grief.

looks like i read it just fine.

maybe you had a problem and it didnt last 1 pack but most rigs can handle more than that thats for sure.

 

[The Violator]

Now I am a total dick to the RTR guys...... I remember I was at a comp, and a guy who was a frequent spectator came up to me and asked what the gate sizes were for the super class. Now I remember he had just bought a summit. So I saw where this was going and before I even answered his question, I asked if he was thinking on compin' his summit. He said yeah. I told him that he would be wasting his time and that it would fail horribly. He replies with "Why? I can climb over 3 sets of rail road tracks in a row no problem. Like they're not even there" Then I proceeded to explain why in my(for you that know me personally) normal asshole way of explaining things. This is the best example I personally have had of someone that irritated me in this hobby.......Mechanically retarded people bother me because from personal experience, the generally tend to be complete morons in the first place...

This post should win an award for Douche of the Year. Why would you discourage a frequent spectator from participating. Way to help out the hobby. I hope that everyone who reads this understands this is the kind of customer service they can expect from cheapbatterypacks.com. If they are new to the hobby they should avoid your company. I think your the best thing to happen to Maxamps ever.

 

[outofreach]

looks like i read it just fine.

maybe you had a problem and it didnt last 1 pack but most rigs can handle more than that thats for sure.

Buy an X-crawler

 

[outofreach]

This post should win an award for Douche of the Year. I hope that everyone who reads this understands this is the kind of customer service they can expect from cheapbatterypacks.com. If they are new to the hobby they should avoid your company. I think your the best thing to happen to Maxamps ever.

Finally someone that makes sense.

 

[toyofast]

This post should win an award for Douche of the Year. Why would you discourage a frequent spectator from participating. Way to help out the hobby. I hope that everyone who reads this understands this is the kind of customer service they can expect from cheapbatterypacks.com. If they are new to the hobby they should avoid your company. I think your the best thing to happen to Maxamps ever.

Finally someone that makes sense.

I know Chris comes off as an ass or "tough guy" but really he is the loveable type. I don't want sound like I'm standing up for him but really.. he's more talk than anything. If you have a battery question, ask him. He'll tell you straight up how it is or what you should run, without the BS crap. He'll tell you like it is. If you can't handle the truth, you should live in a cave in the middle of BFE and never come back.



BTW, this thread is full of cry babies. Only ones really complaining about things are the folks who have only been on the scene for the last 3-6 months.

 

[The Violator]

Finally someone that makes sense.

Warped minds think alike"thumbsup"

It seems the new Losi Comp Crawler has really stirred up some emotion. The oldies think that there is nothing wrong with it just because it broke within 5 minutes. The newbies think they should be able to drive it off a cliff and not even bend a stub. The reality lays somewhere in the middle.

My truggy (Losi 8t) has taken more punishment than most 3 people can dish out and it keeps on running strong. On that note I would have expected more from Losi. The fact that are trying to make it right is great, but I can understand peoples frustration with having a new toy ( because in the end thats all these are ) thats broken.

To attack the RTR guys just because they bought RTR is downright dumb. This hobby is growing, and RC in general is growing due to the RTR crowd. Most people will never get to the level of some of the OG crawler guys on this board. Not everyone wants to build a custom chassis, cut and file links or brackets. Time, and mechanical ability stop most people. But if they can pay instead of do the work themselves more power to them. There is a plan for everyone. Judge Smails said it best.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dbLfD5Vjq4

 

[Robbob]

It seems the new Losi Comp Crawler has really stirred up some emotion. The oldies think that there is nothing wrong with it just because it broke within 5 minutes. The newbies think they should be able to drive it off a cliff and not even bend a stub. The reality lays somewhere in the middle.

I wonder if it would have done the same thing if it was under a different companies name ...... seems according to some crowds its ok for another brand to break parts at launch but not Losi.


atleast this rig came with a dig out of the box and had spare parts ready to ship when customers broke something :roll:

itll all blow over once more people start posting their fancy pictures so others can just copy what they do and think their rig is the $4it. :?

 

[FrankyRizzo]

Well put.

 

[rnpnick]

I don't feel that complaining is what will get us better trucks, if the design isn't good and the parts aren't weak then people will buy something else, then the next company will make a better one, and so on. That's what will keep the companies in check. No one will be force fed a pos truck, good old capitalism will weed out the turds will a lot less drama.

If no one complained.. How would anyone know the design was weak, the parts were breaking. The over all design was trash. If people just buy things find out they suck and just accept it, nothing will ever get better.

Oh and about Losi, the reason people are pissed is becuase they claim its comp ready from the box. Yet it couldnt complete a comp because it broke an axle. This was not 1 or 2 trucks, im pretty sure 90% of them broke an axle.

Not only that, but LOSI knew about it before release. They had the same issue in proto stage. I can remember Rich on RCCTV saying how they didnt want to release the truck to early and send everyone trash. But thats exactly what they did. Because of that no one will touch the losi in my area, and there was big buzz about the truck pre release.

For the record Im OG as they come, Ive been playing with crawlers since before rcc.com back in the early days with the clodbuster and clodzilla, sassy chasis and the like. I had an original rc10 mechanical speedos and batteries that last maybe 4 minutes.

So when I look back I say omg screw those times you other OG eletists can have them back. I like the days now where I just plop in a brushless motor and lipos and go race. I like building my kits without having to fab my own parts or chop a chassis down. I like not having to build my battery packs.

Thank god for the RTR crowd, with out them this hobby would have failed by now. They are the main source of income for most hobby shops.

And my last point. These are TOY F ing CARS we have to have bitch threads about bitch threads, we have people who think they are cool becuase they can play with toys real good. F the search button as well, that thing is as useless as tits on a lesbian.

 

[shierkahn]

Finally got to the end... I told myself I wasn't gonna read it all but it happened anyway.

Kami: Nobody here could have said it better."thumbsup"

Harley: you know more peeps put you on there ignore list"thumbsup"

Thanks to all the Veders, OGs, and Newbs8)

I myself am still a "Noob"... I know this and am OK with it"thumbsup"
I don't have a big post count...and there's a reason for that.
I have been on many forums of many subjects and knew long ago about the search button...Hence I try not to post repeat ??'s but, to find it myself.

I am having a hard time figuring out why people have any probs with Kami's OP. I love everything about this "addiction".

My 2 rigs I got are both RTR (both WK's) but, one hasn't been for a long time, the other will probably stay that way for the most part. I enjoy building my parts:mrgreen::mrgreen: And am not afraid to contact some of you for help or to get some Templates...even though I change them to fit my needs (THANKS...you guys know who you are:wink

When everone else was waiting for the AX10 I went with the WK... and I'm glad I did. Because I like the challenge and the fab time to get it going.

Don't know how on topic this reply was ...There's alot in this thread and some things I didn't want to touch (for obviouse reasons)
Hope it made sense

 

[Chris_The_Battery_Man]

This post should win an award for Douche of the Year. Why would you discourage a frequent spectator from participating. Way to help out the hobby. I hope that everyone who reads this understands this is the kind of customer service they can expect from cheapbatterypacks.com. If they are new to the hobby they should avoid your company. I think your the best thing to happen to Maxamps ever.

Ok, let me get a few things straight. A: I will be the first to admit that I am a Douche. Generally I am over blunt with what I think. B: This post has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with my job or cheapbatterypacks.com. A huge part of this board buys from us and knows what our customer service is like. Alot of the time I am on here on my free time and just goofing off. So if you have an issue with my post, then confront the dick(That being me) that you have the problem with. Plus, this thread has nothing to do with batteries or vendors alike. Just a bunch of guys sitting behind their monitors with a beer and bantering back and forth about "The good ol' days". So get over it.


I will never discourage someone from coming into this part of the hobby at all. I like having more competition and just helping it grow. However, as I have said twice in this thread, I dont like people that can't think for themselves. We can all agree with that. I comp about 10 times a month here and because locally, alot of people know me, I get asked ALOT of questions. Usually I dont mind answering them if they're willing to listen or learn. But when you get that one guy every so often that asks your advise then argues with you, who doesn't know what he is talking about, then thats when it get's annoying. It's about as bad as someone your helping at work, telling you how to do your job.


And lastly, I will also be the first to admit, that I am not the most gracefull with my words. So if I have offended anyone, Im sorry, It's wasn't meant to be offensive, just blowing off a little steam on alike complaints with some of the other guys here.

 

[hawnmt]

Kamikaze, I agree overall with what you saying about guys not appreciating how far this hobby has come but I kinda disagree with the whinning and complaining part.

I haven't been around long enough to have see the begining years of RC crawling. But i have seen the transition from tlts to wheely kings to axial to bergs in 2.2 and the thinning of super and the birth of 1.9. So i can appreciate how far this hobby has advanced in the last few years.

But I think the part about guys complaining about stuff is:

a) nature of the beast: someone spends money on something, something breaks then someone complains whether or not it was their fault or manufacturers.

b) what keeps manufacturers on their toes. They may not like it but a least with feedback they have a chance to fix it. If it scares off people then that's sad but really it's capitalism at work. Only the strong survive, mentally and financially, so as long as there's money to be made someone will probably step up.

I love companies like RC4WD who really push the hobby by making stuff no one else will. BUT I also think they need to be held to the fire when they make a bad or faulty product. I don't want them to stop making stuff but without slamming them when they make or about to make bad stuff then how will they learn what to really make? I just wish everyone was more honest when guys are pimping stuff or during testing. Seems like a lot of the time if your in the "in" crowd no one wants to say a bad word about you but if your not it easily turns into a flame fest, sometimes without due cause.

But all this is just growing pains for the hobby. I remember back in the mid '80s no one could make a monster truck that could stay together. There were absolute craptastic efforts like the Varicon Big Grizzly(owned one) and the better but still short MRP High Roller. Or if you had the big bucks you could get a kinda monster Bruiser. But it wasn't until the Clodbuster that there was a "real" monster and that's in bone stock condition. Trying telling the under 25, 50+mph Revo crowd to show appreciation to the Clod and I'd bet a lot of them would just laugh in your face.

Time marches on......

 

[Nate08]

This post should win an award for Douche of the Year. Why would you discourage a frequent spectator from participating. Way to help out the hobby. I hope that everyone who reads this understands this is the kind of customer service they can expect from cheapbatterypacks.com. If they are new to the hobby they should avoid your company. I think your the best thing to happen to Maxamps ever.

So you're saying that you would advise someone to try to comp a rig that you knew full well had no business anywhere near a crawling competition?

Who's the one really hurting the hobby at that point, Chris, who would give an honest and accurate opinion, which could lead him to buying or building an actual crawler or you who would tell the guy to proceed, and run a truck that couldnt cut it thereby frustrating him possibly to the point that he never looked at crawling or crawlers again?

I've dealt with Chris, and Cheap Battery packs a few times over the years and have never gotten anything but good honest advice. The advice may not have been sugar coated, but I can handle that. Personally I'd rather be told flat out that an idea won't work than waste my time and anyone who tried to help me's time by heading in a bad direction.

 

[Kamikaze]

There is a difference in constructive critasizm and bitching. If there is a faulty part, people should know about it. The bitching comes in when people know there is a faulty part, and everyone that breaks one feels the need to write a 2 paragraph rant about it. This isn't about the losi, its about everything. The losi for example, who doesn't know that the cvd's where breaking? Go look in the forum for yourself, every third post is about someone breaking a cvd. What does that accomplish?

 

[hawnmt]

There is a difference in constructive critasizm and bitching. If there is a faulty part, people should know about it. The bitching comes in when people know there is a faulty part, and everyone that breaks one feels the need to write a 2 paragraph rant about it. This isn't about the losi, its about everything. The losi for example, who doesn't know that the cvd's where breaking? Go look in the forum for yourself, every third post is about someone breaking a cvd. What does that accomplish?

While I agee it can get out of hand, it's hard to draw a definitive line when it's gone too far. So I'd rather see a bunch of repetitive posts about it than to see posts being censored.

I think what it did accomplish is it got Losi's attention. It were just a few posts and Rich was handling it I'm not sure it would have gotten the attention it deserves. Not to take anyting away from Rich because lord knows all the crap he has had to go through because of this and I can appreciate the fact that he's stood there and answered them all. But obviously Rich isn't the only man there at Losi but with all those bitching comments I doubt there isn't anyone at Losi who doesn't now know about the problem.

 

[The Violator]

So you're saying that you would advise someone to try to comp a rig that you knew full well had no business anywhere near a crawling competition?

Who's the one really hurting the hobby at that point, Chris, who would give an honest and accurate opinion, which could lead him to buying or building an actual crawler or you who would tell the guy to proceed, and run a truck that couldnt cut it thereby frustrating him possibly to the point that he never looked at crawling or crawlers again?

I've dealt with Chris, and Cheap Battery packs a few times over the years and have never gotten anything but good honest advice. The advice may not have been sugar coated, but I can handle that. Personally I'd rather be told flat out that an idea won't work than waste my time and anyone who tried to help me's time by heading in a bad direction.

Why would you dismiss anyone who wants to try to crawl. Its not like the guy had his 1/8 scale nitro truggy and wanted to hit up the rock. If he frequently attends comps he will see what works and what does not. But why shouldn't he try with his summit. How does it affect anyone else besides the guy who drives, and maybe the judges. But at the comps I go to everyone is welcome. There was even a guy who built a crawler from an 1/8th scale truggy. The build was on this forum, and he hit the rocks and had fun. THEY ARE TOYS.

 

[outofreach]

So if you have an issue with my post, then confront the dick(That being me)

If I buy Packs from a company you work for ( and I have ) and a employee is a dick ( or atleast plays one on the internet ), my business will forever go elsewhere. Like it or not you represent the company you work for. What is it with RC and arogance, on the web and the 15 year old kids in the hobby shops - I don't get it. Its crazy, in the real world businesses actually appreciate their customers. I guess this is what you get when you only spend $50 a pop.

 

[hbj069]

Pms

whew, too much PMS in here.:mrgreen: