blackfoot
Quarry Creeper
And mine were fighting to keep him out. Now look what happened to us. We are needed to sell you cheap, tax free gas, smokes and take all your damn money in our Casino's. :lol:
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Religulous ~
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Mr.Slave
Quarry Creeper
You forgot the USA, Invaded by countless nations, its natives slaughtered, butchered, mass murdered, pilaged, raped, enslaved and shoved onto small communities after having their lands stollen from them. All in the name of , you guessed it,Christianity
assimilation is awesome!
Rudukai13
Quarry Creeper
If anyone questions whether or not religion starts wars, just take a look at Ireland. Now I don't claim to know one way or another if there is a God, and I have no problem with people who do believe in their own personal God-as far as I'm concerned, whatever gets you through the day. I choose to believe in things that I can experience, and so far nothing has pointed me towards any orginized religion. Now, if someone can provide solid proof of some sort of God, I will gladly change my beliefs. Until then, I will remain on the "I don't know" side of the fence. Now, I do have problems with organized religions who claim to know something I don't. Again, not a problem with the individuals-a problem with the orginization that claims to know something that others don't, without any solid proof of what they claim to know. I don't want to start any fights, and I most certainly am not going to tell anyone that what they personally believe is wrong, I am simply stating my personal beliefs as others have done in this thread.
Rudukai13
Quarry Creeper
Please, do us all a favor. Shut up.
MOCRAWLER
I wanna be Dave
Now I see what your problem is.
The Casino's have really flourished too. Atleast in my part of the country. I truly believe what happened to the indians in this country was a shame.
The Casino's have really flourished too. Atleast in my part of the country. I truly believe what happened to the indians in this country was a shame.
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Mr.Slave
Quarry Creeper
MOCRAWLER
I wanna be Dave
Remember Mr. Slave is only here to entertain us.
ThinkTank
Release your anger..
If you want to be taken seriously in a serious discussion, QUIT ACTING LIKE AN IDIOT.
Otherwise.......
If you are trying to joke around, use smilies.
We can't tell the difference when your trying to be funny and when you are acting stupid.
ThinkTank
Release your anger..
Back on topic..
I believe in God. I could never grasp the idea that the entire universe came into existence by an accidental explosion, or the idea that humans evolved from fishes and apes.
For a scientific explanation, it makes no sense IMHO.
The majority of problems caused by religion is because of humans are who in control of it.
I believe in God. I could never grasp the idea that the entire universe came into existence by an accidental explosion, or the idea that humans evolved from fishes and apes.
For a scientific explanation, it makes no sense IMHO.
The majority of problems caused by religion is because of humans are who in control of it.
dezfan
I wanna be Dave
I beleive in God.
Mr.Slave
Quarry Creeper
I didn't think anyone would possibly have taken that comment seriously.
Payback's a bitch, eh?
Contrary to popular belief, you can find and/or have God without religion. Here's an analogy:
Imagine you want to travel to a city that you have never been to before, but heard alot about. Leading towards that city are many, many roads. Each road begins at a toll booth. To pass that booth and travel on that particular road you must agree to certain terms and conditions.
Those terms and conditions may include:
1. You will obey the rules of the road.
2. You will not deviate or take your eyes from the road.
3. You will not converse with those that are not on the road.
4. You will not harm only those that travel with you.
5. You will work during your travel to promote, maintain, and widen the road.
6. If you will not or can not obey the rules, you will be cast off into the median and can no longer use this particular road to reach your destination.
7. Should you chose to travel a different road, you will be cast into the median at which point you must return to the toll booth of another road of your choosing and begin again.
Each road boasts and advertises its own advantages, and will dilligently discredit the others.
The medians are not clearly marked, and are not maintained. There are no toll booths or rules on the medians.
You have three choices. Travel on a preset road, travel on the median, stay where you are.
To travel on a prebuilt road, you adopt all of their preconcieved methods and rules of travel. This appears to be the most efficient way to reach your destination.
To travel on the median means that you will find your own way to the city, and will be looked down upon by those dedicated travelers on the road. This appears to be a more difficult method, with no guides or support.
To stay where you are means that you will still be rediculed by those that travel the roads, and you will not reach the city. If it even exists.
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So, knowing this, a person would logicly come to the conclusion that there is in fact a city at the end of the roads, otherwise they wouldn't be there. Maybe that city is as good as you've heard, maybe its not. It is up to you to take the journey as you see fit, or not take it at all.
Your means of travel does not dictate whether or not there is in fact a city to travel to.
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Do you believe in God because you were taught to or because it was a conclusion you came to yourself?
So its easier for you to wrap your head around a singular all powerful being doing all the work? Can you really imagine such power and control?
Who says we can't have both ideals? Lets say that there was a Big Bang, maybe that is the way God did it. Evolution from a fish? For sure its quite a blow to the ego, but maybe its how it did happen. It doesn't mean that a Creator didn't plan it that way.
Science is no less believable than what we are told is "the word of God". At least science is working to expand its knowledge, while traditional religious beliefs are still running on many thousands of years of speculation and "divine inspiration".
Mr.Slave
Quarry Creeper
Benzbuildr
RCC Addict
Do you believe in God because you were taught to or because it was a conclusion you came to yourself?
I believe in God by my choice
Do you not believe by yours?
So its easier for you to wrap your head around a singular all powerful being doing all the work? Can you really imagine such power and control?
Who says we can't have both ideals? Lets say that there was a Big Bang, maybe that is the way God did it. Evolution from a fish? For sure its quite a blow to the ego, but maybe its how it did happen. It doesn't mean that a Creator didn't plan it that way.
It says we were made in his image. not a fish or a monkey "thumbsup"
joesbruiser
I wanna be Dave
dezfan
I wanna be Dave
I believe in God, I feel no obligation to justify my faith.
If you want to believe in a little fat man, a rubber chicken or that your ancestors were a monkeys, that's cool. I support your right to believe or not believe as you choose.
If you want to believe in a little fat man, a rubber chicken or that your ancestors were a monkeys, that's cool. I support your right to believe or not believe as you choose.
blackfoot
Quarry Creeper
I dont believe in your God or Jesus Christ, thats my choise and telling someone who doesnt that they should go die is totally ****ed up. I hope you are right and your God passes judgment on you for being a total cock.
Now....
If there is a High and mighty God, that created everything. Then why is it that we are a speck of sand in that vast darkness. It says in the bible that he created the earth, but does not mention the creation of anything else in all that darkness. What would be the purpose of creating a speck, that is the earth and not creating anything else or mentioning the creation of anything else? Thats alot like taking a 200 page notebook and writing one word in it on the first page and throwing it away coz you think its used up. There are alot of things to explain and everyday something new that has never been explained is being discovered because of science.
So, God created the world in 7 days, on the 6th day he created man, the 7th he rested. But Dinosaurs have been proven to walk the earth billions of years ago, where man, only 100's of thousands of years ago. The bible does not talk about dinosaurs or the creation of them, so did they ever exist? According to the written word in the bible, no. If man and dinosaur were both created in a 6 day stretch and both proven to exist billions of years apart in time, God had one hell of a work week and time never existed to him in the way it does to us. Curious.......
The bible is man written, stories carried on from person to person, generation to generation. Dinosaurs were never mentioned because 2000 years ago, the bones were never discovered, so why mention something that was never known to exist. We all know how stories go, just like rumors, they get stretched and added to as time goes on to make them more interesting to listen to. So you get the far fetched stories in the bible were created. i.e. Noahs Ark, yeah, thats a good fairy tale there. Man wrote the book, man created the stories. There might and I say MIGHT very lightly, be some small amount of truth to each of the stories.
I believe strongly in science and the scientific approach to things. Ive never seen the boogy man, but none of you have ever seen God or Jesus either, so Boogity Woogity must exist somewhere.
Now....
If there is a High and mighty God, that created everything. Then why is it that we are a speck of sand in that vast darkness. It says in the bible that he created the earth, but does not mention the creation of anything else in all that darkness. What would be the purpose of creating a speck, that is the earth and not creating anything else or mentioning the creation of anything else? Thats alot like taking a 200 page notebook and writing one word in it on the first page and throwing it away coz you think its used up. There are alot of things to explain and everyday something new that has never been explained is being discovered because of science.
So, God created the world in 7 days, on the 6th day he created man, the 7th he rested. But Dinosaurs have been proven to walk the earth billions of years ago, where man, only 100's of thousands of years ago. The bible does not talk about dinosaurs or the creation of them, so did they ever exist? According to the written word in the bible, no. If man and dinosaur were both created in a 6 day stretch and both proven to exist billions of years apart in time, God had one hell of a work week and time never existed to him in the way it does to us. Curious.......
The bible is man written, stories carried on from person to person, generation to generation. Dinosaurs were never mentioned because 2000 years ago, the bones were never discovered, so why mention something that was never known to exist. We all know how stories go, just like rumors, they get stretched and added to as time goes on to make them more interesting to listen to. So you get the far fetched stories in the bible were created. i.e. Noahs Ark, yeah, thats a good fairy tale there. Man wrote the book, man created the stories. There might and I say MIGHT very lightly, be some small amount of truth to each of the stories.
I believe strongly in science and the scientific approach to things. Ive never seen the boogy man, but none of you have ever seen God or Jesus either, so Boogity Woogity must exist somewhere.
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chrisjlittle
RCC Addict
Do you believe "religious wars" are the result of religion because you were taught that, or is it a conclusion you came to via independent research? Seriously, do you think Slobodan Milosevic gave a shit about religion? He was a fawking terrorist! A greedy, power mad psycho who claimed religious context because it gained the favor of the people, and he slaughtered muslims because it was an easy way to scare people into not questioning him. Just like 90 percent of the other leaders in the cases of religious wars. Yes, there are some true believers. I get the impression that Ahmadinejad is a true believer, and that's why he scares me. But I'm 100% confident the true believers are in the minority.
Lastly, what the people of a country engaged in this kind of thing think is irrelevant. They rarely have a say.
Thank you. I said bill mahr was a blowhard because he's just using this hot button topic to get famous and rich. Apparently he's too self absorbed to realize it's an individual choice thing. Which makes him a Giant douche.
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