Motor upgrades for the MRC!

[Frozenroses]

Originally Posted by neiloid1

Looks to be 16cm long and 7.5cm wide, not sure where you'd be able to fit that in your MRC

http://www.cheapbatterypacks.com/?ap...uid=C1AE3BG841

This is more the sort of thing you may want to look at - tiny and light. Maybe a bigger pack for longer run times, which are in stock on the CBP site.

Hope this helps.

I forgot to check the dimensions.. :p

Originally Posted by cbr6fs

They are hand wound by the guy on this forum that goes by the name of rock hard (Paul).

There is a thread here.
crawler mafia handwound 1.9 comp motors


I honestly cannot recommend his motors and service highly enough




As Neil says wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy to big.

Get yourself some of these ordered.
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...dProduct=11898

They fit great on the MRC, have more kick than you'd ever need, 5C charge rate for the odd time when your in a hurry, cheap and great.

Hobbyking have them on backorder right now, but if you search ebay you'll find plenty of other sellers, they won't be as cheap mind.




Cheers
Mark

Wooow, they are like 6 dollar each?!? That is like 4,5 euros for one batt?! And A losi mrc doesn't consume that much. And I'll contact rock hard (Paul) for the motor.

Thanks for the further help guys!! ^^

[Frozenroses]

Ok, so this is the desired wheel speed I want. This MRC runs a Crawler Mafia motor (16t).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amxmsj_bwr8

I will buy the Torquemaster Mini 22t first and if it doesn't give me the desired wheel speed and torque I want, I'll probably will switch to this little guy, the crawler mafia motor.

[cbr6fs]

Originally Posted by Frozenroses

Ok, so this is the desired wheel speed I want. This MRC runs a Crawler Mafia motor (16t).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amxmsj_bwr8

I will buy the Torquemaster Mini 22t first and if it doesn't give me the desired wheel speed and torque I want, I'll probably will switch to this little guy, the crawler mafia motor.

That's my MRC

I have geared down a fair bit since then as up on the rocks that much speed proved to be more of a problem than a help, but now i've geared down the car is as smooth as a silk.

[kronik]

jump on ebay- order your self the mini slider motor!
i did this in my mrc. it cut the run time down some but it was worth it!!!!
http://cgi.ebay.com/LOSI-LOSB1216-RX...item5adce73a48
pinion set
http://cgi.ebay.com/LOSI-LOSB1260-PI...item5adc2d4161

and this is the result
the rover is mine-the dodge has a stock mrc motor!

[rock hard]

Every motor serves its purpose,the mini slider motor is a great throw away motor. Its cheap enough you can buy several,and when its trash,your not out anything.For bashing around,playing,its a great choice.
It will not have enough hold to satisfy most competitors.

The holmes 22t is a great choice for your scaler.
it has adjustablle timing,rebuildable,and you will have a good drag brake.


The video of my motor you have there is deccieving.
Its on a slick floor,and its not the way they are intended to be ran.

This video is a prime example of what my motors are built for.
http://vimeo.com/16180013

They are built to give you the speed,torque and brake you desire,so you can push your limits.

[Frozenroses]

Originally Posted by kronik

jump on ebay- order your self the mini slider motor!
i did this in my mrc. it cut the run time down some but it was worth it!!!!
http://cgi.ebay.com/LOSI-LOSB1216-RX...item5adce73a48
pinion set
http://cgi.ebay.com/LOSI-LOSB1260-PI...item5adc2d4161

and this is the result
the rover is mine-the dodge has a stock mrc motor!

Originally Posted by rock hard

Every motor serves its purpose,the mini slider motor is a great throw away motor. Its cheap enough you can buy several,and when its trash,your not out anything.For bashing around,playing,its a great choice.
It will not have enough hold to satisfy most competitors.

The holmes 22t is a great choice for your scaler.
it has adjustablle timing,rebuildable,and you will have a good drag brake.


The video of my motor you have there is deccieving.
Its on a slick floor,and its not the way they are intended to be ran.

This video is a prime example of what my motors are built for.
http://vimeo.com/16180013

They are built to give you the speed,torque and brake you desire,so you can push your limits.

Hey guys! I bumped on the 370 frenzy motor. Here is the result:

This video shows how precise it can be driven.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Qm__VUb0nY

The following 3 videos show the torque and wheel speed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jMm0...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3qK3...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUqch...eature=related

I'm pretty astonished by this motor. And it's the cheapest of all. It costs me 15 dollar (incl. shipment). Someone who can give me feedback about this motor?

Greetings!

I'll make a topic about all the possible motors that can be installed in the MRC. Someone who knows how you can make it a sticky thread? Probably need to talk to an administrator?..

[rock hard]

Great motor for bashiing,friendly crawling IMO
the slider,frenzy,insane,assotiated super 370,ect are all cheap,fast,and great for having fun with.
They however will not hold a candle to a quality motor
when it comes to drag brake and torque.

The holmes 22t,33t
assotiated mini mod in 17,19t
assotiated mini stump puller
HPI's rs4 modified
trinity mini cobalts

these motors will all out perform a lower grade motor in competition.
So its really a matter of what your intentions are.
If you really want to bash/crawl then anything will work really
If you want to comp,then you will be better served by a better motor.

[rock hard]

Originally Posted by Frozenroses

Hey guys! I bumped on the 370 frenzy motor. Here is the result:

This video shows how precise it can be driven.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Qm__VUb0nY

\In this video,the rock you are climbing in the end,is that close to your home?

Try not climbing all the way up,climb up a few inches and stop,repeat,repeat till you get all the way up. Thats where the cheaper motors lack,they dont have good enough brake to hold consistantly.especially after a dozen or so packs.

They are not rebuildable,so you cant open them up and clean the comm.
All you can do is hit then with motor spray,or dunk em in water.

[rock hard]

In this video at about 3min you'll see the kind of brake I expect from a motor.
at about 2 min you'll see what I consider good low end control

all the brushed motors I mentioned can handle these lines,the cheaper motors on the same lines,even with a good esc will not be as consistant.
and that lack of consistancy isnt a big deal if your just out having fun.
But if you comp,that consistancy is a very big deal.Without it,you cant have faith in what the truck will and will not do in a pinch.

[dockman]

Originally Posted by rock hard

assotiated mini stump puller

Don't want to seem like I am being picky but it is a Reedy mini stump puller. Hate for someone new to run around looking for a motor that does not exist.

[rock hard]

I always call it assotiated,cuz reedy is basically assotiated IMO
The motor though is a reedy

http://www.losipartshouse.com/servle...9-Stump/Detail

Associated Reedy SP19 Stump Puller Modified Motor
Put some big-time, stump-pulling horsepower into your micro with the Reedy SP19 Stump Puller motor. The extreme-torque SP19 modified motor with a revamped label features precision ball bearings and replaceable brushes, all shrunk down to the popular 280 size to fit most 1:18 micros, including Associated's 18T, 18B, and 18MT

[kronik]

its a scale zuki! not a comp crawler. hes probably not gonna be doing comp lines in his scaler.
that being said, my mrc scaler was/is used for having fun, i can crawl just fine and i got the wheel speed to have some extra fun when needed.
and at 13 bucks for the motor, i can run it through what ever the hell i want and if the motor seizes, im only out 13 bucks. i usually order 2 at a time. the first one lasts a good 4 to 6 months. then i switch it out and order 2 more.
my mrc has seen ALOT of snow, water, and an extreme amout of mud! i have only seized 3 motors in it, one being the stock motor. so im on my 3rd mini slider motor in over 2 and a half years.

again- for a comp crawler... ya, spend the extra motor for a good motor.

for a scaler- save your money, buy the 13 dollar slider motor and have fun.

if its gonna get muddy and wet chances are you will have troubles with the motor eventually. if you are not doing comp lines then you DONT need an expensive comp motor.

[Frozenroses]

Originally Posted by rock hard

In this video at about 3min you'll see the kind of brake I expect from a motor.
at about 2 min you'll see what I consider good low end control

all the brushed motors I mentioned can handle these lines,the cheaper motors on the same lines,even with a good esc will not be as consistant.
and that lack of consistancy isnt a big deal if your just out having fun.
But if you comp,that consistancy is a very big deal.Without it,you cant have faith in what the truck will and will not do in a pinch.

Rock Hard, thanks for the help, you gave a lot of information, big appreciate!

Originally Posted by dockman

Don't want to seem like I am being picky but it is a Reedy mini stump puller. Hate for someone new to run around looking for a motor that does not exist.

Thanks for helping the noobies out on the forum.

Originally Posted by kronik

its a scale zuki! not a comp crawler. hes probably not gonna be doing comp lines in his scaler.
that being said, my mrc scaler was/is used for having fun, i can crawl just fine and i got the wheel speed to have some extra fun when needed.
and at 13 bucks for the motor, i can run it through what ever the hell i want and if the motor seizes, im only out 13 bucks. i usually order 2 at a time. the first one lasts a good 4 to 6 months. then i switch it out and order 2 more.
my mrc has seen ALOT of snow, water, and an extreme amout of mud! i have only seized 3 motors in it, one being the stock motor. so im on my 3rd mini slider motor in over 2 and a half years.

again- for a comp crawler... ya, spend the extra motor for a good motor.

for a scaler- save your money, buy the 13 dollar slider motor and have fun.

if its gonna get muddy and wet chances are you will have troubles with the motor eventually. if you are not doing comp lines then you DONT need an expensive comp motor.

As you said, It's a scaler. It has seen a lot of dirt and it will see a lot of dirt in the future too. ;) So I'll probably try the Frenzy 370. In the future I will probably buy a Losi MRC again to make it some kind of comp crawler next to my Suzi..

This thread was perfect to find enough options for my motor swap! And I hope this will help other people for the choice of their motor. Thanks for your help guys on this thread!

Oh yeah, I may be from Belgium but half of my Family is living in America, most of them in Texas. Love it there!

[rock hard]

Hmm.I think that samy is the nicest ine I have seen,it would only add to its
appeal and performance to have a mini torquemaster in it

But really it doesnt matter is its a scaler,I had a scaler once,I still prefer it to stay put when on a steep slope.A scaler is typically heavier than a comp rig,making a good drak brake even more inprtant if you want it to hold.

What is true for axial based scalers,is also true for mrc based scaler.
Brake is nice to have.

Also the fact that is does plan to get used in water and mud is a HUGE reason
to get a motor you can open up and really clean

[Frozenroses]

Originally Posted by rock hard

Hmm.I think that samy is the nicest ine I have seen,it would only add to its
appeal and performance to have a mini torquemaster in it

But really it doesnt matter is its a scaler,I had a scaler once,I still prefer it to stay put when on a steep slope.A scaler is typically heavier than a comp rig,making a good drak brake even more inprtant if you want it to hold.

What is true for axial based scalers,is also true for mrc based scaler.
Brake is nice to have.

Also the fact that is does plan to get used in water and mud is a HUGE reason
to get a motor you can open up and really clean

Can you close a brushed motor? Or does it need to be open? Maybe I could try to close it for some rides, open it and run it to clean it the next few rides.

[Frozenroses]

Hey guys! Hope you guys sticked to this thread. I received the Frenzy 370 motor. Guess what, needed to work on the motor mounting plate. The holes where not the same so that was a bit surprising and the pinion didn't fit right on the motor, needed to change that too. Now, on flat land it has almost double wheel speed, once off road it can't get up a hill decently. So I decided to get the Holmes 22t or 33t. And yes, I'm staying Nimh, the scaler does weigh a lot more then stock (chassis and stuff added to make it that scale). So I guess I better get the 35T to still have enough torque? If i would keep the frenzy motor I'm quite sure if I would change the pinions it still would struggle to make it up a hill. About the 22t, would that motor be good too or just to be sure 35t? It isn't called 'torque'master for nothing is it? So my test failed, I learned from my mistake so I want a good motor now that does get this scaler up a hill. But it was worth the 10 bucks.

But i'm sure if you're running a stock MRC with only some weights added in the front wheels this Frenzy motor is good.

[rock hard]

I dont see why the 22t wont do ya,if your gonna stick with stick packs.
you maynot get enough speed from the 33t.

By the way,is you get a hr 62t spur,you can drop down to a 11t pinion.
That will increase your torque considerably

[Frozenroses]

Originally Posted by rock hard

I dont see why the 22t wont do ya,if your gonna stick with stick packs.
you maynot get enough speed from the 33t.

By the way,is you get a hr 62t spur,you can drop down to a 11t pinion.
That will increase your torque considerably

So just order these pinions and stay with the old motor I have now? Or order the 22t right away?

[rock hard]

Originally Posted by Frozenroses

So just order these pinions and stay with the old motor I have now? Or order the 22t right away?

If it was me,I would order the motor for sure,but I would also
order a hr 62t spur,and a losi pinion pack,it will come with 4 pinions.

9-12 I think

[Frozenroses]

Originally Posted by rock hard

If it was me,I would order the motor for sure,but I would also
order a hr 62t spur,and a losi pinion pack,it will come with 4 pinions.

9-12 I think

Ok, got that, getting them ordered in less then 2 weeks or so. ;)