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Old 02-17-2017, 03:23 AM   #2021
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2s on 3400kv 4 pole hobbyWing sc8 120A
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Old 03-02-2017, 02:11 PM   #2022
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This is my setup for crawling.

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Old 03-18-2017, 02:23 PM   #2023
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Just picked up a used Wraith slider.

I happen to have a Holmes BLE and a Tekin redline17.5 sensored....

Will this work on 3s I'm assuming stock trans gears, I run the HD bevel gears stock front UD rear.
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Old 03-18-2017, 03:24 PM   #2024
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It will work...i ran a mmp and the gen 1 tekin redline 17.5 on 3s power in my 1.9 wraith without issue, i did end up dropping the pinion down a couple teeth in the long run
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Old 03-18-2017, 04:43 PM   #2025
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I'm looking at running a set of 2.2's, I've run that combo on my R1 without issues


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Old 03-29-2017, 05:52 AM   #2026
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Originally posted by Harley on page 1 ( If so then you likely need to build everything as strong as possible. I have gone this route personally. My suggestion is the 56t Gen3 metal spur and slipper setup from Robinson racing. To run this setup you will also need to buy a Traxxas slipper rebuild kit, all you will use from this kit is a black spring and a lock nut though. )

Does anyone know which Traxxas slipper rebuild kit, should I run on my SuperShafty top shaft with 56T Gen2 metal spur? Please let me know the part numbers. Thank you
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Old 05-08-2017, 06:19 PM   #2027
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Two words to remember....
Puller Pro.
I loved my Tekin 17.5, but this motor running through the Holmes BLE is a Monster!
Simply put, keep the roc412 at home when this motor is out. Fits perfectly no trimming, running through a bombproof trans with the RR slipper and 32p
The Super Shafty beefy top shaft came complete with nut and spring and the RR slash 2wd gen 3 slid on




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Old 05-28-2017, 07:51 PM   #2028
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Two words to remember....
Puller Pro.
I loved my Tekin 17.5, but this motor running through the Holmes BLE is a Monster!
Simply put, keep the roc412 at home when this motor is out. Fits perfectly no trimming, running through a bombproof trans with the RR slipper and 32p
The Super Shafty beefy top shaft came complete with nut and spring and the RR slash 2wd gen 3 slid on




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What do you have that geared at?

I just fried another motor in my Wraith and looking for a good combo that will stay cool.

Currently running 4WS and 2.2 Rock Beasts.
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Old 05-28-2017, 08:13 PM   #2029
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56/12
For 4s the 2700 is the way to roll, the 2200 shines on 6s


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Old 07-23-2017, 08:55 AM   #2030
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I'm curious what your thoughts are about gearing in my wraith
hobbywing 1080
power hobby 35t
ebay special axles
2.2 deep woods
currently I'm running 32p 58t spur gear and a 16t 32p pinion which puts my ratio at 3.6....seems to be getting awfully warm.....I mostly do trails and crawling...going to a 14t 32p puts me at 4.2 and a 15t puts me at 3.8.....what do you think?

p.s. running 2s lipos
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Old 07-31-2017, 05:42 PM   #2031
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Two words to remember....
Puller Pro.
I loved my Tekin 17.5, but this motor running through the Holmes BLE is a Monster!
Simply put, keep the roc412 at home when this motor is out. Fits perfectly no trimming, running through a bombproof trans with the RR slipper and 32p
The Super Shafty beefy top shaft came complete with nut and spring and the RR slash 2wd gen 3 slid on




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So you like this one over the Tekin motors? I am not sure which motor was the top of the line at Tekin but it looked like the ROC412 HD. I am getting to purchase my motor and Mamba Max Pro Extreme and was looking at the ROC412... until now
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Old 07-31-2017, 06:41 PM   #2032
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I'm curious what your thoughts are about gearing in my wraith
hobbywing 1080
power hobby 35t
ebay special axles
2.2 deep woods
currently I'm running 32p 58t spur gear and a 16t 32p pinion which puts my ratio at 3.6....seems to be getting awfully warm.....I mostly do trails and crawling...going to a 14t 32p puts me at 4.2 and a 15t puts me at 3.8.....what do you think?

p.s. running 2s lipos
I would drop to a 11t pinion to get the ratio higher which will help keep temps down, also going up to a 3s lipo will help as well. You need to keep the ratio between 5 and 6:1 for the wraith motor to be happy
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Old 07-31-2017, 06:51 PM   #2033
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So you like this one over the Tekin motors? I am not sure which motor was the top of the line at Tekin but it looked like the ROC412 HD. I am getting to purchase my motor and Mamba Max Pro Extreme and was looking at the ROC412... until now


Some prefer the roc in a bit lower KV 3300, others like the Puller Pro in 2700kv. I've geared my 3500 at 10/56 and love it. Great wheelspeed , but can just creep at will.
The new roc is a 550 can, and that is fat..... may need some minor trimming
The Tekin I referred to is a two pole motor, not a torque monster



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Old 07-31-2017, 07:06 PM   #2034
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Some prefer the roc in a bit lower KV 3300, others like the Puller Pro in 2700kv. I've geared my 3500 at 10/56 and love it. Great wheelspeed , but can just creep at will.
The new roc is a 550 can, and that is fat..... may need some minor trimming
The Tekin I referred to is a two pole motor, not a torque monster



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CRAP! I am holding up on what I buy, I do not know what the KV ratings mean or the two polo vs ??? I want to get me a bad ass motor but don't want to drop coin and find out I cannot crawl when I want but I want high end speed when I want it. I currently have Holmes Hobbies 35T motor and the high end speed is not desirable to me. I need a "caddie" for my build
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Old 07-31-2017, 07:28 PM   #2035
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Lower Kv is lower speed, running the same battery.
2 pole vs 4pole is speed vs torque. For crawling on 3s a 4 pole 2700 to 3500 is perfect. Drop Holmes a pm ant they will recommend the proper KV .
My 3500 is geared way down, as it is faster than I need, might be what you want


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Old 08-11-2017, 06:49 PM   #2036
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Puller Pro 3500 in the mail as of this morning
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Old 09-16-2017, 08:52 PM   #2037
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i cant find a metal 84t spur for my spawn anywhere?need help or a link
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Old 10-15-2017, 11:31 AM   #2038
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I didn't see if it were posted anywhere so I'll ask.

Option 1
Will a 32p 64t spur fit using a 10t pinion? I'm planning on running a motor with a 5mm output shaft. So a 10t pinion is as low as they go.

Option 2
Is a steel HR spur I have that's a 61t. I'm pretty sure it'll fit as it fit my Bomber tranny and there were several here using a 60t. But I'll need to drill the slipper plates to bolt it on.

Option 2 is viable and I can make it work right now. Option 1 would get the gearing real low if it'll fit. I have a sensorless 3660 in 2600kV on order and I'd need to order the 10t 5mm pinion. $20 for the can I figured I'd give it a whirl. My other Wraith is doing great with a HW1080 and Traxxas 550. So I thought I'd experiment some with my other one.
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i cant find a metal 84t spur for my spawn anywhere?need help or a link
Why do you want a spur that big? Just select a spur/pinion combo that gets you in the range of that 5.1 up to 6.1 ratio.

I run 32P 57 spur (metal) and 10 tooth pinion. 5.7:1 ratio. (3s LiPo)
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Old 11-02-2017, 01:27 PM   #2040
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The 32p 64tooth Yeti spur will fit. I have it and a 12tooth pinion with a 5mm shaft long can motor. It was a tight fit and I ended up having to trim my gear cover a little bit at the hump over the output shaft.
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