What the F*** Is Wrong With People?

[Greatscott]

This happened a few miles from my house yesterday...

Sniper suspect identified in Idaho firefighter ambush: Live updates

Authorities are trying to determine why a sniper ignited a blaze then ambushed and fatally shot and killed two responding firefighters.

www.usatoday.com

WTF... Do you just wake up one morning with crazy turned all the way up to 11?

 

[Timmahh]

Way too many gullible people that will believe whatever they hear becuz the Boobtube said it. Or some other set of flappin lips with all manner of conflicts of interest, but they keep on going even though reality is there, far to many refuse to take off their blinders and look.

I lost a LOT of faith during the RONA. SO MANY I thought would stand up to the crap that was going on just quit flappin their lips and sat down and let it happen. I was rather disgusted to see here in America.

Particularly within my own Elder Gen X Generation. We were in Elementary during NAM, We KNEW and were taught what propaganda was and yes, were we're also propagandized in many respects, and it followed many of us through HS. That said, I watched the change in public education follow me right through school just a few grades down from me, the subtle changes being put in place.

We need to be more vocal and proactive in pointing out the Propaganda, because insanity like you posted isn't going to stop anytime soon. Millions have the Mind Virus of Socialism (aka Communism) and with Radical Socialists, Violence is all they are taught to know 2nd only to Hatred of those that don't think like they do.

And they can't think so... We get fucked up shit like this happening.

The only other thing that popped into my head is woman problems, that being someones wife is sleeping with someone elses firefighter.... Which, as sad as it is to say, would be preferable to the former option in times like this.

 

[Deerhurst]

Way too many gullible people that will believe whatever they hear becuz the Boobtube said it. Or some other set of flappin lips with all manner of conflicts of interest, but they keep on going even though reality is there, far to many refuse to take off their blinders and look.

I lost a LOT of faith during the RONA. SO MANY I thought would stand up to the crap that was going on just quit flappin their lips and sat down and let it happen. I was rather disgusted to see here in America.

Particularly within my own Elder Gen X Generation. We were in Elementary during NAM, We KNEW and were taught what propaganda was and yes, were we're also propagandized in many respects, and it followed many of us through HS. That said, I watched the change in public education follow me right through school just a few grades down from me, the subtle changes being put in place.

We need to be more vocal and proactive in pointing out the Propaganda, because insanity like you posted isn't going to stop anytime soon. Millions have the Mind Virus of Socialism (aka Communism) and with Radical Socialists, Violence is all they are taught to know 2nd only to Hatred of those that don't think like they do.

And they can't think so... We get fucked up shit like this happening.

The only other thing that popped into my head is woman problems, that being someones wife is sleeping with someone elses firefighter.... Which, as sad as it is to say, would be preferable to the former option in times like this.

The level of the blinders impresses me. The past few years showed me how many people will bend the knee and throw friends and family away for a little money or even less, social media status.

Kid was pretty young and apparently had a pretty poor role model. Still doesn't make it any better. I don't understand it or that level of evil. I probably never will.

 

[HVACTeacher]

So much undiagnosed mental health issues or struggles out there coupled with the fact that we've been collectively traumatized again and again.
The hopelessness with a lot of today's youth is also quite sad. They don't feel as if there is an obtainable future out there for them and I don't really blame them.
Easy money, gambling, cheating, breaking the law, etc is heavily glorified.
Unfortunately there is a percentage of people who could give a damn about hard work or contributing to society.
I'm seeing those numbers personally around 10% out of every class, 90% of them understand there is still something out there if you want it and work hard enough.
I use the phrase "hungriest dog at the bowl".
But the opportunities are definitely harder to come by then my memory serves what it was like in the past. The privilege a lot of us experienced has been eroded over time.
And couple that with the unfortunate reality for you folks south of the border; you're also a wash in weapons which makes this acts of violence much easier to perpetuate.
I am not sure how to fix the worlds problems, but I try to do what I can one group at a time.
Stay safe everyone

 

[HenryCrawllins]

At the risk of being the odd man out here, It's important to mention that this propaganda cuts both ways. I'm a socialist, as in literal card carrying member of the DSA. I also live a life that contains mostly conservative coded aspects: I'm in the trades, and spend my free time woodworking, playing with tiny trucks, playing with full sized sports cars, listening to very loud and aggressive music, skateboarding, and so on. I'm also someone who takes every opportunity to study politics, both sides, main stream, and alt media, anything I can consume to deepen my understanding of the system in which we all live.

Without getting too into the weeds, this nonsense that keeps happening at an accelerating rate is largely fueled by that propaganda. Though I mentioned that it cuts both ways, it originates from from a common place. Call it the rich, call it those in power, call it the establishment. The point is, it doesn't originate with us. I take every opportunity to talk politics, and one thing that I've noticed is that I have more rewarding conversations with conservatives, libertarians, and other socialists than I do with liberals. Not to cast out liberal individuals from the conversation, but there's a certain mindset that understands the detriment of extreme power imbalance in our society. Point being, it's not your neighbor that holds that power over your head. Instead, it's a concentrated number of people who would like you to believe that it is, and so will direct you to your neighbor so you don't turn your focus their direction.

Greatscott, I'm really sorry that you and your community have to deal with this tragedy.

Timmahh, I'm always happy to talk politics, especially regarding how real world socialists (not the propagandized version) actually think and act.

Deerhurst, I never throw friends and family away, and would value the opportunity to discuss the roots of evil with a new friend.

HVACTeacher, I think you're spot on about the diminishing of opportunities, increase in desperation, and trauma. Also, maybe you have a place to crash if I need to flee the country, haha???

Best simple piece of advice that I try to internalize is a quote by one of my favorite contemporary political minds, Michael Brooks - "Be ruthless with systems, be kind to people".

 

[Deerhurst]

I'm not gonna lie, I am very conservative leaning. These days people would probably call me hard right or extreme right. Not long ago I was considered pretty middle of the road. Things have been changing.

I do completely agree that there is propaganda in all directions. Propaganda is a fun word. I enjoy when it is used by companies to refer to their advertising as Magpul has done in the past. I feel like that puts things into perspective quite well.

People are currently very divided. As a nation we were once united. I see lots of people trying to point political fingers over this. The media, naturally, is doing their best to make it worse and turn everything political.

It's just a shitty thing to happen. I hear there is a 3rd firefighter in rough shape. I hope he pulls through.

 

[Gula]

Rest in peace for the fallen!

 

[JatoTheRipper]

Way too many gullible people that will believe whatever they hear becuz the Boobtube said it. Or some other set of flappin lips with all manner of conflicts of interest, but they keep on going even though reality is there, far to many refuse to take off their blinders and look.

I lost a LOT of faith during the RONA. SO MANY I thought would stand up to the crap that was going on just quit flappin their lips and sat down and let it happen. I was rather disgusted to see here in America.

Particularly within my own Elder Gen X Generation. We were in Elementary during NAM, We KNEW and were taught what propaganda was and yes, were we're also propagandized in many respects, and it followed many of us through HS. That said, I watched the change in public education follow me right through school just a few grades down from me, the subtle changes being put in place.

We need to be more vocal and proactive in pointing out the Propaganda, because insanity like you posted isn't going to stop anytime soon. Millions have the Mind Virus of Socialism (aka Communism) and with Radical Socialists, Violence is all they are taught to know 2nd only to Hatred of those that don't think like they do.

And they can't think so... We get fucked up shit like this happening.

The only other thing that popped into my head is woman problems, that being someones wife is sleeping with someone elses firefighter.... Which, as sad as it is to say, would be preferable to the former option in times like this.

How the hell are you going to bring COVID, a real disease that killed 1.2 MILLION people in the US alone, into a discussion about some deranged fuck? Take off the tinfoil hat. I'm not sure if you realize it or not, but what you just typed is propaganda. Just because COVID didn't affect you doesn't mean it isn't real. It killed my healthy, 37-year-old girlfriend who had no preexisting conditions. I'm so tired of people trying to claim COVID wasn't real, that it was just the flu, that masks are "face diapers" or whatever other ignorant shit you want to regurgitate. These people sound so ******* stupid. And imagine a grown man, past middle-age, being afraid of a little ******* shot. Meanwhile so many of these same pussies afraid of a shot are smoking cigarettes and/or getting high with their drug of choice. The hypocrisy is ******* laughable.

If any of you want to start spreading some false information, then I'll happily put you in timeout.

 

[Deerhurst]

Wow. Hit a nerve there.

Don't worry, I'll never forgive or forget those that pushed that narrative and political bullshit and killed my friends.

You, the moderator, are the one that has turned this into a China flu discussion. You are the one that needs a timeout. you need to take a step back and take a chill pill. Your actions reflect poorly on you and the site you moderate. You need to take a step back and relax.

You have strong feelings for the subject but this thread, likely this forum as well, is NOT the place for it. You lost one person close to you. It sucks. It really does. You are not the only one that lost someone. One of my best friends got sick, recovered and had pneumonia as a result. Completely treatable. Hospital refused to treat him because he didn't have "X" illness. He died from their refusal to treat. Another friend couldn't take the constant BS from every side and blew his brains all over the wall for us to find. I got to watch people waste away from sudden and aggressive cancers. A coworker almost died in the parking lot from a massive blood clot a few days after his shot. If we were much later we would have only found his body. Another friend of mine now has severe cardiac issues that mysteriously manifested a few days after one dose of his shot. We thought he was going to die as well. My boss in his late 30s now has cardiac issues with no family history of such that mysteriously manifested during that time. That's just the "exciting" ones. These are not false information for you to "fact check" with impunity. These are experiences in my life that have shaped my views of things.


Step back. Take a chill pill. You have lost an important person in your life. You are not alone. If you need help, please get it. If you need someone to talk to, PM me.


As I said before, we as a society are very divided. Unfortunately I think that has been done by design. The way to make that worse is to go on a verbal rampage calling anyone that doesn't agree with you names. The more profanity laden the less anyone actually cares or payes attention. This is a great example of the division. I had hoped I'd never see it on RCC as it is more of a DU/Reddit or ARF type trait.


For the topic we actually care about;


Anyone heard anything on the 3rd firefighter? Will he make it?

I heard there was a MASSIVE turnout for support for the firefighters, LEOs and their families. Awesome! You guys rock!

 

[JatoTheRipper]

Wow. Hit a nerve there.

Don't worry, I'll never forgive or forget those that pushed that narrative and political bullshit and killed my friends.

You, the moderator, are the one that has turned this into a China flu discussion. You are the one that needs a timeout. you need to take a step back and take a chill pill. Your actions reflect poorly on you and the site you moderate. You need to take a step back and relax.

You have strong feelings for the subject but this thread, likely this forum as well, is NOT the place for it. You lost one person close to you. It sucks. It really does. You are not the only one that lost someone. One of my best friends got sick, recovered and had pneumonia as a result. Completely treatable. Hospital refused to treat him because he didn't have "X" illness. He died from their refusal to treat. Another friend couldn't take the constant BS from every side and blew his brains all over the wall for us to find. I got to watch people waste away from sudden and aggressive cancers. A coworker almost died in the parking lot from a massive blood clot a few days after his shot. If we were much later we would have only found his body. Another friend of mine now has severe cardiac issues that mysteriously manifested a few days after one dose of his shot. We thought he was going to die as well. My boss in his late 30s now has cardiac issues with no family history of such that mysteriously manifested during that time. That's just the "exciting" ones. These are not false information for you to "fact check" with impunity. These are experiences in my life that have shaped my views of things.


Step back. Take a chill pill. You have lost an important person in your life. You are not alone. If you need help, please get it. If you need someone to talk to, PM me.


As I said before, we as a society are very divided. Unfortunately I think that has been done by design. The way to make that worse is to go on a verbal rampage calling anyone that doesn't agree with you names. The more profanity laden the less anyone actually cares or payes attention. This is a great example of the division. I had hoped I'd never see it on RCC as it is more of a DU/Reddit or ARF type trait.


For the topic we actually care about;


Anyone heard anything on the 3rd firefighter? Will he make it?

I heard there was a MASSIVE turnout for support for the firefighters, LEOs and their families. Awesome! You guys rock!

Do you really believe this? You say I turned the conversation to COVID, but somebody else mentioned it first. Duh.

Calling a vaccine a narrative or political bullshit is so ignorant and laughable. All shots come with potential side effects, but those involved in creating this vaccine were trying to stop a new disease from turning into a pandemic. Oh and the shot was optional. If you or anybody else says that COVID or the shot was political or propaganda again, you will get to sit for a few days to think about it.

You don't get to tell me what I can or can't say or do within the rules.

 

[ferp420]

quick search says covid deaths .03%

vaccine deaths 37%



how accurate this is i dont know but i don't know 1 person who died from covid but i know personally 3 people killed by the vaccine who were healthy before the shot and my daughters best freind 20 years old when she got the vaccine and has been in and out of the hospital since she cant work she cant fuction she can bearlly take care of her self still to this day

 

[JatoTheRipper]

quick search says covid deaths .03%

vaccine deaths 37%



how accurate this is i dont know but i don't know 1 person who died from covid but i know personally 3 people killed by the vaccine who were healthy before the shot and my daughters best freind 20 years old when she got the vaccine and has been in and out of the hospital since she cant work she cant fuction she can bearlly take care of her self still to this day

Well you get to sit for posting this BS.

 

[HVACTeacher]

My condolences to those who have lost close friends or loved ones. It is dreadfully unfortunate some folks had life altering interactions with either the virus or the purposed cure.

From my personal experience, the poke gave me a crazy allergic reaction. That spring/summer I broke out in hives when the trees came to life, never had allergies before.

The biggest thing for me though was the birth of my son. We lost our fist child in 2018. We got pregnant really early in our IVF journey.
Unfortunately, Oliver was the closest we got to having a child in 5 years. Something wasn't working, either my body or my wife's.

Then we get the stuff, my wife starts having a cycle, the first in twenty years. We magically get pregnant without any effort, we were on pins and needles.

I know what people say, it happens when you stop trying. But no one was on our journey. Me learning how to mix meds and inject my wife in her abdomen. Her having to go to appointments to have things inserted and planted in her.

I have shared our story and other people go, you know what, my wife/daughters body went haywire too, etc

It has impacted us all in some way or another.

Financially, career wise, social and mentally.

What unites us here is tiny trucks and I love them.

Let's try and keep that at the forefront.

We're all humans who share a common interest.
Not enemies.

 

[Mopar man]

Proud pureblood here. Never tested never masked and didn’t take the experimental drug the illegitimate government was pushing. I however do know many healthy people who chose to take it that now have stage 4 cancer and one healthy friend that died from a heart attack. We all had a choice of how to deal with it that’s the beauty of living in this free country.

 

[Greatscott]

So... I don't know what I was actually expecting out of this thread, however I would not have guessed with a thousand guesses it would have devolved into COVID theories and disinformation...

For the record, no, I did not know the two firefighters that were killed, nor the one that was injured. But, this whole senseless thing was at the heart of my community, the fear was felt throughout the area, and the grief. And, this is a heavy 2A community, you have a better chance of finding someone concealed or open carry than someone not. Sadly, given that I work on a Navy base, I am most of the time not carrying. However, contrary to the left-leaning statistics, gun crime is really low here give the guns per capita we have, so when it happens, it really shakes the whole community.

I think, generally, I was looking for a more broad response on why crazy happens. I can understand it better, but certainly not condone it if the men that were shot were all banging the shooter's significant other. The shooter was trying to become a woodland firefighter, and there is a theory that he was rejected. If that were true, those guys that were shot had nothing to do with that...

Dunno... crazy happens, and it seems like people can justify crazy because they are pissed at the world. At 20 years old, that kid truly had his entire life ahead of him, but seems like one minor speed bump in his plans sent him over the edge. In high school I was a college football prospect, I had several schools talking to me, and it is really all I had focus on, or all I wanted to do. During a game my senior year I hyperextended my left knee, nothing terrible, but it got the sports doc looking at my knees. Four second opinions later it was clear, if I played football beyond high school I would permanently be on crutches by my junior year of college. I was devastated, and had no clue as to what I should do. But, perhaps I had something the shooter didn't, good mentors, and good role models, and good people I trusted, and they helped me see that my like at 18 wasn't over (yes, I was 18 during my senior year), and I did have my whole life ahead of me. But, even without that support, I don't think I would have shot up a doctor's office because they told me I couldn't play football...

Again... WTF is wrong with people?

 

[JatoTheRipper]

Proud pureblood here. Never tested never masked and didn’t take the experimental drug the illegitimate government was pushing. I however do know many healthy people who chose to take it that now have stage 4 cancer and one healthy friend that died from a heart attack. We all had a choice of how to deal with it that’s the beauty of living in this free country.

That doesn't make you a "pureblood". Refusing to wear a mask also does not make you cool. I saw one of you tough guys scream at a teenage Walmart greeter. The girl nicely said, please wear a mask. This big man got in her face and screamed some nonsense about not wearing a mask. He was such a bad ass...not. This is why countries like Japan and China have leapt over us and will continue to do so. These "too tough for a mask" people procreate. It's no wonder that the tide has changed and more rural American children are on public assistance than urban children...

Cancer and heart attacks happen daily among people that have and have not taken the shot.

So... I don't know what I was actually expecting out of this thread, however I would not have guessed with a thousand guesses it would have devolved into COVID theories and disinformation...

For the record, no, I did not know the two firefighters that were killed, nor the one that was injured. But, this whole senseless thing was at the heart of my community, the fear was felt throughout the area, and the grief. And, this is a heavy 2A community, you have a better chance of finding someone concealed or open carry than someone not. Sadly, given that I work on a Navy base, I am most of the time not carrying. However, contrary to the left-leaning statistics, gun crime is really low here give the guns per capita we have, so when it happens, it really shakes the whole community.

I think, generally, I was looking for a more broad response on why crazy happens. I can understand it better, but certainly not condone it if the men that were shot were all banging the shooter's significant other. The shooter was trying to become a woodland firefighter, and there is a theory that he was rejected. If that were true, those guys that were shot had nothing to do with that...

Dunno... crazy happens, and it seems like people can justify crazy because they are pissed at the world. At 20 years old, that kid truly had his entire life ahead of him, but seems like one minor speed bump in his plans sent him over the edge. In high school I was a college football prospect, I had several schools talking to me, and it is really all I had focus on, or all I wanted to do. During a game my senior year I hyperextended my left knee, nothing terrible, but it got the sports doc looking at my knees. Four second opinions later it was clear, if I played football beyond high school I would permanently be on crutches by my junior year of college. I was devastated, and had no clue as to what I should do. But, perhaps I had something the shooter didn't, good mentors, and good role models, and good people I trusted, and they helped me see that my like at 18 wasn't over (yes, I was 18 during my senior year), and I did have my whole life ahead of me. But, even without that support, I don't think I would have shot up a doctor's office because they told me I couldn't play football...

Again... WTF is wrong with people?

It is a shame. We don't put these nutjobs where they belong - in prison. We, as a society, are too hellbent on trying to make a safespace for everybody and in doing so, the country is more dangerous. Not everybody is rehabilitatable.

I think people that shoot others and/or shoot themselves have a mental defect that others do not. It takes a certain switch to be flipped to get into a headspace where you can go against all your natural fight or flight instincts and kill yourself.

This thread says a lot about...WTF is wrong with people?!

 

[HVACTeacher]

Again, mental health issues, depression, abuse, neglect, substance abuse, etc etc. I could go on and on.

It is hard for people who do not suffer from any of these things to understand why someone can lose all hope, feeling or better judgement.

Until you are there, struggling, or standing on the top of a ten story building look down at the ground, you will never know why some people jump, or pull the trigger.

We have far more things in this world to divide us, poison us, dumb us down or numb us then we do unite us.

Our countries over the years have been reduced to basically consumers and financial services for the world.

No longer are we these great nations who build the world's things. We buy the world's things, gamble with their money (speculation) and here in Canada, hope our housing bubble that has grown most people's wealth (including my own) doesn't burst. Along with the auto loan bubble that looks a lot like the crash of '08, we're in big trouble.

I've been watching a geo politics class that Chinese high school students are being taught, I thought it was University level at first. It's an example of how much more educated other youths of the world are becoming.
They have a better grasp or understanding of our situation than most North Americans.

Unfortunately it just looks like we continue to go down instead of climbing out of this spiral.

 

[RudyF6]

This is bullshit on both sides.
Disappointed as this forum has never been this way in the short time I've been here.
I don't do facebook because of crap like this.
I go to forums specific to what I'm looking for.
I do so for enjoyment, not conflict.
Most forums I frequent don't allow political crap.
When forums devolve into political arguments I don't stay.
Fuck this.
How do I delete my account?

 

[1BadJeepBruiser]

This is bullshit on both sides.
Disappointed as this forum has never been this way in the short time I've been here.
I don't do facebook because of crap like this.
I go to forums specific to what I'm looking for.
I do so for enjoyment, not conflict.
Most forums I frequent don't allow political crap.
When forums devolve into political arguments I don't stay.
Fuck this.
How do I delete my account?

We dont delete accounts but if your unhappy with the site simply log out and don't come back....The internet isnt that hard...

 

[RudyF6]

Really?
OK, bye.