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rob_b 03-01-2014 08:25 AM

Right on! It's a rainy day here in AZ too...

SkaldidDog 03-02-2014 01:17 PM

SkaldidDog's "Buck-Nasty" Trailing Arms
 
Here you go Rob. I'll post all of the pics tomorrow. Time to drive and tune. Dramatic improvement. Sorry but posting from a phone is a pain.

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/...ds/image-8.jpg

J

rob_b 03-02-2014 03:02 PM

Sweet! New upper mount too. Can't wait to see progress picts.

SkaldidDog 03-03-2014 09:11 AM

Re: SkaldidDog's "Buck-Nasty" Wraith
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rob_b (Post 4693081)
Sweet! New upper mount too. Can't wait to see progress picts.

Here you go. This will give some folks a better idea of all of the annoyingly slow steps parts take to make.

Square off block.

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/.../IMG_12611.jpg

Clone stock.

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/.../IMG_12631.jpg

Purty.

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/.../IMG_12641.jpg

Drill.

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/.../IMG_12651.jpg

Tap.

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/.../IMG_12661.jpg


Mill.

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/.../IMG_12701.jpg

X2

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/.../IMG_12711.jpg

Rough cut, drill and mock uppers.

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/.../IMG_12751.jpg

Tune uppers further.

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/.../IMG_12761.jpg

Viola! (yes I skipped some steps).

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/.../IMG_12841.jpg

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/.../IMG_12771.jpg

Need to polish mill the uppers to remove extrusion scar.

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/.../IMG_12781.jpg

Full mush belly at ~1.5".

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/.../IMG_12801.jpg

Full droop belly at ~3"+.

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/.../IMG_12811.jpg

Maybe a little too twisty.

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/.../IMG_12821.jpg

Pre bash.

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/.../IMG_12831.jpg

Post glory-dirt.

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/.../IMG_12861.jpg

Hope this doesn't crash when I submit.

J

sic1to 03-03-2014 09:38 AM

Re: SkaldidDog's "Buck-Nasty" Wraith
 
Very nice custom work! I really like the cms & trailing arm...sweet peice!!!"thumbsup"

rob_b 03-03-2014 10:20 AM

Re: SkaldidDog's "Buck-Nasty" Wraith
 
Nice work there Joel. Sounds like it's time for a rear sway bar"thumbsup"

Calderwood 03-03-2014 10:34 AM

Re: SkaldidDog's "Buck-Nasty" Wraith
 
Cool stuff going on in here. My wraith got way better when I outboarded the rear shocks. You gain spring rate in articulation but not in compression. I bet if you outboard the arms on yours it will tame some of that excess articulation and make it corner a lot better.

SkaldidDog 03-03-2014 12:00 PM

Re: SkaldidDog's "Buck-Nasty" Wraith
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sic1to (Post 4694217)
Very nice custom work! I really like the cms & trailing arm...sweet peice!!!"thumbsup"

Thanks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rob_b (Post 4694283)
Nice work there Joel. Sounds like it's time for a rear sway bar"thumbsup"

I'm still deliberating but it may happen.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calderwood (Post 4694300)
Cool stuff going on in here. My wraith got way better when I outboarded the rear shocks. You gain spring rate in articulation but not in compression. I bet if you outboard the arms on yours it will tame some of that excess articulation and make it corner a lot better.

Thanks Calderwood. By outboard do you mean move the axle mount points outward towards the wheels (spread the links on the axle?

Cheers,

J

Natedog 03-03-2014 01:26 PM

Re: SkaldidDog's "Buck-Nasty" Wraith
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SkaldidDog (Post 4694465)
...Thanks Calderwood. By outboard do you mean move the axle mount points outward towards the wheels (spread the links on the axle?

Cheers,

J

That's how I interpreted it and that's what I'd try.

SkaldidDog 03-03-2014 08:17 PM

Re: SkaldidDog's "Buck-Nasty" Wraith
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Natedog (Post 4694598)
That's how I interpreted it and that's what I'd try.

Hmmmm. Sway bars seem way more complicated and difficult. That's more my style. Decisions, decisions.

J

rob_b 03-03-2014 08:38 PM

I think the word you were looking for was, "cooler".

SkaldidDog 03-04-2014 08:34 AM

Re: SkaldidDog's "Buck-Nasty" Wraith
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rob_b (Post 4695227)
I think the word you were looking for was, "cooler".

That too. MMC order placed. This is gonna be cool........er.

J

ZoSo 03-04-2014 08:45 AM

Re: SkaldidDog's "Buck-Nasty" Wraith
 
looking good Joel ...can't wait to see how she does at the next U4 race.....are you ready?

SkaldidDog 03-04-2014 11:05 AM

Re: SkaldidDog's "Buck-Nasty" Wraith
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ZoSo (Post 4695735)
looking good Joel ...can't wait to see how she does at the next U4 race.....are you ready?

Only if you guys promise to be nice to me and not make fun of my rig, my driving or the clothes my mom picks out for me that day. Oh, and tell that Jake guy to slow down, he's gonna cause me to scratch my truck.

Calderwood 03-04-2014 02:43 PM

Re: SkaldidDog's "Buck-Nasty" Wraith
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SkaldidDog (Post 4694465)
Thanks Calderwood. By outboard do you mean move the axle mount points outward towards the wheels (spread the links on the axle?

Cheers,

J

Yes sir.

SkaldidDog 03-04-2014 09:51 PM

Re: SkaldidDog's "Buck-Nasty" Wraith
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Calderwood (Post 4696199)
Yes sir.

Thanks Chief.

If I can't get the feel I like from a sway bar I'll give it a try.

J

rumnyc 03-05-2014 03:20 AM

Re: SkaldidDog's "Buck-Nasty" Wraith
 
now all we need are some vids of you driving the beast!

SkaldidDog 03-05-2014 08:44 PM

Re: SkaldidDog's "Buck-Nasty" Wraith
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rumnyc (Post 4697010)
now all we need are some vids of you driving the beast!

I need to mill a personal cinematographer and get on that.

J

Frankenwheely 03-05-2014 09:01 PM

Re: SkaldidDog's "Buck-Nasty" Wraith
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SkaldidDog (Post 4698185)
I need to mill a personal cinematographer and get on that.

J

Or just ask me to film.:roll:

SkaldidDog 03-05-2014 10:15 PM

Re: SkaldidDog's "Buck-Nasty" Wraith
 
Good point. I'll gladly accept your kind offer any time you feel like laying down some binary code.

Thanks man!

rumnyc 03-07-2014 04:09 AM

Re: SkaldidDog's "Buck-Nasty" Wraith
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SkaldidDog (Post 4698185)
I need to mill a personal cinematographer and get on that.

J

fabricate a mount for a gopro :)

SkaldidDog 03-08-2014 08:19 PM

Re: SkaldidDog's "Buck-Nasty" Wraith
 
Making progress.

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/...ds/image-9.jpg

rob_b 03-08-2014 09:03 PM

Wow. That's heavy-duty!

New uppers?

SkaldidDog 03-08-2014 10:13 PM

Re: SkaldidDog's "Buck-Nasty" Wraith
 
Getting my sway on.

rob_b 03-08-2014 11:05 PM

I assumed, just thought the two long rods might be new uppers. Interesting things that you do...

SkaldidDog 03-09-2014 08:47 AM

Sway Cool
 
The sway bar arms are Ti and the brackets and bar guides are heavenly75. I was going to make the guides out of Ti but changed my mind. Hopefully I can finish it today.

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/...20F221749F.jpg

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/...F75925726E.jpg

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/...49E4BB2196.jpg

Mounting brackets.

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/...74E0A45267.jpg

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/...5BCB1A6D9D.jpg

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/...FB1E0B668A.jpg

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/...90C885DEED.jpg

Ti rod for the risers that attach the arms to the axle.

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/...4DAA0F0D37.jpg

This is going to be cool...if it works.

polcyn1030 03-09-2014 09:59 AM

Re: SkaldidDog's "Buck-Nasty" Wraith
 
Looks sick! Awesome work

SkaldidDog 03-09-2014 06:16 PM

Sway V1 Done
 
Works well. Still need to put it through its paces. V2 arms drawn. Hope to knock them out this week. Overall I like the performance. I couldn't tap Ti so I cranked out 7075 arms.

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/...5274D1E821.jpg

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/...C862434BD4.jpg

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/...2BA84DC888.jpg

J

SkaldidDog 03-11-2014 08:55 AM

Let's try this again, again...V3 sway bar arms
 
I really didn't like the first iterations of my sway bar arms for several reasons. These suit me better. I'm sure they are overkill (7075) but I'll put them through the paces before putting them on a diet.

I like that they match my shock upper mounts.

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/.../IMG_13161.jpg

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/.../IMG_13171.jpg

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/.../IMG_13181.jpg

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/.../IMG_13211.jpg

The seats are out for the install process. I still haven't driven it properly with a bar...yet. Hope to soon.

J

rob_b 03-11-2014 01:15 PM

I like your packaging!

SkaldidDog 03-12-2014 08:31 AM

Put a rear sway bar on your Wraith now!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rob_b (Post 4705315)
I like your packaging!

Why thanks...I guess:oops:.

Update!

Go buy a rear sway bar for your Wraith here now. You won't regret it. I can not believe how much better the rig handles on fast flat ground and crawling/climbing. It puts down traction so much better. Run the softest springs you can get away with for your ride height and start there. My tires will pay the price...and did yesterday.

Cosmetic weight reduction.

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/.../IMG_13231.jpg

I took 0.050" off of the trailing end of the arms where the links mount. This allowed the top of the links to move inward on the axle and stand vertically. I also shortened the links by 0.1" to parallel the arms with the ground at ride height. Like Erik says, square and straight.

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/.../IMG_13251.jpg

This tire compound is very soft. Good in some cases but not in others. Hence the large material-missing hole from yesterday's run.

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/.../IMG_13261.jpg

Nothing a little bit of a silver Voodoo comp tire can't fix.

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/.../IMG_13281.jpg

J

Natedog 03-12-2014 09:52 AM

Re: Put a rear sway bar on your Wraith now!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rob_b (Post 4705315)
I like your packaging!

:lmao:

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkaldidDog (Post 4706165)
Why thanks...I guess:oops:.

Update!

Go buy a rear sway bar for your Wraith here now. You won't regret it. I can not believe how much better the rig handles on fast flat ground and crawling/climbing. It puts down traction so much better. Run the softest springs you can get away with for your ride height and start there. My tires will pay the price...and did yesterday.

Cosmetic weight reduction.

I took 0.050" off of the trailing end of the arms where the links mount. This allowed the top of the links to move inward on the axle and stand vertically. I also shortened the links by 0.1" to parallel the arms with the ground at ride height. Like Erik says, square and straight.

This tire compound is very soft. Good in some cases but not in others. Hence the large material-missing hole from yesterday's run.

Nothing a little bit of a silver Voodoo comp tire can't fix.

J

Very nice! Bought a rear swaybar, but have not installed it yet...looks good!

Erik D_lux 03-12-2014 11:19 AM

Re: Put a rear sway bar on your Wraith now!
 
Looks great Joel! I appreciate your dedication and love for all aspects of the hobby!

Once people look past the stereotype that a sway bar is for limiting flex they will then be able to use one and tune with it. It will just take time to get people to understand. All you really have to do is run a proper setup for 5 sec and you see a huge gain.

What is the name for that "10 flute countersink" in your picture above?

SkaldidDog 03-12-2014 11:34 AM

Re: Put a rear sway bar on your Wraith now!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Erik D_lux (Post 4706312)
Looks great Joel! I appreciate your dedication and love for all aspects of the hobby!

Once people look past the stereotype that a sway bar is for limiting flex they will then be able to use one and tune with it. It will just take time to get people to understand. All you really have to do is run a proper setup for 5 sec and you see a huge gain.

What is the name for that "10 flute countersink" in your picture above?

Thank you sir for your assistance and for tech that works well and looks good.

I can't remember what it's called. My machinist knowledge is limited to drill bit and end mill. I'll find out for you.

J

Calderwood 03-12-2014 03:03 PM

Re: Put a rear sway bar on your Wraith now!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Erik D_lux (Post 4706312)
What is the name for that "10 flute countersink" in your picture above?

Chamfer mill.

SkaldidDog 03-12-2014 03:26 PM

Re: Put a rear sway bar on your Wraith now!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Calderwood (Post 4706554)
Chamfer mill.

Thank you Sir.

J

Erik D_lux 03-12-2014 06:33 PM

Re: SkaldidDog's "Buck-Nasty" Wraith
 
They dont come cheap.....

Frankenwheely 03-13-2014 12:17 AM

Re: SkaldidDog's "Buck-Nasty" Wraith
 
I love seeing all these gentlemen of great creativity show off their work and they are not sure how they did it."thumbsup" Means I have a chance to be some body in this hobby.:lmao:Keep drilling, milling and hacking boyz."thumbsup"

sic1to 03-13-2014 09:48 AM

Re: SkaldidDog's "Buck-Nasty" Wraith
 
How ya liking the MT claws so far??? I'm looking for a taller tire for just a touch more clearance. I have been running swampers & BFG's which work great...but want taller tire. I see you done a lil cutting here & there is that pattern working well for ya? Ty champ!!!

SkaldidDog 03-13-2014 11:39 AM

Re: SkaldidDog's "Buck-Nasty" Wraith
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sic1to (Post 4707499)
How ya liking the MT claws so far??? I'm looking for a taller tire for just a touch more clearance. I have been running swampers & BFG's which work great...but want taller tire. I see you done a lil cutting here & there is that pattern working well for ya? Ty champ!!!

I picked these up for the height as well. Compound wears very fast. Very soft and very grippy though. My cut pattern improved them a lot but also shortened their lives further. TSLs last a lot longer and work well with the cut pattern I tried. Cut your TSL's and try them before you drop bank on these. You may change your mind. But if you just want tall, get these. You'll like them. I'll run them into the ground...literally. Hope this helps.

J


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