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06-01-2018, 01:59 PM | #602 |
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I've had a couple Promodelers, no real complaints, but in this case I think it might be 2290 and never look back. I had a few bucks set aside for new tires/foams/wheels for this car, which is about the same cost as the 2290. It's like my rc's know exactly how much "play money" I have, and they break parts accordingly.
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06-01-2018, 02:33 PM | #603 |
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Just got my DS3218. Now to figure out which rig to put it in...
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06-01-2018, 06:40 PM | #605 | |
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06-01-2018, 07:05 PM | #606 | |
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06-14-2018, 05:34 PM | #607 |
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Thinking of getting the Reefs 555. anyone used this servo before? would appreciate the feedback.
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06-14-2018, 05:38 PM | #608 |
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06-14-2018, 05:41 PM | #609 |
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06-29-2018, 11:04 PM | #610 |
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I recently found some new info on my favorite cheap servo ( the DS3218 ) and thought I'd post an update. (BTW - I noticed this thread was slipping deeper into the forum - in dire need of a bump, considering how many new "cheap", or "newbie", or even "budget waterproof" servo threads we get...) The oft-discussed DS3218 has been recommended many times for an under $20 servo, you flat CANNOT beat it for the money. I bring it up again because I found a listing that included an exploded view of the internals - so you can see both why it is inexpensive, yet why it works fine for so many people - basically if you are running roughly 4.5" or smaller diameter tires on a typical scaler/trail rig/basher, it is likely to be all you would need. To repeat the product info: For less than $18 (currently), you get (quoted from mfg, of course...) JUST shy of 300oz-in of torque and quicker than .15sec/60deg of speed at 6.8v. Waterproof (hmm... let's say "water-resistant", but we have had people report they ran 'em wet just fine), Metal gears (sure, they're brass - and 1 aluminum) and an aluminum case center for heat dissipation and strength. Let's not forget ya get a perfectly serviceable clamping aluminum servo horn with 2 pre-drilled holes FREE! Actual specs are: Brand: DSSERVO Item: DS3218MG Stall Torque (5V): 19 kg/cm (263.8oz/in) Stall Torque (6.8V): 21.5 kg/cm (298.5 oz/in) Dead band: 3μs Speed : 0.16 sec/60°(5V) / 0.14 sec/60°(6.8V) Operating Voltage: 4.8 ~ 6.8 DC Volts This servo does NOT need to be ordered direct from China, Taiwan, or Hong Kong - there are US warehouses carrying it, do a Google search and you'll be able to get it as fast as 2 days from now - great in an emergency when you just fried your RTR electronics and need a quick fix. *My personal experience - I've been running one of these hard in a Ascender K10 with a BPC heavy-gauge steel transverse full-size LiPo tray & 3400mAh packs, SSD brass knuckles, SSD brass rear axle lockout weights, aluminum beadlock wheels, and it's powered by a HobbyWing 1080 ESC with a Holmes Hobbies TrailMaster 550 21t motor. This isn't a lightweight RC - not when compared to a stock RTR Ascender, it definitely has some heft to it. Unfortunately I have no scale, so I can't tell you exactly what it weighs - but this servo has had no issues with my 4.6" Vaterra TSL Swampers or my newer 4.19" RC4WD Goodyear MT/Rs whatsoever in 7 months. I highly recommend it, and frankly don't understand why any company selling an RTR RC meant for use on the rough stuff doesn't just stick these in their rigs with their own sticker on them. These DS3218 servos are selling for what a RTR stock replacement servo sells for, and the RTR servo is typically rated at about 150oz-in (roughly 9kg), and is noticeably slower in response time, to boot. Here are some pics: |
06-29-2018, 11:34 PM | #611 |
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I found my ds3218 for $15. Sure I had to wait 10 days for it to show (today) but wasn't in a hurry since I'm still building. Nice to know for $3 more I can get it in the us if need be.
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06-30-2018, 04:38 AM | #612 |
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Ordered a couple DS3218s from China off aliexpress. $12.30 if you don't mind waiting.
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06-30-2018, 02:19 PM | #613 |
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Aluminum gears are a complete waste of money. Most grades of aluminum are too weak to handle the high torque inflicted on them by rock crawling. Aluminum is a galling metal too, so under high pressure the gear teeth will stick together and start tearing bits of metal off each other. Anodizing the aluminum stops this from happening until the anodizing wears off, but the gears shown in the pictures above are obviously not anodized. At the very least, the gears should be made of brass; steel is obviously best for strength, and titanium is best for strength and weight, if weight is something you care about. Titanium is a galling metal like aluminum is, but it's so much harder that the galling effect isn't noticeable as long as the gear teeth are lubricated.
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06-30-2018, 02:24 PM | #614 | |
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06-30-2018, 04:32 PM | #615 |
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06-30-2018, 06:09 PM | #618 | |
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06-30-2018, 10:29 PM | #619 | |
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But seriously, if your gears are galling from metal on metal that means your lube is horrible. You can have the finest gears in your real car's transmission, but with a cheap lube causing metal-on-metal wear it won't last a day either. Just watch Roadkill and see how often they kill "legendary" motors/trans/diffs by simply running them dry. | |
06-30-2018, 11:21 PM | #620 | |
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Your post states "the gears shown above" - but this thread is many pages long... The "El Cheapo but great for the money" DS3218 is mostly brass with what appear to be the two aluminum gears only touching brass gears, shouldn't be a worry there. They are even labelled as such, and contact with brass is likely to reduce any potential galling. BTW - not all anodizing is "matte" in finish - and the product literature for the DS3218 does state: Features: - High-precision metal gears with hard anodizing - CNC aluminium middle Shell - waterproof rubber seals screws So, stating "obviously" not anodized is untrue - they quite likely may be. Even if they are not, (I don't believe all mfg claims - see my comments elsewhere on titanium servo gears!) somehow mine is still very tight and precise in use after 7 months of abuse... Once more - it's less than $18 (a fair amount less, if you are willing to wait on your order rather than get it shipped in 2 days) - I'm obviously not comparing it to "name brand" servos. Unless we're talking about "name brand" RTR and budget servos costing nearly triple as much - in which case its specs and end user experience are handily beating many of them much of the time. I tried to make the post clear as to when it's "the servo to get" and am unsure if you understood my point - as I can't tell what servo you are referring to. I'm certainly not throwing it into my Bomber builds... It's simply (in my humble opinion) the best RTR replacement servo out there, for the money - even if you've done some mods to your rig, and as long as you're not running really large diameter tires (over 4.6" or so) - and it's probably not going to last you if you've stuck a half-pound of lead weights to each of your front wheels and are using your servo to work your comp rig out of a hardcore bind by wagging the ass end................................ (I have a ProModeler 470 and a Holmes SHV500 for use in my 2.2" rigs, but I do believe my Ascender will chug along with this $17.99 thing until it pops, and as long as I can find more of them at the dozens of listings that are selling them - I will quite likely buy another - or two!) Last edited by durok; 06-30-2018 at 11:24 PM. | |
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